Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Share #1 Posted June 22, 2021 22,500$ for my 2014 F 150. This is the Ford dealer that I have it serviced at. This is an XLT truck (middle of the road, not base not loaded). It has 178K miles on it. I bought it 6 years ago with 20K miles on it for 31,000. In my mind this truck is worth 10-12 thousand dollars. I really like this truck and it's perfect for our softball weekends, but dang. 22k is really making it hard for me not to go sell it right away. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge ★ Posted June 22, 2021 Share #2 Posted June 22, 2021 I feel ya. I'm paying off the Colorado today. My salesman said I could probably get 27 on trade. I'm in the market. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 22, 2021 Share #3 Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: 22,500$ for my 2014 F 150. This is the Ford dealer that I have it serviced at. This is an XLT truck (middle of the road, not base not loaded). It has 178K miles on it. I bought it 6 years ago with 20K miles on it for 31,000. In my mind this truck is worth 10-12 thousand dollars. I really like this truck and it's perfect for our softball weekends, but dang. 22k is really making it hard for me not to go sell it right away. what would you replace it with? Used truck prices are up 44% from one article I read recently. Find a replacement first. Make sure you can afford this move. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share #4 Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, smudge said: I feel ya. I'm paying off the Colorado today. My salesman said I could probably get 27 on trade. I'm in the market. Right? I mean I have the f350 too. I don't NEED two trucks. I feel like it might be smart to take advantage. Get something more economical to drive to work. But we use the 150 for softball tourneys. It is so nice to have extra room. And I know that it's in great shape and very well maintainted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share #5 Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, jsharr said: what would you replace it with? Used truck prices are up 44% from one article I read recently. Find a replacement first. Make sure you can afford this move. I don't know? Something with far less miles and more economical? Not sure what I would want. But not taking on a payment. It would have to be even trade or cash in my pocket. I have the other truck to do truck shit with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge ★ Posted June 22, 2021 Share #6 Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: Right? I mean I have the f350 too. I don't NEED two trucks. I feel like it might be smart to take advantage. Get something more economical to drive to work. But we use the 150 for softball tourneys. It is so nice to have extra room. And I know that it's in great shape and very well maintainted. Dilemma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, jsharr said: what would you replace it with? Used truck prices are up 44% from one article I read recently. Find a replacement first. Make sure you can afford this move. I guess the question is.... do I trade something well maintained with no known issues to go to something that I have no idea how it's been maintained? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share #8 Posted June 22, 2021 Just now, smudge said: Dilemma You're a huge help. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 22, 2021 Share #9 Posted June 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Parr8hed said: I guess the question is.... do I trade something well maintained with no known issues to go to something that I have no idea how it's been maintained? Do some looking. Find a well maintained fun car with some room? Then tell them you want cash on the barrel head and go buy it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share #10 Posted June 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, jsharr said: what would you replace it with? Used truck prices are up 44% from one article I read recently. Find a replacement first. Make sure you can afford this move. OR do I trade both trucks? The 350 has to be worth close to 30 if my 150 is worth 22,500. Maybe get a newer f250 diesel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge ★ Posted June 22, 2021 Share #11 Posted June 22, 2021 The plot thickens... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 22, 2021 Share #12 Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, smudge said: The plot thickens... Again super helpful advice. Maybe next post the smiley eating popcorn? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 22, 2021 Share #13 Posted June 22, 2021 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 22, 2021 Share #14 Posted June 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: OR do I trade both trucks? The 350 has to be worth close to 30 if my 150 is worth 22,500. Maybe get a newer f250 diesel? Again, need to know service history, etc. Maybe find a fun cross over of some sort. Acura? Seems $22k would buy a lot of used car. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted June 22, 2021 Share #15 Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: OR do I trade both trucks? The 350 has to be worth close to 30 if my 150 is worth 22,500. Maybe get a newer f250 diesel? Yes... In a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share #16 Posted June 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Yes... In a heartbeat. Problem is that I need a superduty. If I trade the superduty in, it has to be replaced with another superduty. The prices on them are crazy right now if you can find one. So I am probably looking at around 50K dollars to spend. That puts me into a 18 with 100K miles on it. Might be worth it? But then I drive a superduty to work every day. Not horrible, but not as nice as my half ton. Shit, I don't know what to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share #17 Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, jsharr said: Again, need to know service history, etc. Maybe find a fun cross over of some sort. Acura? Seems $22k would buy a lot of used car. Maybe even a fun to drive little hatchback? IDK? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 22, 2021 Share #18 Posted June 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, jsharr said: Again, need to know service history, etc. Maybe find a fun cross over of some sort. Acura? Seems $22k would buy a lot of used car. Like @denniS 2017 Subaru Crosstrek, or something special from the Plano AudiNation! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted June 22, 2021 Share #19 Posted June 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, smudge said: I feel ya. I'm paying off the Colorado today. My salesman said I could probably get 27 on trade. I'm in the market. year, miles? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share #20 Posted June 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Like @denniS 2017 Subaru Crosstrek, or something special from the Plano AudiNation! Yep! I would do that. (depending on miles?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted June 22, 2021 Share #21 Posted June 22, 2021 WWPD (What Would Petite Do)? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted June 22, 2021 Share #22 Posted June 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: I don't NEED two trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jsharr ★ Posted June 22, 2021 Popular Post Share #23 Posted June 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, JerrySTL said: WWPD (What Would Petite Do)? 2 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted June 22, 2021 Share #24 Posted June 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Parr8hed said: 22,500$ for my 2014 F 150. This is the Ford dealer that I have it serviced at. This is an XLT truck (middle of the road, not base not loaded). It has 178K miles on it. I bought it 6 years ago with 20K miles on it for 31,000. In my mind this truck is worth 10-12 thousand dollars. I really like this truck and it's perfect for our softball weekends, but dang. 22k is really making it hard for me not to go sell it right away. What do they want you to buy to replace it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2021 Author Share #25 Posted June 22, 2021 31 minutes ago, MoseySusan said: What do they want you to buy to replace it? That hasn't even been discussed. They just want to buy my truck. Well, they want to buy ANY truck right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted June 22, 2021 Share #26 Posted June 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: That hasn't even been discussed. They just want to buy my truck. Well, they want to buy ANY truck right now. So then, how would your quality of life change without this truck? It looks like you’re not going to replace it easily. But if you’re trading a lesser quality of life for a better one, it makes the decision easier. We traded our ‘85 BMW 325 for the Odyssey van, and even though it was hard to let go of the zippy drive and fun of the BMW, we’ve been to every state and ridden bikes in very cool places because of the van. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted June 22, 2021 Share #27 Posted June 22, 2021 Geez, just sell, you won't get 12K for it in a year or so when backlogs (hopefully) get sorted out. Tough it out for a year, then spend your extra 10K on hookers and blow or some new frankentruck somewhere. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted June 22, 2021 Share #28 Posted June 22, 2021 If you still want a truck, I'd probably keep the one that you prefer. Or else make sure you know exactly what you're getting to replace it, and how much that will cost. The same shortage that is driving such a great trade in, will make it hard to replace. But if you don't need or want both trucks, now is a good time to cash out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge ★ Posted June 23, 2021 Share #29 Posted June 23, 2021 10 hours ago, bikeman564™ said: year, miles? 2016. Umm, almost 67,000? Black Z71 crew cab short bed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupw Posted June 23, 2021 Share #30 Posted June 23, 2021 Sell the F150. Keep the F350 for truck times. Get a Mazda3 as a fun to drive commuter that will save $$ on fuel as well and do the light/medium family tasks with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share #31 Posted June 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, groupw said: Sell the F150. Keep the F350 for truck times. Get a Mazda3 as a fun to drive commuter that will save $$ on fuel as well and do the light/medium family tasks with it. Honestly I was really thinking about this exact thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted June 23, 2021 Share #32 Posted June 23, 2021 38 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: Honestly I was really thinking about this exact thing. Also consider what happens when gas goes over $4/gallon and stays that way once everybody and their brother produce and incentivize electric vehicles, which is all conspiring to happen now. If gas seeks a higher threshold and stays there due to government interference and EVs flood the market, then you could and probably will be fucked in a green new deal style and your truck becomes expensive scrap in the view of the market. Sell now, says a dumb ass regarding these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 23, 2021 Share #33 Posted June 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: Also consider what happens when gas goes over $4/gallon and stays that way once everybody and their brother produce and incentivize electric vehicles, which is all conspiring to happen now. If gas seeks a higher threshold and stays there due to government interference and EVs flood the market, then you could and probably will be fucked in a green new deal style and your truck becomes expensive scrap in the view of the market. Sell now, says a dumb ass regarding these things. What about the cost of water? Since it takes more water than a family uses in a year to put out a flaming Tesla or Volt or EMustang, water is going to be more scarce than it already is and you know that these thing will start crashing into each other, taking twice as much water. I bet it will cost $250k in water to put out a flaming Tesla in Jackson Hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted June 23, 2021 Share #34 Posted June 23, 2021 On 6/22/2021 at 9:25 AM, Parr8hed said: 22,500$ for my 2014 F 150. This is the Ford dealer that I have it serviced at. This is an XLT truck (middle of the road, not base not loaded). It has 178K miles on it. I bought it 6 years ago with 20K miles on it for 31,000. In my mind this truck is worth 10-12 thousand dollars. I really like this truck and it's perfect for our softball weekends, but dang. 22k is really making it hard for me not to go sell it right away. At this time, a replacement vehicle would likely cost more than any "extra" money you get on the trade in 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 23, 2021 Share #35 Posted June 23, 2021 The reason they are offering you so much is because they can get LOT more for it than the stupid high dollars they're offering you. Since you don't need to replace it right away: Sell it yourself for $28K Wait a year, the truck market will come crashing down, spend that $28K on a much newer truck with far fewer miles. Or buy your own truck back and do the hookers and blow thing with the rest 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted June 23, 2021 Share #36 Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Airehead said: At this time, a replacement vehicle would likely cost more than any "extra" money you get on the trade in This is solid thinking, although he already has an extra truck. This WILL come crashing down like the wrath of dog, too, everyone realizes this is certain. Hey P8, why don’t you just have Emmy take up bowling or somesuch that doesn’t require moving heaven and earth to get to? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 23, 2021 Share #37 Posted June 23, 2021 I found a clean, low mileage Wrangler for you. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted June 23, 2021 Share #38 Posted June 23, 2021 Sell the F150, invest the proceeds and repo the XJ from Gman. Let him ride the bus to school for another year. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 23, 2021 Author Share #39 Posted June 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Old No. 7 said: Sell the F150, invest the proceeds and repo the XJ from Gman. Let him ride the bus to school for another year. I couldn't drive that thing to work every day! There is a reason it was called the "boobie bouncer". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupw Posted June 23, 2021 Share #40 Posted June 23, 2021 5 hours ago, jsharr said: I found a clean, low mileage Wrangler for you. How much? Asking for a friend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted June 23, 2021 Share #41 Posted June 23, 2021 1 hour ago, groupw said: How much? Asking for a friend... Ahh… I get it now. Your friend is a Walrus and you’re the Egg Man. I’ve learned a lot in the last couple of days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted June 24, 2021 Share #42 Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, MoseySusan said: Ahh… I get it now. Your friend is a Walrus and you’re the Egg Man. I’ve learned a lot in the last couple of days. No telling what you might learn, as you spend more time on the Forum. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted June 24, 2021 Share #43 Posted June 24, 2021 On 6/22/2021 at 9:25 AM, Parr8hed said: 22,500$ for my 2014 F 150 The dealer low-balled the offer. The shoe is on the other foot now. It's not you wanting a vehicle the dealer has, it's the dealer wanting a vehicle you have. If you're considering selling your truck to the dealer, turn the tables on him. Make a ridiculously high counter-offer and see what he says. If he disappears, he's not serious about buying your truck. If he makes a counter-offer you've instantly got more money for the truck should you decide to sell. Then you can find out how badly he really wants the truck by countering again. And while you're at it, it might not hurt to shop your truck to some other dealers too. Get them in a bidding war against each other for your truck. If you're unsure about selling the truck, get them to bid until you get your "too-good-to-be-true-can't-refuse" price. You're in no hurry either, as you are in complete control of this situation and - for once - the dealer is entirely at your mercy. Take advantage of that, and drive the hardest, most heartless deal you can conjure. After all, if the situation were reversed it's nothing more that what the dealer would do to you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted June 24, 2021 Share #44 Posted June 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: The dealer low-balled the offer. The shoe is on the other foot now. It's not you wanting a vehicle the dealer has, it's the dealer wanting a vehicle you have. If you're considering selling your truck to the dealer, turn the tables on him. Make a ridiculously high counter-offer and see what he says. If he disappears, he's not serious about buying your truck. If he makes a counter-offer you've instantly got more money for the truck should you decide to sell. Then you can find out how badly he really wants the truck by countering again. And while you're at it, it might not hurt to shop your truck to some other dealers too. Get them in a bidding war against each other for your truck. If you're unsure about selling the truck, get them to bid until you get your "too-good-to-be-true-can't-refuse" price. You're in no hurry either, as you are in complete control of this situation and - for once - the dealer is entirely at your mercy. Take advantage of that, and drive the hardest, most heartless deal you can conjure. After all, if the situation were reversed it's nothing more that what the dealer would do to you. Yeah, do this. When you get a counter offer, scowl thoughtfully for a minute and say that you "have to talk with my manager about this", that should be good for some laughs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted June 24, 2021 Share #45 Posted June 24, 2021 How many years would you like get, problem free, with the 178K-miles F-150 and how many years would you iikely get out of what you'd replace it with? If the cost for the replacement is low for extra years you'll get, then it may be worth it - especially if the new truck has improvements you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 24, 2021 Share #46 Posted June 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Randomguy said: Yeah, do this. When you get a counter offer, scowl thoughtfully for a minute and say that you "have to talk with my manager about this", that should be good for some laughs! Alright, Mr. AutoNation, mind if I call you Auto? Auto, what is gonna take for you leave here with this truck today? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted June 24, 2021 Share #47 Posted June 24, 2021 If you're thinking of selling, consider a private sale. I looked up my car's worth on a few sites. Got what seemed like a fair number for a 2 year old car. That was the trade in price. About 10 grand more for a private sale. Total loss since I bought it was less than 10 grand. You can guess what I paid for it, that would be peanuts, except I'd need a new car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted June 25, 2021 Share #48 Posted June 25, 2021 14 hours ago, Square Wheels said: If you're thinking of selling, consider a private sale. Normally, I think this would be a good idea. Now, though, I think many buyers might not know why the prices are through the roof and most of your time would be spent trying to educate people about why used cars are now costing so much. It sounds like an exercise in futility. I know I would be questioning the sanity of someone selling a truck with 178K miles for more than 10K over bluebook, and would figure you are massively pumping the price because low ballers are still going to offer 9K total for the truck, and so it would be a hagglefest. At all other times, I agree and would sell privately. Now, I would just take it to the dealer and demand gold doubloons as the only form of payment that is acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 25, 2021 Share #49 Posted June 25, 2021 With used car values on the rise, my Chrysler is worth more now than when I bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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