Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Share #1 Posted August 14, 2020 I'm having some flooring put in. I told them to lay it lengthwise with the house, they understood. I went to the basement to paint some doors. I come up, they're half done, wrong direction. He offered to rip it out and start over. Tried twice to call the wife for approval, no answer. I made an executive decision. I told them to leave it. What would you have done? Should I ask for money off the final bill? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted August 14, 2020 Share #2 Posted August 14, 2020 I would have told them to start over 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #3 Posted August 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Zephyr said: I would have told them to start over I felt bad, he's a nice guy. He felt really bad about it. I need to not be angry, that's my default reaction to things I don't like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #4 Posted August 14, 2020 They screwed up, they should fix it. Not your fault. If you screw up at work, do you fix it or just let it slide? Do not answer if it does not support my case please. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted August 14, 2020 Now I feel like I've been swindled. I'll convince myself this will look fine. That part that is done looks really nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #6 Posted August 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Now I feel like I've been swindled. I'll convince myself this will look fine. That part that is done looks really nice. Here is the rub. If it bothers you now, it will bother you more as time passes. It is like a tiny door ding on your car. You do not see the 99.99999% that is blemish free, you see the door ding. Sorry to say this, but we both know it is true. Either get a substantial discount, or have them redo it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #7 Posted August 14, 2020 We should assume that there will be no tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #8 Posted August 14, 2020 I can't have him redo it. If I never asked for a direction, I might have thought, hmm, that's not the direction I was thinking, but it looks nice. This is what we've been living with for the past month since we ripped the rug out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #9 Posted August 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: We should assume that there will be no tip. Not likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted August 14, 2020 Share #10 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Not likely. I would like to see pics on the floor orientation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted August 14, 2020 Share #11 Posted August 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Square Wheels said: This is what we've been living with for the past month since we ripped the rug out. I certainly hope you had that all removed before you installed the new floor over the old floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bikeguy said: I certainly hope you had that all removed before you installed the new floor over the old floor. Not a chance, it's likely asbestos. I did a small amount of work on it. That hack job was from the prior owner who had some plumbing work done. They put floor leveler over the whole floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted August 14, 2020 Share #13 Posted August 14, 2020 52 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Tried twice to call the wife for approval, no answer. I made an executive decision. EVERY time I've done that over my 38 years of marriage, I was wrong for some reason. If you lay flooring, it should always go perpendicular to any sub floor joists. If that's how it was installed, that would be better than you original plan, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, Bikeguy said: EVERY time I've done that over my 38 years of marriage, I was wrong for some reason. My wife is super cool and very laid back. Just now, Bikeguy said: If you lay flooring, it should always go perpendicular to any sub floor joists. If that's how it was installed, that would be better than you original plan, It's fake flooring, the laminate stuff. There are two layers of plywood, 3/4 for the main floor with 5/8 underlayment for the old tile. It won't move. If it were real wood, I would have insisted they remove it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted August 14, 2020 Share #15 Posted August 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: There are two layers of plywood, 3/4 for the main floor with 5/8 underlayment for the old tile. It won't move. As long as there is no movement... yeah that should be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, Bikeguy said: As long as there is no movement... yeah that should be OK. Most of our downstairs had hardwood, probably from the 60s. It runs parallel with the joists. I look forward to when we build our retirement home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted August 14, 2020 Share #17 Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Square Wheels said: Tried twice to call the wife for approval, no answer. I made an executive decision. You won't be getting BJ's for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted August 14, 2020 Share #18 Posted August 14, 2020 Butt where are the pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, Mr. Grumpy said: You won't be getting BJ's for a while. I was getting them before? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #20 Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, Randomguy said: Butt where are the pics? Still working on it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted August 14, 2020 Share #21 Posted August 14, 2020 I don't think "snafu" means what you think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted August 14, 2020 Share #22 Posted August 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Square Wheels said: I was getting them before? Why would anyone get married if bj's weren't involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #23 Posted August 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Why would anyone get married if bj's weren't involved? They were, we're old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #24 Posted August 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, donkpow said: I don't think "snafu" means what you think it does. Almost nothing means what I think it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #25 Posted August 14, 2020 Which way looks better? Sometimes an accident actually turns out well. If it looks noticeably worse, you better start planning and building that "retirement home" sooner rather than later (and let your wife handle the contractors). Finally, he may be a nice guy and all, but I really wonder about "professionals" who don't make sure they are TOTALLY on the same page (and even have a page with a drawing or two detailing the work). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #26 Posted August 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Which way looks better? Sometimes an accident actually turns out well. There are three small rooms. A place where the washer / dryer sits - that behind closed doors most of the time. A tiny hallway at the top of the stairs. Then a small, but larger room that is our office. The flooring goes parallel with that room, so it looks good in there. In the end, it will look good. I have a ton of woodwork to do now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #27 Posted August 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Which way looks better? Sometimes an accident actually turns out well. If it looks noticeably worse, you better start planning and building that "retirement home" sooner rather than later (and let your wife handle the contractors). Finally, he may be a nice guy and all, but I really wonder about "professionals" who don't make sure they are TOTALLY on the same page (and even have a page with a drawing or two detailing the work). Seems like long way in the room is pretty clear, unless the room is close to square. The puzzling part is he said he understood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #28 Posted August 14, 2020 It was nice knowing you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #29 Posted August 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dottles said: It was nice knowing you. Yes, executive decisions for something like that are not for me! I am too wimpy, too wombly. But since it’s done, I’d use the joist defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted August 14, 2020 Share #30 Posted August 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Square Wheels said: In the end, it will look good. Just keep telling yourself that. "It will good good." "It will good good." "It will good good." "It will good good." "It will good good." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted August 14, 2020 Share #31 Posted August 14, 2020 Just now, Philander Seabury said: Yes, executive decisions for something like that are not for me! I am too wimpy, too wombly. I am too battered and bruised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #32 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Just keep telling yourself that. "It will good good." "It will good good." "It will good good." "It will good good." "It will good good." More importantly, “she will like it”, with a kumquat over it for repeating forever, er I mean a verticillium, or whatever! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #33 Posted August 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Randomguy said: Why would anyone get married if bj's weren't involved? wedding cake cures nymphomania. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Popular Post Share #34 Posted August 14, 2020 I was at Home Depot when she got home, she text me I love it, and The direction is perfect. She tells me it would not have looked good the other direction. 3 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #35 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: I was at Home Depot when she got home, she text me I love it, and The direction is perfect. She tells me it would not have looked good the other direction. And I thought my wife was awesome. Count this as one of your nine lives spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #36 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dottles said: Count this as one of your nine lives spent. Nope, even if she hated it, she just saw, oh well. She really is very laid back about stuff like this. We never fight or argue. We rarely even disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #37 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Nope, even if she hated it, she just saw, oh well. She really is very laid back about stuff like this. We never fight or argue. We rarely even disagree. Facade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #38 Posted August 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Nope, even if she hated it, she just saw, oh well. She really is very laid back about stuff like this. We never fight or argue. We rarely even disagree. Wait. I thought she was female. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted August 14, 2020 Share #39 Posted August 14, 2020 If you don't like the way it looks you can always install carpet over it 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted August 14, 2020 Share #40 Posted August 14, 2020 I agree with not being angry. In the end, if it is installed well that is most important. How often do you really stare at the floor in these spaces. Will you also have an area rug in the office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #41 Posted August 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: I was at Home Depot when she got home, she text me I love it, and The direction is perfect. She tells me it would not have looked good the other direction. It's better to be lucky than good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted August 14, 2020 Share #42 Posted August 14, 2020 59 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: I was at Home Depot when she got home, she text me I love it, and The direction is perfect. She tells me it would not have looked good the other direction. This happened because you worried about it. The things I worry about rarely come true, the things I dismiss as minor have a way of growing from molehill to volcano... PS: Glad it worked out 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted August 14, 2020 Share #43 Posted August 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Square Wheels said: I felt bad, he's a nice guy. He felt really bad about it. I need to not be angry, that's my default reaction to things I don't like. I would feel bad too, and probably apologize for making him re-do it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #44 Posted August 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Zephyr said: I would feel bad too, and probably apologize for making him re-do it Of course, you are not only a Canadian, but Dudley Do-right! SW is a hard ass baastonian! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 14, 2020 Share #45 Posted August 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Further said: This happened because you worried about it. The things I worry about rarely come true, the things I dismiss as minor have a way of growing from molehill to volcano... PS: Glad it worked out it is almost like Alfred e Newman was right, but good as it feels, not worrying at all does not seem right either. Finding the right things to worry aboot, but only in moderation, seems right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted August 14, 2020 Share #46 Posted August 14, 2020 Where are the pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupw Posted August 14, 2020 Share #47 Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Square Wheels said: Nope, even if she hated it, she just saw, oh well. She really is very laid back about stuff like this. We never fight or argue. We rarely even disagree. I don’t know. If there aren’t arguments, one of you is likely to have deep-hidden rage. If it’s not you... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted August 14, 2020 Share #48 Posted August 14, 2020 I would have looked at what was done, and if it looked ok, I'd have them finish it that way. I probably would have asked them which way to put it in anyway since I'm not good with that sort of stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted August 14, 2020 Share #49 Posted August 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Kirby said: I would have looked at what was done, and if it looked ok, I'd have them finish it that way. I probably would have asked them which way to put it in anyway since I'm not good with that sort of stuff. They do know best. That is what I did after checking with @AirwickWithCheese 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share #50 Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Airehead said: Will you also have an area rug in the office? Not likely. It's oddly not cold on bare feet. Since it's essentially plastic, but looks and feels like wood, I assumed it would be cold. 17 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Where are the pics? I have a lot of woodwork to do still. I'll take pics when I'm done. 14 minutes ago, groupw said: I don’t know. If there aren’t arguments, one of you is likely to have deep-hidden rage. If it’s not you... Nope. I was angry most of my life. I try not to be anymore. She never really has been. We talk, we compromise, we plan. We don't argue. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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