Zealot Posted August 25, 2014 Share #51 Posted August 25, 2014 I think 2Far would have mentioned it by now if he didn't take the BP reading. Maybe, maybe not. But until he does interject, it's an assumption.If the BP was that low, the employee shouldn't be driving. Probably correct. But the employer isn't responsible for how an individual gets to and from work unless the individual is driving a company vehicle, is compensated for drive time or conducting company business in route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 25, 2014 Share #52 Posted August 25, 2014 Sox is right and the rest of the world is wrong. finally you are starting to make sense. I'm not saying 2 Far should have let him keep working, just that he should have handled it differently. I also don't believe he has legal grounds to require the employee to get a doctor's release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted August 25, 2014 Share #53 Posted August 25, 2014 finally you are starting to make sense. I'm not saying 2 Far should have let him keep working, just that he should have handled it differently. I also don't believe he has legal grounds to require the employee to get a doctor's release. I forgot to add the "Dripping with Sarcasm emoticon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 25, 2014 Share #54 Posted August 25, 2014 the employer isn't responsible for how an individual gets to and from work unless the individual is driving a company vehicle, is compensated for drive time or conducting company business in route.No he may not be legally responsible, part of being a good boss is looking out for the employee. I know that if I sent an employee home that was lightheaded, and they got into a car accident because of it, I'd feel pretty bad about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted August 25, 2014 Share #55 Posted August 25, 2014 No he may not be legally responsible, part of being a good boss is looking out for the employee. But now you are determining what a "good boss" is. Sorry, that's very subjective. And anyone can argue any thing when it's subjective. I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do. I am saying that it wasn't 2Far's responsibility to get his employee home.I know that if I sent an employee home that was lightheaded, and they got into a car accident because of it, I'd feel pretty bad about it. Great. I might too. But because you may do that doesn't mean everyone should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 25, 2014 Share #56 Posted August 25, 2014 But now you are determining what a "good boss" is. Sorry, that's very subjective. And anyone can argue any thing when it's subjective. I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do. I am saying that it wasn't 2Far's responsibility to get his employee home. Great. I might too. But because you may do that doesn't mean everyone should.All I've been saying all along is that 2Far could have handled this better. I don't think he has the legal right to demand a doctor's release to return to work, but I could be wrong. None of us are attorney familiar with Texas labor laws, so who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted August 25, 2014 Share #57 Posted August 25, 2014 I believe 2far did the right thing.. even if he did not stay at a holiday inn express. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted August 25, 2014 Share #58 Posted August 25, 2014 All I've been saying all along is that 2Far could have handled this better. I don't think he has the legal right to demand a doctor's release to return to work, but I could be wrong. None of us are attorney familiar with Texas labor laws, so who knows? Texas has no labor laws. They stop just on the other side of Rio Grande to the south and the Red River to the north. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Garcia Posted August 25, 2014 Share #59 Posted August 25, 2014 I'm still dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted August 25, 2014 Share #60 Posted August 25, 2014 Texas has no labor laws. They stop just on the other side of Rio Grande to the south and the Red River to the north. I figured ya'll just took the wounded or sink employee out back and shot em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted August 25, 2014 Share #61 Posted August 25, 2014 I'm still dead. Lier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted August 25, 2014 Share #62 Posted August 25, 2014 I figured ya'll just took the wounded or sink employee out back and shot em The sink employees seldom make the commute from the labor pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Garcia Posted August 25, 2014 Share #63 Posted August 25, 2014 Lier No, really. I am. The world is a better place now without me playing that garbage some folks called music. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted August 25, 2014 Share #64 Posted August 25, 2014 No, really. I am. The world is a better place now without me playing that garbage some folks called music. You know how you can tell when a Grateful Dead song ends? You can't! Those things go on forever and then some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted August 25, 2014 Share #65 Posted August 25, 2014 The sink employees seldom make the commute from the labor pool. Sink…. pool, I see what you did there. Wait, No I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted August 25, 2014 Share #66 Posted August 25, 2014 Sink…. pool, I see what you did there. Wait, No I don't. Get SW to splain it to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted August 25, 2014 Share #67 Posted August 25, 2014 The sink employees seldom make the commute from the labor pool. A wounded horse will never make it to water.. No, really. I am. The world is a better place now without me playing that garbage some folks called music. But the dirty hippies need you... how will they stay dirty and dumb without you really being here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Garcia Posted August 25, 2014 Share #68 Posted August 25, 2014 But the dirty hippies need you... how will they stay dirty and dumb without you really being here? Oh, they don't have any brain cells left, so they just continue to be dirty and dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted August 25, 2014 Share #69 Posted August 25, 2014 A wounded horse will never make it to water.. But the dirty hippies need you... how will they stay dirty and dumb without you really being here? The dirty hippies have Phish now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted August 25, 2014 Share #70 Posted August 25, 2014 The dirty hippies have Fish now. Did the long haired dude in the robe and sandals serve fish and bread again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted August 25, 2014 Share #71 Posted August 25, 2014 Oh, they don't have any brain cells left, so they just continue to be dirty and dumb. this is true... but we could not have something to make fun of.... The dirty hippies have Fish now. True, but so does Jsharr... we all know it has STD's where hippies are on LSD, and might contract STD's or HIV... should we just cut the music out of the equation and just send the hippies to play with jsharr's dead bass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted August 25, 2014 Share #72 Posted August 25, 2014 Did the long haired dude in the robe and sandals serve fish and bread again? it was kind of like sushi....I don't really like sushi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted August 25, 2014 Share #73 Posted August 25, 2014 this is true... but we could not have something to make fun of.... True, but so does Jsharr... we all know it has STD's where hippies are on LSD, and might contract STD's or HIV... should we just cut the music out of the equation and just send the hippies to play with jsharr's dead bass? why do you hate dead bass so? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Garcia Posted August 25, 2014 Share #74 Posted August 25, 2014 this is true... but we could not have something to make fun of.... You can still make fun of burn out hippies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted August 25, 2014 Share #75 Posted August 25, 2014 You can still make fun of burn out hippies. What fun is that??? They would not understand a joke if it washed through their nappy hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted August 25, 2014 Share #76 Posted August 25, 2014 No he may not be legally responsible, part of being a good boss is looking out for the employee. I know that if I sent an employee home that was lightheaded, and they got into a car accident because of it, I'd feel pretty bad about it. Let's take this one further. If 2Far insists on taking the employee to a Med Center, and the employee refuses, 2Far is violating the person's rights. If 2Far takes the employee to a Med Center and gets involved in an accident on the way there, 2Far could be liable --and possibly the employer. If I was the employee, and had a few brain cells, it might be *my* responsibility due to the way I'm feeling to call a friend or relative, and see if I could get a ride home or to a Med Center or my doctor where I got the BP medication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 26, 2014 Share #77 Posted August 26, 2014 Let's take this one further. If 2Far insists on taking the employee to a Med Center, and the employee refuses, 2Far is violating the person's rights.what rights would he be violating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted August 26, 2014 Share #78 Posted August 26, 2014 what rights would he be violating? Let's start here: http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/false-imprisonment.html "In fact, any person who intentionally restricts another's freedom of movement without their consent (and without legal justification) may be liable for false imprisonment, which is both a crime and a civil wrong. It can occur in a room, on the streets, or even in a moving vehicle—just as long as the subject is unable to move freely, against his or her will." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted August 26, 2014 Share #79 Posted August 26, 2014 Here comes the next question, striking off on a tangent from LW's logical response and only peripherally related to the topic (if at all), posed merely to string the thread out into a tiresome level of detail until people forget the inanity posted several pages back. Ready? Wait for it... Wait... Wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted August 26, 2014 Share #80 Posted August 26, 2014 My blood pressure is usually in the 90/60 range. Sometimes I get the sensation that I'm tipping over when I'm not. I can't imagine it getting any lower. I hope your man is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 26, 2014 Share #81 Posted August 26, 2014 Here comes the next question, striking off on a tangent from LW's logical response and only peripherally related to the topic (if at all), posed merely to string the thread out into a tiresome level of detail until people forget the inanity posted several pages back. Ready? Wait for it... Wait... Wait... This is turning into an epg thread! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted August 26, 2014 Share #82 Posted August 26, 2014 This is turning into an epg thread! Yes. I think 2Far did everything correctly, anyone who thinks otherwise should go home until they have proper clearance to return. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Garcia Posted August 26, 2014 Share #83 Posted August 26, 2014 Guess what..... I'm still dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted August 26, 2014 Share #84 Posted August 26, 2014 Is this shit still going on? Just shoot the poor shmuck and put him out of our misery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 26, 2014 Share #85 Posted August 26, 2014 Is this shit still going on? Just shoot the poor shmuck and put him out of our misery.2far still handled this the wrong way. Texas is a right to work state, so he should have just fired the employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted August 26, 2014 Share #86 Posted August 26, 2014 I've noticed, in my many years on this planet, that those who are the loudest and most boisterous are almost always the ones who are the most wrong about many things. They also refuse to back down from their positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 26, 2014 Share #87 Posted August 26, 2014 I'm typing this very quietly, so you can't be referring to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 26, 2014 Share #88 Posted August 26, 2014 I've noticed, in my many years on this planet, that those who are the loudest and most boisterous are almost always the ones who are the most wrong about many things. They also refuse to back down from their positions.you keep replying to this thread, and refuse to back down from your position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted August 26, 2014 Share #89 Posted August 26, 2014 you keep replying to this thread, and refuse to back down from your position. But I'm not being boisterous...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted August 26, 2014 Share #90 Posted August 26, 2014 But I'm not being boisterous...... unless they changed the definition of boisterous, neither am I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopped Liver Posted August 26, 2014 Share #91 Posted August 26, 2014 unless they changed the definition of boisterous, neither am I. my hangover says you are....now quit typing so loudly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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