Alright you Millenial Savages....

[Nate]

time for you to pull your own weight around here.

 

I need your help. That means I need you to do something for somebody other than yourself and there's no trophies involved

 

You just get the satisfaction of proving me wrong all the times I said you were completely useless

 

got it?

 

Good!

 

now here's what I need....

 

I have to play a modern rock and roll jam session soon and the last band that made any impact on how I play rock was Tool, and those guys are applying for AARP by now

 

So I need to know some bands to check out

 

Here's the catch: they actually have to play instruments. A singer that is all production and videos won't give me any ideas to play on the guitar

 

do you kids even play instruments anymore, or is it all iPads now?

 

anyway...make with some suggestions

 

don't make me turn the hose on you kids

[Mr. Silly]

Have you checked out the Jive Talkin' thread?  You should do the Cab Calloway tune.  Joe Jackson rocked Jumpin' Jive:

 

[Nate]

I appreciate the help, Mr Silly, but we're about the same age. I listened to Joe Jackson a lot in the 80s

 

 Go figure...only hard working guys from our generation are even awake and at work goofing off this time of the morning

 

those spoiled kids are still asleep or flipping Egg McMuffins for the breakfast rush

[Square Wheels]

You have an interesting approach. You insult and alienate almost everyone and then demand their help.

I bet you'll get a lot of useful replies.

[Nate]

You have an interesting approach. You insult and alienate almost everyone and then demand their help.

 those little bastards need to learn that life isn't all trophies and fru-fru crapolla. The sooner they learn that, the better off they will be

[Chopped Liver]

Sorry....Music sucks these days.  Unless you're willing to do an 80's hair band or heavy metal type, I got nothing for you.

[TrentonMakes]

When you say "modern rock" are you looking for the kinds of hugely popular bands that are currently filling arenas?  or just examples of recent rock music?  It sounds like you're not necessarily looking for specific songs that a random group of people are likely to know.  

 

These bands are not the ones filling stadiums, but hopefully it at least gives you some ideas.  I'll try to think of more if I can.  (and - hey, I've been up since 5:30)

 

Franz Ferdinand, "Bullet" (2013)

 

Frank Turner, "Four Simple Words" (2013) - if you're impatient for the rawk then skip to 1:25.  a little rated-R language in here 

 

Against Me!, "Transgender Dysphoria Blues" (2014) - a lot of R-rated language in here including a C-word - beware.  (the album is autobiographical as suggested by the title)

 

The Hold Steady – “Rock Problems” (2010) - they have a bit of a ‘classic rock’ style

 

Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers – “Shadow People” (2014) – OK, this maybe isn’t helpful but I'm including it because it's awesome.  Listen to Mike Campbell’s solo at 3:15

[TrentonMakes]

Sorry....Music sucks these days.  

 

I really try to let it go, but I can't stand it when I hear people say this.  The good stuff maybe isn't saturating the airwaves the way it used to, but whatever it is that you like, it's out there, I promise.

[Dirtyhip]

time for you to pull your own weight around here.

 

I need your help. That means I need you to do something for somebody other than yourself and there's no trophies involved

 

 

 

I'm out.  

 

Seriously, I sold my Bass and have zero interest in playing music anymore. I wasn't that great anyway,

[KrAzY]

Ben Folds Five ( not just Ben Folds) There will be lots of instruments in the band.

 

Mariachi music has a getar in it

 

Other then that... I only have old school music I listen to from the 30's to 80's... 

[Nate]

Trenton, thanks! that's the sort of thing I was looking for

 

I liked Frank Turner a lot. I'll check them out some more.

 

Its no wonder Hold Steady has a classic rock sound, those guys are all my age

[Nate]

I'm out.  

 

Seriously, I sold my Bass and have zero interest in playing music anymore. I wasn't that great anyway,

 

 you're too old to help with this sort of thing anyway

[Dirtyhip]

 

 

those spoiled kids are still asleep or flipping Egg McMuffins for the breakfast rush

 

 

Are you nuts?  Millenials aren't awake in the morning.  They are sleeping in their parents house or on someone's floor.

[Chopped Liver]

I really try to let it go, but I can't stand it when I hear people say this.  The good stuff maybe isn't saturating the airwaves the way it used to, but whatever it is that you like, it's out there, I promise.

Allow me to rephrase what I said for those who are sort of simple minded. 

Most of the newer music out there now sucks.

[Dirtyhip]

 you're too old to help with this sort of thing anyway

 

Don't you dare call me old!  

[Dirtyhip]

 

Most of the newer music out there now sucks.

 

Hey now, not all of it.  

[Nate]

 the thing si that music hasn't evolved since I checked out over 10 years ago.

 

If you lived in a cave from 1958 to 1968, music changed dramatically

 

same if you put your head in the sand in 1972 and checked back in 1982

 

but the last band I got hip to was a band out of Chicago area (I think) called Hum. That was in 2002

 

There just isn't any progression from where things were in 1995 until now, and we're talking 20 years

 

I never thought I'd see pop music stagnate like that ever

[TrentonMakes]

Seriously, I sold my Bass 

 

Let me guess - it wasn't delicious enough?

[Nate]

Let me guess - it wasn't delicious enough?

 

I'm impressed. Helpful and even able to put together jokes?

 

you must be closer to 40 than I thought

[TrentonMakes]

Its no wonder Hold Steady has a classic rock sound, those guys are all my age

 

Wait a cotton-pickin' minute - they're my age too.  How old are you?  

 

I'm no millennial; I just love hearing great new music.

[UglyBob]

 
I never thought I'd see pop music stagnate like that ever

I blame the Jonas Brothers...

[Nate]

 

Wait a cotton-pickin' minute - they're my age too.  How old are you?  

 

 

I'm 49

[Dirtyhip]

Let me guess - it wasn't delicious enough?

 

Lost some hand function in an MS attack and it was frustrating me that I didn't have the dexterity.  I eventually got the hand much better, not perfect, but better.  I sold the bass and bought a road bike for an MS 150.

[TrentonMakes]

I'm 49

 

42 here.  Not too far off....

[kingtermite]

Seether

 

[Chopped Liver]

 the thing si that music hasn't evolved since I checked out over 10 years ago.

 

If you lived in a cave from 1958 to 1968, music changed dramatically

 

same if you put your head in the sand in 1972 and checked back in 1982

 

but the last band I got hip to was a band out of Chicago area (I think) called Hum. That was in 2002

 

There just isn't any progression from where things were in 1995 until now, and we're talking 20 years

 

I never thought I'd see pop music stagnate like that ever

Pop music is more about visuals now.  Prior to MTV, the music at least had to be musical.  Now, it's just a pretty face in a video for most of the stuff out there (not all of it of course). 

[Nate]

so one thing I notice is that the sound seems to be the crisp single coil sound with a bit of grit, but not searing distortion, and a bit of chorus/compression to thicken the note, but not too much

 

its almost a mid 80s sort of sound, which is good because I've got the rig for that sort of noise

 

Its nice to hear guys taking solos again, too. One thing I noticed with Tool and bands with that format is that the band all just played together and the whole was greater than the sum of the parts. there wasn't anybody taking solos in the classic sense

[Square Wheels]

I don't know what a millennial is, but I don't think I am one.

 

Anyhow, I'm not too crazy about what you hear these days.  I do like Third Eye Blind though.

 

Slow

 

Also slow

 

 

Probably one of their more popular

[TrentonMakes]

Allow me to rephrase what I said for those who are sort of simple minded. 

Most of the newer music out there now sucks.

 

Your rephrasing is acceptable to me.

 

signed,

 

Simple

[Chopped Liver]

Your rephrasing is acceptable to me.

 

signed,

 

Simple

 

Great minds and all...

[jsharr]

 

 

[Kzoo]

I don't know what a millennial is, but I don't think I am one.

 

 

 

If you don't know what a millennial is, you're too old to be one!!!

 

And I'm with DH on this one.  If I can't get a participation trophy, you can just go suck a rotten egg.

 

And as the SquareFellow mentioned, it always helps to throw a few insults out there before you ask for help.

[jsharr]

[jsharr]

I represent the slack jawed imbeciles contingent of the googly moran party.

[Chopped Liver]

I represent the slack jawed imbeciles contingent of the googly moran party.

you got my vote....jsharr for president! 

[TrentonMakes]

The Godfathers - Birth School Work Death

 

I love this song - some great guitar work in there.  

 

however the millennials weren't even born yet when this was released (1988).

[jsharr]

I love this song - some great guitar work in there.  

 

however the millennials weren't even born yet when this was released (1988).

That is how Nate can fool them.  He can tell them this is some new Indie band from some country outside the America, like Canada or Dakota.

[Nate]

Thanks KT for the Seattle style.

 

I liked the Ray Barretto cover Urban Dance Squad did JSharr

[jsharr]

Thanks KT for the Seattle style.

 

I liked the Ray Barretto cover Urban Dance Squad did JSharr

To be fair they sampled him in the song I believe.

[Nate]

 yea, I'm not looking for songs to cover. I'm looking more for what people these days are doing with guitars. More like looking for riffs and anything that sounds different than the last time I checked

 

also for what sort of sound people are using

[Nate]

To be fair they sampled him in the song I believe.

 

 

they definitely did

[jsharr]

they definitely did

As neither fully slack jawed imbicile or a millenial savage, my ability to discern fact from fiction and self created reality is limited at best.  Thank you for the clarification.

[Chopped Liver]

 yea, I'm not looking for songs to cover. I'm looking more for what people these days are doing with guitars. More like looking for riffs and anything that sounds different than the last time I checked

 

also for what sort of sound people are using

I hear there's a new sound out in the NW...I think they call it grunge. 

[TrentonMakes]

I'm looking more for what people these days are doing with guitars.... also for what sort of sound people are using

 

If you look hard enough you'll still find almost everything - clean/distorted, coils/humbuckers, etc.  As long as you can get reaonably close and you have some variability you should be fine.

 

When is this jam again?  And is this a group that you can discuss/coordinate with beforehand?

 

I play with a group of friends and I feel like a big shot hauling in my Les Paul, my Telecaster and my acoustic.  As if I can play well.  (But I do use them all, generally)  I think/hope we are playing Saturday and I can't wait.

[Randomguy]

Allow me to rephrase what I said for those who are sort of simple minded. 

Most of the newer music out there now sucks.

 

Actually, there is some good music out there that is new.  That said, there is so much more to wade through to find it because the barriers to entry are so low these days, anybody with a computer can slap something together.  I don't have the energy to wade through all that crap these days, and if I did, I just don't have the time.

 

Nate, I think I am older than you, so I don't have much that you can play that isn't overproduced or done on electric something or others with a screen.

[Nate]

 

When is this jam again?  And is this a group that you can discuss/coordinate with beforehand?

 

well, we're trying to work out everybody's schedule right now. Maybe next week, maybe in September when I'm back from Washington state

 

I'm playing with some freinds. Twin brothers. One plays bass the other is a drummer. They are one of the best rhythm sections in town, so its a treat to have them asking me to jam

 

This is why I picked up the strat copy last week

 

I dragged the PA equipment out last weekend and set up the board and PA, made space for the drum kit and all that.

 

I'm working on my electric playing right now, too. I'm really liking the sound I'm getting from my Fender reverb with one of my distortion pedals and a Boss Chorus pedal. The distortion box is a "Blues Driver" pedal that doesn't have the heavy distortion of a heavy metal box, more like the sound of overdriven tubes, so that with a little chorus through a Fender rig is sounding like what I'm going to go with

[jsharr]

well, we're trying to work out everybody's schedule right now. Maybe next week, maybe in September when I'm back from Washington state

 

I'm playing with some freinds. Twin brothers. One plays bass the other is a drummer. They are one of the best rhythm sections in town, so its a treat to have them asking me to jam

 

This is why I picked up the strat copy last week

 

I dragged the PA equipment out last weekend and set up the board and PA, made space for the drum kit and all that.

 

I'm working on my electric playing right now, too. I'm really liking the sound I'm getting from my Fender reverb with one of my distortion pedals and a Boss Chorus pedal. The distortion box is a "Blues Driver" pedal that doesn't have the heavy distortion of a heavy metal box, more like the sound of overdriven tubes, so that with a little chorus through a Fender rig is sounding like what I'm going to go with

And you call DH a hippy?

[TrentonMakes]

The distortion box is a "Blues Driver" pedal that doesn't have the heavy distortion of a heavy metal box, more like the sound of overdriven tubes

 

Sometimes for fun and/or stress-busting I rip into some heavy distortion, but that overdriven-tube sound is what I really love - it works for most of what my friends and I play.

[Randomguy]

Hey, Nate, why don't you find some awful crapfest and make it all cool?  Some drivel with decent bones has to be appealing, can't you do something or other?

[Chopped Liver]

Sometimes for fun and/or stress-busting I rip into some heavy distortion, but that overdriven-tube sound is what I really love - it works for most of what my friends and I play.

It's why I want a 1 or 5 watt all tube amp.