While we'er on the subject of answering unknown callers...

[Kzoo]

The story of me July 4th evening.

I'll leave out all the funs detail about her drinking, and calling 911 and hiding her keys so she couldn't get back on the road and keeping her distracted until the sheriff deputies showed up...

So as my daughter and her boyfriend were leaving our house Monday evening and we were on the driveway saying our goodbyes, a lady shows up, all upset.  She was lost and upset, looking for some guy named Chad that had her bag and phone.  All she wanted was her bag and phone - and directions.  Did I mention she was upset?  She was also sore and bruised from Chad throwing her out of his vehicle the night before.

Well the unknown callers part of the story is, she didn't have a phone so I called the guy she was looking for.  She was too frightened to talk to him - she just wanted her bag and phone.  He happens to own a fairly large local lawn service.  I googled the name she gave me and the number she had matched a number listed for him.  So I called and left him a message, "Hi, this is Kzoo and I'm calling for Gail, she is looking for her bag and phone."  I didn't leave any other details because I didn't figure it was helpful at the time.  I got a call back from Chad, the local businessman, about a half hour later, "Don't you ever F'ing call this number again or I'll F'ing slit your throat."  It was a short conversation.

Gail spent the night in the drunk tank.

 

[Randomguy]

Wow, Chad sounds like loads of fun!

What is his number?  I have an itchy dialing finger, and I would like to make a call or two.  

Oh, before P8 or jsharrt ask, was Gail hot?

[maddmaxx ★]

I'd report that to the police when turning gail over to them.

[Randomguy]

4 minutes ago, maddmaxx said:

I'd report that to the police when turning gail over to them.

This.  The state/municipality should at least investigate the crap out of cases where somebody gets roughed up regardless if someone wants to press charges or not, fearing intimidation from some asshole or other like Chad.

[Kzoo]

12 minutes ago, maddmaxx said:

I'd report that to the police when turning gail over to them.

It was mentioned.

 

[Zealot]

While irritating, threats like that do not incur police activity. I had a situation once where a guy threatened to kill me for helping his girlfriend. Long story. I asked the state police if there was anything to do. They said nope. I said OK, I’ll take care of it. 

[Kzoo]

2 minutes ago, Zealot said:

While irritating, threats like that do not incur police activity. I had a situation once where a guy threatened to kill me for helping his girlfriend. Long story. I asked the state police if there was anything to do. They said nope. I said OK, I’ll take care of it. 

Yeah, I just blocked his number.  I was shocked that a guy with business trucks running all over the county might start a conversation in a slightly more civil manner.  WoKzoo was more concerned with the threat than me.  I know when he lives.  I know where he parks his business trucks at night.  He has no idea who I am.  I've thought about dropping a note in his mailbox asking him if he knew who's throat he wanted to slit.

I was just the messenger...

 

 

[Zealot]

8 minutes ago, Kzoo said:

I was just the messenger...

 

 

😉 

[Airehead]

Wow, people are just plain nuts

[Thaddeus Kosciuszko]

50 minutes ago, Airehead said:

Wow, people are just plain nuts

He's simply following a pattern that's worked for him before; a typical pattern most bullies use to get their way because it works.  It's not the first time he's said such words, and it won't be the last.  Because most people he deals with either try to be 'nice' or don't want the problems of getting involved..  I guess he knows, too, that such threats aren't actionable by the police, and he knows that most people do not know that. 

As for Kzoo, you may be just the messenger, but you might want to check to see if there are additional obligations you might have incurred for reporting suspected domestic abuse.  Laws vary from state to state, and to extend depend upon what profession you're in, but in same cases a person who suspects domestic abuse - particularly in the case where a woman has been abused - may have to report it or face penalties for not doing so.

It's not likely I would think, but I'd suggest it may be worth some investigation so you don't wind up getting punished for trying to do a good deed.

[maddmaxx ★]

1 hour ago, Kzoo said:

Yeah, I just blocked his number.  I was shocked that a guy with business trucks running all over the county might start a conversation in a slightly more civil manner.  WoKzoo was more concerned with the threat than me.  I know when he lives.  I know where he parks his business trucks at night.  He has no idea who I am.  I've thought about dropping a note in his mailbox asking him if he knew who's throat he wanted to slit.

I was just the messenger...

 

 

Be nice

Till it's time to not be nice.

[Kzoo]

3 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said:

He's simply following a pattern that's worked for him before; a typical pattern most bullies use to get their way because it works.  It's not the first time he's said such words, and it won't be the last.  Because most people he deals with either try to be 'nice' or don't want the problems of getting involved..  I guess he knows, too, that such threats aren't actionable by the police, and he knows that most people do not know that. 

As for Kzoo, you may be just the messenger, but you might want to check to see if there are additional obligations you might have incurred for reporting suspected domestic abuse.  Laws vary from state to state, and to extend depend upon what profession you're in, but in same cases a person who suspects domestic abuse - particularly in the case where a woman has been abused - may have to report it or face penalties for not doing so.

It's not likely I would think, but I'd suggest it may be worth some investigation so you don't wind up getting punished for trying to do a good deed.

Daughter's BF (the one with the new Stumpjumper) is the one that called 911 and he's the one that took her keys and gave the report to the police.  They called him back that night for details they needed for a search warrant for her jeep.  Technically she was parked along the side of the road with BF and I when they arrived.  He told the sheriff deputies that she said Chad bruised her so they had/have that detail.

[MoseySusan]

Time to just back away. 

[Kzoo]

2 minutes ago, MoseySusan said:

Time to just back away. 

Yes

[Zealot]

32 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said:

He's simply following a pattern that's worked for him before; a typical pattern most bullies use to get their way because it works.  It's not the first time he's said such words, and it won't be the last.  Because most people he deals with either try to be 'nice' or don't want the problems of getting involved..  I guess he knows, too, that such threats aren't actionable by the police, and he knows that most people do not know that. 

As for Kzoo, you may be just the messenger, but you might want to check to see if there are additional obligations you might have incurred for reporting suspected domestic abuse.  Laws vary from state to state, and to extend depend upon what profession you're in, but in same cases a person who suspects domestic abuse - particularly in the case where a woman has been abused - may have to report it or face penalties for not doing so.

It's not likely I would think, but I'd suggest it may be worth some investigation so you don't wind up getting punished for trying to do a good deed.

Many years ago in my military days, I reported a possible domestic abuse of a woman and a child. Was working in base housing installing peak energy conservation switches for the ac units and hot water heaters. When I entered one unit, the lady who opened the door was badly bruised and so was her young daughter.  I called the guy working with me to come over to the unit. He did. We said nothing, but when we left I inquired, “You thinking what I’m thinking?” He concurred, so we went to the SPs. 

He and I were escorted to separate interrogation rooms, locked in, questioned and left sitting for hours. 

When one SP came back, I told him, “why are you holding us? We’re trying to  report a possible crime and we are being treated like we did something wrong? If you’re not charging me with anything, you need to let me go.”

He did. 

I was young, trying to do ‘the right thing’  and hopeful that somehow reporting this would help this woman and her child. 

Months later I read in the base paper that the man of that house, an Army NCO, was arrested and eventually kicked out of family housing for domestic violence. 

At least the SPs had our written statements when they acted.