goldendesign Posted June 15, 2021 Share #1 Posted June 15, 2021 Trying to source a 9sp set of shifters for the bike has been a trial. The bike rolls with ST-5510 (105s) and 105(f) and Ultegra(R) derailleurs. Finding a compatible 2x9 brifter set has been a challenge. I was hoping the internets favorite China brand, MicroNew, would work since their about $150 for a new set with similar performance and smoothness in shifting as a modern era Sora-3000 but that seems to be crushed as all shop techs I've spoken with say the MicroNew acts like the Sora-3000 because it is a clone and that 9spd groupset is a different breed than the old generation 9spd. ie: a no go. I've bid on: 105s $220 and lost out at $250 Ultegra (st-6510) went for $200, I really really should have upped my bid Dura Ace ST-7700, starting bid was $79, no returns, claimed it shifted fine, looked brand new but winning auctions show those going for over $300 for the pair. I was hesitant to throw too much money and lost at $110 There is a glut of very pretty sets being sold overseas in Italy, Germany and the UK but not sure I should go that route. Good thing is I can wait, not going riding anytime soon. There is a claim the 10spd generation will work with the 9spd using Shimano's "Alternate" routing configuration but there is still internet talk about this not being ideal. Course at this point; I may have to take a bit of wonky shifting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 15, 2021 Share #2 Posted June 15, 2021 Just now, goldendesign said: Good thing is I can wait, not going riding anytime soon. There is a claim the 10spd generation will work with the 9spd using Shimano's "Alternate" routing configuration but there is still internet talk about this not being ideal. Course at this point; I may have to take a bit of wonky shifting. That's the general problem with the darn internet - many opinions about the same thing that have mixed results. My feeling is a good LBS would likely know what needs to be done, but when I look it over on the web, I see all sorts of differing answers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 15, 2021 Share #3 Posted June 15, 2021 I have had very good luck buying from European shops. You might take a look at Chain Reaction Cycles in Ireland to see what they have. edit: Never mind. They've gone upscale and don't even sell Shimano any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted June 15, 2021 Share #4 Posted June 15, 2021 No real input other than to say I find the rebuild & challenges sourcing parts interesting. @goldendesign please keep us posted on the progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted June 15, 2021 Share #5 Posted June 15, 2021 Inexpensive and bulletproof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldendesign Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share #6 Posted June 15, 2021 Look at these hamburger shifters: Buy it now for $179, the hoods are a sticky mess, the covers are missing and in general their trash. Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldendesign Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted June 15, 2021 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16C3Rz6qmzmurSNd-L3IeMSFukkBFV6D1DRbfS59EDrE/edit#gid=965182040 This is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted June 15, 2021 Share #8 Posted June 15, 2021 I bet these would work. https://www.microshift.com/models/sb-r492/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 15, 2021 Share #9 Posted June 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, goldendesign said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16C3Rz6qmzmurSNd-L3IeMSFukkBFV6D1DRbfS59EDrE/edit#gid=965182040 This is awesome I believe that Sora 3000 is standard 9 speed compatible and as technology flows down hill they are probably at least Tiagra quality perhaps even 105. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 15, 2021 Share #10 Posted June 15, 2021 I second the MicroShift R 9 speed that Dennis posted. https://www.microshift.com/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldendesign Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share #11 Posted June 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: I believe that Sora 3000 is standard 9 speed compatible and as technology flows down hill they are probably at least Tiagra quality perhaps even 105. There are plenty of forums where this is an argument. I have now called three different LBS's, two where I know they are extremely competent and I;ve done work with, and they confirm that the pull ratio is very very close and they put the "equivalent" level at a 105 of my generation. Now to add that to my Ebay web scrape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted June 15, 2021 Share #12 Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jsharr said: I second the MicroShift R 9 speed that Dennis posted. https://www.microshift.com/ Compatible with Shimano 9 speed road derailleurs $70 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted June 15, 2021 Share #13 Posted June 15, 2021 Do none of the mail order shops have the real shifter you need? Not sure why you would mess with ebay otherwise in regards to a shifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 15, 2021 Share #14 Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, goldendesign said: There are plenty of forums where this is an argument. I have now called three different LBS's, two where I know they are extremely competent and I;ve done work with, and they confirm that the pull ratio is very very close and they put the "equivalent" level at a 105 of my generation. Now to add that to my Ebay web scrape If you look at your chart, there is only one Shimano 9 speed line. That seems to be a clue. You can find then new in many stores but they tend to sell as single levers right or left and the regular price seems to be $129 per. I believe you can do better with sales or coupons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldendesign Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share #15 Posted June 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: Do none of the mail order shops have the real shifter you need I have a 15 year old drivetrain. Originally I was going to match vintage but this is proving unpossible. Online, before the handy dandy chart and some more research, said the newer 9spds were incompatible. This is wrong it seems. 1 hour ago, denniS said: Compatible with Shimano 9 speed road derailleurs I like Microshift and will probably buy though their about $150 for the pair from what I can see. Can't seem to find a pair in stock. I can find the Aliexpress knockoffs for $50 a pair. Sora S3000 9spds are about $150 for the pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted June 15, 2021 Share #16 Posted June 15, 2021 3 hours ago, goldendesign said: Trying to source a 9sp set of shifters for the bike has been a trial. The bike rolls with ST-5510 (105s) and 105(f) and Ultegra(R) derailleurs. Finding a compatible 2x9 brifter set has been a challenge. I was hoping the internets favorite China brand, MicroNew, would work since their about $150 for a new set with similar performance and smoothness in shifting as a modern era Sora-3000 but that seems to be crushed as all shop techs I've spoken with say the MicroNew acts like the Sora-3000 because it is a clone and that 9spd groupset is a different breed than the old generation 9spd. ie: a no go. I've bid on: 105s $220 and lost out at $250 Ultegra (st-6510) went for $200, I really really should have upped my bid Dura Ace ST-7700, starting bid was $79, no returns, claimed it shifted fine, looked brand new but winning auctions show those going for over $300 for the pair. I was hesitant to throw too much money and lost at $110 There is a glut of very pretty sets being sold overseas in Italy, Germany and the UK but not sure I should go that route. Good thing is I can wait, not going riding anytime soon. There is a claim the 10spd generation will work with the 9spd using Shimano's "Alternate" routing configuration but there is still internet talk about this not being ideal. Course at this point; I may have to take a bit of wonky shifting. When I first started bidding on eBay, a cousin's husband - the cousin who died in Feb. of COVID - told me to wait until the last minute to bid. He told me to figure out how much it was worth to me and make that bid or set up automatic bidding with that max. if it is something I really want. If you bid early, it allows other bidders time to reconsider their max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted June 15, 2021 Share #17 Posted June 15, 2021 52 minutes ago, goldendesign said: I have a 15 year old drivetrain. Originally I was going to match vintage but this is proving unpossible. Ah, I see an easy solution - get a new bike. You are welcome! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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