Dirtyhip Posted July 31, 2014 Share #1 Posted July 31, 2014 I need to get more agressive with left turns. My knobbies were more worn on the right side. My husband said "My honey corners harder on the right." The top of the L's on the knobs were gone. Chomped off. HA! Wonder if it cause I am right handed. Dominant right side. I also ride much faster regular compared to goofy. Although, I can ride goofy and land goofy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted July 31, 2014 Share #2 Posted July 31, 2014 i do too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #3 Posted July 31, 2014 our hearts are just left of our centerline, so our balance isn't exactly strait up and down. Everybody leans into a right hander more than a left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 31, 2014 Share #4 Posted July 31, 2014 I am a righty, and I corner way better to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted July 31, 2014 Now, I don't know what to believe. I think Nate is messing with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #6 Posted July 31, 2014 no seriously I learned about this when I was racing This is also why we tend to put our left foot down first when we unclip but you can just look at an anatomy drawing and see for yourself that the human heart is offset to the left side its just weight distribution. You have to lean more to the right to get the same moment of force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted July 31, 2014 no seriously I learned about this when I was racing This is also why we tend to put our left foot down first when we unclip but you can just look at an anatomy drawing and see for yourself that the human heart is offset to the left side its just weight distribution. You have to lean more to the right to get the same moment of force I know where my heart is. I just never realized that our centerline was so off. I do put my left foot down first too. Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #8 Posted July 31, 2014 it doesn't have to be way off the centerline. the heart is full of blood, a liquid your lungs are full of air In RGs case, hot air so its the difference in density of those two organs in your chest that effects your weight distribution on a bike. Since your chest is higher than your center of gravity, you have to lean your chest more to the right to move the same amount of weight that equates to leaning further into a right hand bend its all strait physics, so you don't even need to believe me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted July 31, 2014 Share #9 Posted July 31, 2014 Nate, if thats the case, your liver, a denser, heavier, higher-than-center organ abides on the right side. Wouldn't that balance things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted July 31, 2014 Share #10 Posted July 31, 2014 Nate, if thats the case, your liver, a denser, heavier, higher-than-center organ abides on the right side. Wouldn't that balance things out. my pecker is bigger, so depending on which side it's on for a given day, that's the side I corner the hardest on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted July 31, 2014 Share #11 Posted July 31, 2014 my pecker is bigger, so depending on which side it's on for a given day, that's the side I corner the hardest on. Hahahahaha!!!! Put it in the right and get it hard so it's full of blood to balance out Nate's theory... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted July 31, 2014 Share #12 Posted July 31, 2014 our hearts are just left of our centerline, so our balance isn't exactly strait up and down. Everybody leans into a right hander more than a left You made this crap up, admit it. Balance it determined mostly from our inner ears, and they are symmetrical. It has nothing to do with organ placement. Do people with 1 arm fall over regularly? As for putting your left foot down, roads are crowned for water drainage and usually the right side is lower making the left side more accessible. Also, it help prevent getting a cat5 tattoo on your right leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted July 31, 2014 Share #13 Posted July 31, 2014 I'm laughing my azz off!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted July 31, 2014 Share #14 Posted July 31, 2014 Nate, you're full of crap. If you know anything about the scales that chiropractors and PTs use to measure your weight distribution you would quickly realize that your balance and weight distribution have nothing to do with the placement of your heart. I am much more comfortable cornering to the right than I am to the left but it does;t have anything to do with my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #15 Posted July 31, 2014 Hey, I'm saying that the reason we lean in to a right hander more than a left is the same reason you put your left foot down first You clowns say what you want, but I've forgotten more about cycling than most of you jokers ever knew, and that's a fact a DOCUMENTED fact (where's my two fingers up emoticon?) what you assholes are forgetting is how your body is oriented over your bike when you are riding. Your abdomen is lower and closer to your center of gravity. How your weight is distributed when you are on standing on the doctors scale doesn't matter either get yourself some rollers and figure it out for yourselves I learned this from somebody who I know knows what he's talking about, so there you go. I'm just passing along something I was told that actually helped me take a corner at speed I'm just trying to help DH understand why she is leaning more into right hand corners so fuck you beer sodden bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted July 31, 2014 Share #16 Posted July 31, 2014 Everybody leans into a right hander more than a left Oh really?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destination Posted July 31, 2014 Share #17 Posted July 31, 2014 This is also why we tend to put our left foot down first when we unclip When I'm stopping, more often than not, I'll put down my right foot first. I always clip in on the left first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted July 31, 2014 Share #18 Posted July 31, 2014 I am left handed. I have no idea which side I corner harder on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share #19 Posted July 31, 2014 Did I start a meaningful conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #20 Posted July 31, 2014 When I'm stopping, more often than not, I'll put down my right foot first. I always clip in on the left first. wonderful good for you. I say you're just being contrarian, but whatever works for you my Canukistan neighbor I just want to say that if this is what I get for trying to be helpful, then you fuck wads need to buckle up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share #21 Posted July 31, 2014 I am left handed. I have no idea which side I corner harder on. Look at the tire. It tells the tale. One side will be more worn. It is very noticeable on a knobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #22 Posted July 31, 2014 Did I start a meaningful conversation? I dunno. I honestly tried to help out I honestly learned this from a rider I respect I honestly intended to share something that helped me as a rider and for that I get to listen to a bunch of bull shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted July 31, 2014 Share #23 Posted July 31, 2014 When I'm stopping, more often than not, I'll put down my right foot first. I always clip in on the left first. This. I unclip my right at a stop or first probably about 90% of the time. I have to make a conscious effort to unclip the left first. Nate, your still full of crap. I don't care how much you forgot or how much you've learned or how many names you call people. The average male heart weighs 300 to 350 grams. With both ventricles full, there is an average of 250 grams of blood in the heart. It does not weigh more than any other organ in the body. The liver weighs 1.5 kg just to name one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted July 31, 2014 Share #24 Posted July 31, 2014 I dunno. I honestly tried to help out I honestly learned this from a rider I respect I honestly intended to share something that helped me as a rider and for that I get to listen to a bunch of bull shit Maybe you should pull your head out and clean your ears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted July 31, 2014 Share #25 Posted July 31, 2014 The person who yells the loudest and protests the most is not necessarily correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #26 Posted July 31, 2014 Maybe you should pull your head out and clean your ears? what the hell? why am I getting ganged up on for trying to talk about cycling? listen fellas...go get on a set of rollers and see for yourselves that's the third time I've said that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted July 31, 2014 Share #27 Posted July 31, 2014 what the hell? why am I getting ganged up on for trying to talk about cycling? listen fellas...go get on a set of rollers and see for yourselves that's the third time I've said that Do they make rollers for Honda mowers? Also: I kid because I love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted July 31, 2014 Share #28 Posted July 31, 2014 listen fellas...go get on a set of rollers and see for yourselves that's the third time I've said that I'm afraid of my rollers. They have thrown me to the ground too many times. I will build bars to surround them before I get back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #29 Posted July 31, 2014 Nate, your still full of crap. I don't care how much you forgot or how much you've learned or how many names you call people. The average male heart weighs 300 to 350 grams. With both ventricles full, there is an average of 250 grams of blood in the heart. It does not weigh more than any other organ in the body. The liver weighs 1.5 kg just to name one. its about moments of force, isn't it? not just mass, I never said the heart was the heaviest organ in the body, just that it was denser than your lungs the distance from your center of gravity matters the same thing goes for your head try tossing your head around in a corner and tell me what happens what is going on here is that you clowns, and I don't want to insult any actual circus or rodeo clowns here, but what you clowns can't contend with is that I might actually be onto something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #30 Posted July 31, 2014 I'm afraid of my rollers. They have thrown me to the ground too many times. I will build bars to surround them before I get back on. try using a doorway, slick like I said, I forgot more about cycling that you jokers ever knew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted July 31, 2014 Share #31 Posted July 31, 2014 try using a doorway, slick like I said, I forgot more about cycling that you jokers ever knew I don't have any doorways in my basement and I am not bringing them up into the house. And for the record, I appreciate everyones knowledge of cycling. Even wrong information is helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted July 31, 2014 Share #32 Posted July 31, 2014 The person who yells the loudest and protests the most is not necessarily correct. Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted July 31, 2014 Share #33 Posted July 31, 2014 You made this crap up, admit it. Balance it determined mostly from our inner ears, and they are symmetrical. It has nothing to do with organ placement. Do people with 1 arm fall over regularly? As for putting your left foot down, roads are crowned for water drainage and usually the right side is lower making the left side more accessible. Also, it help prevent getting a cat5 tattoo on your right leg.thank you for setting Nate straight. You saved me some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #34 Posted July 31, 2014 ok, so I'm wrong...so our bodies are balanced exactly on our center line? is this what you guys are saying? help me now. You all have established that I'm wrong, but what exactly was I wrong about and what is the right answer? I feel like you were more interested in me being wrong than in what I actually said, which is that our balance is a little off of our centerline because our heart sits just to the left of center. That was my position that's all I said to get ganged up on, so please help me understand the correct answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted July 31, 2014 Share #35 Posted July 31, 2014 I know when I mow across a hill my legs hurt some and my mower wants to slide down the hill. I know this in my head and I feel it in my legs. Have never felt it in my spleen or adrenal glands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destination Posted July 31, 2014 Share #36 Posted July 31, 2014 what the hell? why am I getting ganged up on for trying to talk about cycling? I use the methods that work for me. They might not always be the methods the experts recommend, but they're the ones I've learned to use, with good results. This is as true off the bike as on the bike. This is not a judgement of whether your suggestions are right or wrong. That's not really the issue. Often, there are a number of ways to achieve the same end results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted July 31, 2014 Share #37 Posted July 31, 2014 Also, I am usually wrong. I am not agreeing or disagreeing wth anyone. I post videos and asinine comments. Take them for what they are worth, which is nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted July 31, 2014 Share #38 Posted July 31, 2014 Also, I am usually wrong. I am not agreeing or disagreeing wth anyone. I post videos and asinine comments. Take them for what they are worth, which is nothing. hey, one of my posts and $2 will get you a cup of coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted July 31, 2014 Share #39 Posted July 31, 2014 hey, one of my posts and $2 will get you a cup of coffee. I cannot afford $2 coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #40 Posted July 31, 2014 so can anybody actually answer my question, or are you guys only good for seal clubbing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share #41 Posted July 31, 2014 I am more confused than ever now. Maybe, I just need to make an effort to be more agressive on left turns. Which is intersting, because at the pump track, I suck going counterclock, I am all clockwise. Maybe, because the way the track is set up, or because I learned that pump rhythm first and I am relearning the rhythm the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted July 31, 2014 Share #42 Posted July 31, 2014 I was going to ask if your typical pump track loop favored one direction over the other. Are you free to ride it in whichever direction you like? Does the terrain only lend itself to being ridden one way? Is it busy enough that they regulate it - like CW for the first half of the hour, and CCW for the other half? I do want to try this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted July 31, 2014 Share #43 Posted July 31, 2014 I wish that somebody would actually give some sort of answer too but I think they are ashamed to admit that I was right all along and for clarity, what I'm saying is that when we are on a bike our body's center of balance isn't exactly split right down the center line nevermind why that is, it just is so maybe somebody out there can talk about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted July 31, 2014 Share #44 Posted July 31, 2014 so can anybody actually answer my question, or are you guys only good for seal clubbing?this is point where Nate demands you to prove him wrong, or you cannot be right. TK pointed this out Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted July 31, 2014 Author Share #45 Posted July 31, 2014 I was going to ask if your typical pump track loop favored one direction over the other. Are you free to ride it in whichever direction you like? Does the terrain only lend itself to being ridden one way? Is it busy enough that they regulate it - like CW for the first half of the hour, and CCW for the other half? I do want to try this. It's a personal track that I ride at. I do whatever the hell I want there. No regulations. It does favor more nascar style. I'm gonna turn to the left, now. HAHA Well, there are some things to adhere to. Be nice to the berms. No climbing across it. Help groom, water and sweep. Don't ride it too wet. I'll be hitting a big professional style track in my very near future. Trip time here : Cant wait!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted July 31, 2014 Share #46 Posted July 31, 2014 I wish that somebody would actually give some sort of answer too but I think they are ashamed to admit that I was right all along and for clarity, what I'm saying is that when we are on a bike our body's center of balance isn't exactly split right down the center line nevermind why that is, it just is Now you've changed your argument. This one I'll give you. The heart being heavier, and causing us to unclip the left 1st is absolute bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted July 31, 2014 Share #47 Posted July 31, 2014 Nate, I have no idea. I think we all have skeletal issues and that everyone probably rides / walks / runs a bit differently. I think that whatever compensation we make is on an individual level and much of it is instinctive based on how we learned to do things. I have never had any formal cycling training, just did what felt right, I remember getting fitted for clip less pedals after about 30 years of riding and the fitter commenting on how I was pedaling wrong. Toe was always down. Felt right to me and I still do it quite a bit. Seat of pants, I would think that our dominant hand and our dominant eye would some how play into how we do things like corner on a bike. We all have a stronger / weaker side and I think we compensate for that. Key words to all of this are "I" and "think" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted July 31, 2014 Share #48 Posted July 31, 2014 I never said the heart was the heaviest organ in the body, just that it was denser than your lungs You're right you never did say that. You said "see for yourself that the human heart is offset to the left side. its just weight distribution. You have to lean more to the right to get the same moment of force" But it could be implied in what you said. And what you didn't say was any reference to the lungs. I'm still calling crap on whatever you learned about the heart have anything to do with your balance as it related to your center of gravity on a bike. You've forgotten more about cycling than I will even know. I'm just not sure you've forgotten the right things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destination Posted July 31, 2014 Share #49 Posted July 31, 2014 and for clarity, what I'm saying is that when we are on a bike our body's center of balance isn't exactly split right down the center line nevermind why that is, it just is so maybe somebody out there can talk about this I'm not sure how much a slight offset in the body's centre of balance would affect cornering. An offset which affects riding a bike should also affect the way we walk and the way we stand, yet the majority of us stand straight and don't lean noticeably to one side or the other when we walk. As jsharr mentioned earlier, the stronger and weaker sides of the body would likely play a role in tire wear. (Please keep in mind I'm not a medical expert, so I could be wrong.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted July 31, 2014 Share #50 Posted July 31, 2014 Heck, I know I am wrong. This fact is among the few things I am sure of in this life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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