bikeman564™ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #1 Posted February 22, 2021 for work, the new company (we're apart of another company now) has an online portal for employees which is pretty neat. All my pay stubs, W2 and such are on there. But "corporate" now has this goal thing where I &/or my manager need to set goals for me w/ due dates and what nots so they can be evaluated later. I have no goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR46 Posted February 22, 2021 Share #2 Posted February 22, 2021 You can't let them down if you don't have any goals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #3 Posted February 22, 2021 1. I want a raise for this year 2. I want a raise for next year 3. I want to have free coffee in the cafe. You can borrow my goals as I no longer need them since the company did away with my job 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted February 22, 2021 Share #4 Posted February 22, 2021 Just now, maddmaxx said: since the company did away with my job And you continue to wonder why. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
az_cyclist Posted February 22, 2021 Share #5 Posted February 22, 2021 I used to hate this process. In the end the day to day operation didnt really fit the goals you "created" (which were actually just reworded goals passed down the chain from VP to director to manager to supervisor, etc). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #6 Posted February 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, Kzoo said: And you continue to wonder why. I know right. These were just the preliminary goals. By the time the process was complete I'd been told what my goals really were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted February 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: 1. I want a raise for this year 2. I want a raise for next year 3. I want to have free coffee in the cafe. You can borrow my goals as I no longer need them since the company did away with my job I thought of putting down #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #8 Posted February 22, 2021 As I mentioned in another post, made them specific using action words. Not applicable to your job, but for example you don't list a goal as, "Improve my vocabulary," you say "Learn and define 100 new words." Then there's no way for someone to say you didn't meet your goal on time if you did the goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted February 22, 2021 Share #9 Posted February 22, 2021 For us, goals work. With so many different areas you can choose to work towards, having goals set help you justify when asking for specific training or to attend specific conferences. For me, when my subordinates have no goals, it shows a lack of motivation. I am a firm believer in "If you aren't moving forward, you are falling behind" Goals do not have to be big lofty targets, just something to show you are learning something this year you did not know last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted February 22, 2021 Share #10 Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, bikeman564™ said: But "corporate"... Is this the guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share #11 Posted February 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, donkpow said: Is this the guy? no idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted February 22, 2021 Share #12 Posted February 22, 2021 I don't know how many times I have heard things like, "set goals", "use new metrics", "reevaluate priorities", .... It's like old is new again. I say let's lump it all under the 'Hawthorne effect' and get back to work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted February 22, 2021 Share #13 Posted February 22, 2021 Short term My goal is quitting time Longer term my goal is payday Ultimately my goal is retirement 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share #14 Posted February 22, 2021 22 minutes ago, donkpow said: I don't know how many times I have heard things like, "set goals", "use new metrics", "reevaluate priorities", .... It's like old is new again. I say let's lump it all under the 'Hawthorne effect' and get back to work. I've never heard it here, but the company is different now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Far ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #15 Posted February 22, 2021 !st quarter goal: deposit 25% of my yearly 401(k) contribution. into the account. 2nd quarter goal: deposit another 25% of my yearly 401(k) contribution. into the account. 3rd quarter goal: deposit another 25% of my yearly 401(k) contribution. into the account. 4th quarter goal: deposit another 25% of my yearly 401(k) contribution. into the account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted February 22, 2021 Share #16 Posted February 22, 2021 This year on my review, I just copied my goals from last year and made them my goals for this year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #17 Posted February 22, 2021 3 hours ago, bikeman564™ said: for work, the new company (we're apart of another company now) Sabre? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share #18 Posted February 22, 2021 I'll get goal ideas from Dilbert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyBob Posted February 22, 2021 Share #19 Posted February 22, 2021 My only goal for the last few years has been survival. Beyond that, it's all gravy... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted February 22, 2021 Share #20 Posted February 22, 2021 Whatever goals you select should be framed against (1) what you directly control, (2) what you can influence, and (3) what you cannot control or influence. Ideally all your goals should be in the first category. If you have to select goals from the second category, list what conditions must be met, what support you need and from whom, by when, and explicitly state without that support the goal cannot be met. Resist to the full extent of your ability any goals that fall into the third category. If forced to accept category three goals, again list all the conditions under which that goal is contingent. Whatever you do, do not set yourself up for failure by creating a goal where your success is entirely dependent upon other people or circumstances that do not and will not respond to you. Do not accept goals for which all the responsibility is assigned to you, but an equal measure of authority is not given or provided. Listing (i.e., documenting) those contingencies for category 2 and 3 goals - with approval of your manager - allows you to demonstrate when you don't meet a specific goal that the agreed upon conditions did not exist. Since the conditions did not exist, still holding you to that goal is neither rational nor reasonable. Most managers readily go along with this documentation because they've got their eyes on the goal and not the caveats/conditions. Not that such documentation will provide an irrevocable defense come evaluation time, as we all know that 'rational and reasonable' often don't apply to HR policy and actions. However, having the qualifications documented will make it more difficult to lay fault at your feet. If nothing else it will may you a harder target for HR to zero in on, and make easier for them to move on to some poor slob who wasn't so careful in defining their pie-in-the-sky goals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #21 Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Zephyr said: For us, goals work. With so many different areas you can choose to work towards Of course goals work for you, you’re a hockey player. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #22 Posted February 22, 2021 You should be able to score some goals on this guy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #23 Posted February 22, 2021 Pretty easy in research, as we set new goals every 5 years with a new project, and individual goals were built off of these. Most importantly, one needs to have short-term, as well as, long-term goals, to be able to show progress to evaluators. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted February 22, 2021 Share #24 Posted February 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, sheep_herder said: one needs to have short-term, as well as, long-term goals, to be able to show progress to evaluators grow as an individual and as a professional.. FIFY If you aren't growing you are dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #25 Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Kzoo said: FIFY If you aren't growing you are dying. That kind of goes without saying in our field of research. If you are not growing, you are not publishing, and professionally you die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted February 22, 2021 Share #26 Posted February 22, 2021 1 minute ago, sheep_herder said: That kind of goes without saying in our field of research. If you are not growing, you are not publishing, and professionally you die. Research and academia obviously but the rest if the world doesn't have that requirement. There are way too many people that can coast for years. Coasting is just dying real, real slowly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Some Old Guy Posted February 22, 2021 Share #27 Posted February 22, 2021 BCC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted February 22, 2021 Share #28 Posted February 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Research and academia obviously but the rest if the world doesn't have that requirement. There are way too many people that can coast for years. Coasting is just dying real, real slowly. Only world I knew for 50+ years. Seems like work is just a ways to an end for many, that also have a very active life outside of work. Listening to some they put a great deal of effort into goals of every day life, if not on the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted February 22, 2021 Share #29 Posted February 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, sheep_herder said: Only world I knew for 50+ years. Seems like work is just a ways to an end for many, that also have a very active life outside of work. Listening to some they put a great deal of effort into goals of every day life, if not on the job. I always have 3 active goals. One personal growth goal, one health goal and one professional growth goal. They have different target dates based on the goal. I document them, track daily activity against them (most days) and have milestones set to reach them. The documents reside in a binder on my desk. When I complete a goal from on of the three categories I create another for that category. I also have 90 day goals (we call Rocks - from the Ten Rockefeller Habits by Vern Harnish) that we set as a leadership team that need to be completed each quarter. They are designed to help us reach our business goals as a team and we are accountable for them weekly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share #30 Posted February 23, 2021 I'm going in with this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted February 23, 2021 Share #31 Posted February 23, 2021 19 hours ago, Kzoo said: I always have 3 active goals. One personal growth goal, one health goal and one professional growth goal. They have different target dates based on the goal. I document them, track daily activity against them (most days) and have milestones set to reach them. The documents reside in a binder on my desk. When I complete a goal from on of the three categories I create another for that category. I also have 90 day goals (we call Rocks - from the Ten Rockefeller Habits by Vern Harnish) that we set as a leadership team that need to be completed each quarter. They are designed to help us reach our business goals as a team and we are accountable for them weekly. You are a disciplined sumbitch! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted February 23, 2021 Share #32 Posted February 23, 2021 3 hours ago, bikeman564™ said: I'm going in with this Wally is so awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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