I recently bought a pair of Assos F1.Uno.Something.Or.'Nother bib shorts and they're no better than my PI's or Castellis. The only thing that separates the Assos from those brands is the stupid price. Luckily I got them pretty cheap, by Assos standards. The Assos came packed in a plastic sleeve that was packed in a cardboard box that was slid into yet another cardboard box. Along with the shorts, and the 2 cardboard boxes, was an owner's manual about the same size as the one that came with my car. Why do you need an owner's manual for a pair of shorts? They're shorts for crying out loud. You put your dogdamn feet through the leg holes and pull 'em up!! Mo-rons. Whatevs, the first page of the owner's manual talked about consumer/commercial waste and how Assos was all about reducing that sort of thing. Umm yeah, then how about getting rid of the owner's manual and at least one of the boxes a single pair of shorts comes packaged in. Banana!! aint nobody's fool and he aint buying nothing else that says Assos on it.