Is there no moderator in this debate?

[Randomguy]

?

Jesus, is everyone going to talk at once?

[Allen ★]

It’s a shit show. 

[Parsnip Totin Jack ★]

They didn’t adopt my suggestion for shock collars. I’m disappointed ☹️ 

[Randomguy]

I turned it off, all the voices echoing off the walls was too much.

[Further]

I have no need to watch

[Randomguy]

5 minutes ago, Further said:

I have no need to watch

You really don't, it is just name calling at this point.  Nobody is going to change their minds from this.

[Green Grass]

If this doesn't end in a fist fight, I'll be surprised.

[Prophet Zacharia]

9 minutes ago, Randomguy said:

Nobody is going to change their minds from this.

They’re saying it’s just a 6% undecided electorate. I’m surprised it’s even that high. 

[Ralphie ★]

57 minutes ago, Allen said:

It’s a shit show. 

Now THERE’S a surprise!  

 

[MickinMD ★]

I wasn't very impressed - nothing I didn't already know.

I was impressed with the fact that moderator Chris Wallace was fair with both candidates: he's very conservative and a lot of his Fox news casts involve opinions passed along as fact.

[Forum Administrator]

1 hour ago, Randomguy said:

You really don't, it is just name calling at this point.  Nobody is going to change their minds from this.

My mom sent me a text saying she wasn't voting this year.  At least one mind was changed.

[Dottleshead ★]

1 hour ago, Further said:

I have no need to watch

This.  I won't watch the next one or the next one.  And my MIL has Faux News cranked up and I laugh at the rah rah cheerleading going on.  Then again I'd be laughing my ass off if I were listening to MSNBC too.  They all can go fuck themselves.  

[Dottleshead ★]

1 hour ago, Goat Geddah said:

If this doesn't end in a fist fight, I'll be surprised.

Now that would be entertaining.

[Dottleshead ★]

34 minutes ago, Forum Administrator said:

My mom sent me a text saying she wasn't voting this year.  At least one mind was changed.

Yeah I'm skipping out too.  I mean just the presidential vote.  

[Dirtyhip]

I am very shocked people would skip this vote.  It seems to be the most important vote of my lifetime. 

[Ralphie ★]

So it didn’t sound like it was the USA’s finest moment.   Sad that it was snot a surprise for anybody.

 

[Allen ★]

3 hours ago, Randomguy said:

You really don't, it is just name calling at this point.  Nobody is going to change their minds from this.

One of my friends on FB dropped his support for Trump because of the way he acted during this debate. I was surprised. 

[Page Turner]

2 hours ago, Dottles said:

Yeah I'm skipping out too.  I mean just the presidential vote.  

 

1 hour ago, Dirtyhip said:

I am very shocked people would skip this vote.  It seems to be the most important vote of my lifetime. 

...I don't get how not voting sends a message. I've never understood the people who tell me that. It's obvious at this point that Trump has decided he's so far down in polling is that his one shot at staying in office is creating enough chaos in the process to call the results into quesiton, and mouint legal challenges in all the states that are close, (that matter in terms of Electoral College votes.)

 

If you don't particularly think that it's a good idea to enable that kind of behavior, you ought to be planning to vote early. this is especially true in the Eastern part of the country, where the earliest returns and projections will come in. If it's not a convincing loss, or if voter turnout is way down, it's asking a three year old narcissist to exert enough self control to not break anything.

[maddmaxx ★]

4 hours ago, Dirtyhip said:

I am very shocked people would skip this vote.  It seems to be the most important vote of my lifetime. 

Those who don't vote are attempting to avoid blame IMO.

[BR46]

Chris Wallace didn't use my suggestion of using shock collars to keep things under control. 

We could have turned it into a drinking game......every time one of the candidates gets shocked you take a drink. 

[Randomguy]

10 hours ago, MickinMD said:

I was impressed with the fact that moderator Chris Wallace was fair with both candidates: he's very conservative and a lot of his Fox news casts involve opinions passed along as fact.

I didn't get far enough along to see fairness or bias from him, then I turned it off from the crapfest.  It was apparent that he had no way to stop the interrupting and continuing on, so I thought him very ineffective because of that.

[groupw]

[Razors Edge ★]

8 minutes ago, Randomguy said:

I didn't get far enough along to see fairness or bias from him, then I turned it off from the crapfest.  It was apparent that he had no way to stop the interrupting and continuing on, so I thought him very ineffective because of that.

Interrupting and talking over is a very effective arguing technique.  It shouldn't be called a "debate" (talk to @roadsue ) but it shouldn't be discounted as ineffective.  Again, it's the "never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." sort of thing but which, sadly, in 2016 and 2020 (and 2008) are part of the process

[maddmaxx ★]

I really really like the shock collar idea.  Maybe it could be hooked up to some sort of crowd  Nielson box so the viewers could apply it whenever.

[FX_James_7.9]

Are we allowed to talk politics again?

[Kzoo]

Just now, FX_James_7.9 said:

Are we allowed to talk politics again?

NO

[Square Wheels]

Just now, FX_James_7.9 said:

Are we allowed to talk politics again?

I have been impressed with everyone's ability to civilly discuss an issue without bringing politics into the conversation.

[Square Wheels]

Just now, Kzoo said:

NO

What he said.

[Razors Edge ★]

1 minute ago, FX_James_7.9 said:

Are we allowed to talk politics again?

No, but i know you have OTHER interests, and those would be very welcome here!

[Kzoo]

3 minutes ago, Square Wheels said:

I have been impressed with everyone's ability to civilly discuss an issue without bringing politics into the conversation.

What he said.

[Razors Edge ★]

1 minute ago, Kzoo said:

What he said.

HE IS A DOLT

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kzoo]

Just now, Razors Edge said:

I tried that yesterday.  I rounded up the council, presented my case, and was roundly shouted down.  I was just like a debate but I lost.

 

[Razors Edge ★]

11 minutes ago, Kzoo said:

I tried that yesterday.  I rounded up the council, presented my case, and was roundly shouted down.  I was just like a debate but I lost.

 

Your case wasn't packed full enough with cash!!!  Next time, and I have this on fairly good authority, SW likes BENJAMINS not those dopey Jacksons you tried to pass off on him.  Dude has expensive tastes!

[Randomguy]

24 minutes ago, FX_James_7.9 said:

Are we allowed to talk politics again?

No politics in the thread so far, just the happenings because this is so topical.  I don't know that I need to watch the next two after this one could have been on Jerry Springer.

[BR46]

7 minutes ago, Randomguy said:

this one could have been on Jerry Springer.

Jerry Springer instead of Chris Wallace?

Can we bring back Steve to break up the fights?

[Randomguy]

4 minutes ago, BR46 said:

Jerry Springer instead of Chris Wallace?

Can we bring back Steve to break up the fights?

Jerry would definitely have more control over the debate.  The moderator ought to have a microphone kill switch on the candidates.

[Parsnip Totin Jack ★]

1 minute ago, Randomguy said:

No politics in the thread so far, just the happenings because this is so topical.  I don't know that I need to watch the next two after this one could have been on Jerry Springer.

Who’s the moderator for the next debate? I like the Samuel L Jackson suggestion. “I said two minutes motherfucker”

[maddmaxx ★]

You should send someone fair and unbiased.  

[Page Turner]

1 hour ago, Old No. 7 said:

Who’s the moderator for the next debate? 

...I heard it was some C Span guy I never heard of before this.

 

The moderators include Chris Wallace, an anchor for Fox News for the first debate, Susan Page, Washington Bureau Chief for USA Today for the VP debate, Steve Scully, Senior Executive Producer and Political Editor of C-SPAN Networks for the second debate, and Kristen Welker, Co-Anchor Weekend TODAY and White House Correspondent for NBC News for the third.

[Dirtyhip]

In Lord of the Flies, they passed the conch.  Maybe they should utilize that tactic at debates. 

I was horrified at the incivility at the debate.    I am a fan of the microphone mute, when it is not your time to speak.  Facial expressions only when someone is speaking.  

[Razors Edge ★]

3 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said:

I am a fan of the microphone mute, when it is not your time to speak.

That should be implemented. Your mike turns on when it is your turn to speak.

It is FRIGHTENING to imagine a PRESIDENTIAL debate would require such a measure.  Now, it is no longer "imagining" as much as needing/desiring/wishing for such a measure.

[Page Turner]

 

Welker is the daughter of Harvey and Julie Welker.^[3] Her father is an engineer, her mother a real estate agent.^[4] Welker's father is Native American and her mother is black.^[3][5] She graduated from Germantown Friends School in Philadelphia in 1994 and Harvard College with a Bachelor of Arts in 1998.^[6][7][8] At Harvard, she majored in history and graduated with honors.^[9] Welker also interned for Today in 1997

...she also covers the White House in a lot of the press briefings.  I'm guessing she has little love left for the Trumpster.

 

 

 

Scully was born in Erie, Pennsylvania on September 17, 1960, to Hubert L. "Hoot" Scully and Elizabeth Jane North "Betty" Scully.^[2] He was the 14th of 16 children, including five sets of twins.^[3][4]

Scully received a 1982 undergraduate degree with honors in communication and political science from American University in Washington, D.C. During his degree he completed a 1980-81 study abroad program at the University of Copenhagen, he served as a constituent intern in the office of Delaware Sen. Joe Biden from September to October 1978 as part of a college course on Congress, and in Sen. Ted Kennedy’s media affairs office in early 1979.^[5][6] Scully then earned a Master of Science degree in journalism from Northwestern University’s Medill School of Journalism, graduating magna cum laude in 1984.^[

 

^{...he interned for Biden.}

[Page Turner]

...OK, it's not difficult to discern the President's debate strategy after my research foray. Chris Wallace was his one hope at a moderator who did not already dislike him, and he has spent a lot of time in the past month or two berating the man for what he considers unfavorable coverage.  So given the schedule and the moderators, going into the first debate and turning it into a nude jello wrestling match (with saggy balls to watch) makes perfect sense.

 

Even if the Biden people don't cancel the next two, most people have already decided not to watch any of the others.  This is a winning strategy, IMO.  If you see the deck is stacked against you, turn over the card table and run. (But grab some of the cash on your way out the door.)

[groupw]

When I was working at the home improvement place, I made a mistake that delayed a customer's order. I apologized, did everything to make it right and expressed it at no charge to them. Not good enough for Mrs Bestboobsmoneycanbuy. She berated me on a busy Saturday in front of many customers. After she was done, my manager said "you know you didn't have to take that. You could have walked away and I would have backed you" I asked him who looked smaller when she was yelling. I got a lot of "who was that bitch" comments from customers who witnessed it. Don't know why I felt like posting that here..

 

[Kzoo]

3 minutes ago, groupw said:

When I was working at the home improvement place, I made a mistake that delayed a customer's order. I apologized, did everything to make it right and expressed it at no charge to them. Not good enough for Mrs Bestboobsmoneycanbuy. She berated me on a busy Saturday in front of many customers. After she was done, my manager said "you know you didn't have to take that. You could have walked away and I would have backed you" I asked him who looked smaller when she was yelling. I got a lot of "who was that bitch" comments from customers who witnessed it. Don't know why I felt like posting that here..

 

understood

 

[Razors Edge ★]

3 minutes ago, Kzoo said:

understood

 

...that RG is a moran?  Yep.

[Page Turner]

6 minutes ago, groupw said:

When I was working at the home improvement place, I made a mistake that delayed a customer's order. I apologized, did everything to make it right and expressed it at no charge to them. Not good enough for Mrs Bestboobsmoneycanbuy. She berated me on a busy Saturday in front of many customers. After she was done, my manager said "you know you didn't have to take that. You could have walked away and I would have backed you" I asked him who looked smaller when she was yelling. I got a lot of "who was that bitch" comments from customers who witnessed it. Don't know why I felt like posting that here..

 

 

3 minutes ago, Kzoo said:

understood

 

...I understood it as "I just leered at her magnificent breasts the entire time, and understood none of what she said to me.'

[Kzoo]

1 minute ago, Page Turner said:

 

...I understood it as "I just leered at her magnificent breasts the entire time, and understood none of what she said to me.'

Annnnnnnnd you are the mature one here.

* walks away shaking head *

[Page Turner]

6 minutes ago, Kzoo said:

Annnnnnnnd you are the mature one here.

* walks away shaking head *

....the topic of this thread is last night's Presidential debate.  The Maturity is over on aisle three, among the reasoned discourse products.  We had to move them to a smaller section in the back of the store, because they don't sell well any more, but we still stock them as a courtesy to our older customers. We don't make any money off them, so I'd be careful about complaining if I were you.

[groupw]

8 minutes ago, Page Turner said:

 

...I understood it as "I just leered at her magnificent breasts the entire time, and understood none of what she said to me.'

Nope. She was a trophy wife. Physical beauty couldn't conceal the ugly inside. Even female staff commented on the boob job because it was just so prominent.