Popular Post Wilbur ★ Posted November 9, 2021 Popular Post Share #1 Posted November 9, 2021 The one who bought a family airplane but then had a girlfriend which caused a divorce and the inevitable halving of his wealth and sale of the airplane? The guy I had trouble making a decision on leaving when the bank came knocking at my door? Well, I have been working on buying him a new aircraft now that the marital dust has settled, his girlfriend became wife #2 and they have an infant an airplane is important. Long story short, we are in the final stages of acquisition and crew is becoming his focus. He just sent me a formal offer for employment but I would have to relocate to the Cayman Islands. This raises all kinds of family issues and medical issues for WoWilbur but he is amenable to a 5 year contract at nearly double my current salary. What would you do? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 9, 2021 Share #2 Posted November 9, 2021 I really don’t know what I would do except pray about it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted November 9, 2021 Popular Post Share #3 Posted November 9, 2021 I’d live in the Cayman Islands for five years. That’s what I’d do. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 9, 2021 Share #4 Posted November 9, 2021 You mention medical issues, are the Cayman Islands lacking good medical facilities? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Airehead Posted November 9, 2021 Popular Post Share #5 Posted November 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Wilbur said: What would you do? Hire Einstein 4 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted November 9, 2021 Share #6 Posted November 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Old No. 7 said: I’d live in the Cayman Islands for five years. That’s what I’d do. Even if the wife stayed in Canada 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted November 9, 2021 Share #7 Posted November 9, 2021 Seriously, tough question. Have you amde a list of pros and cons? This is what @kirby would do 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted November 9, 2021 Author Share #8 Posted November 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, Longjohn said: You mention medical issues, are the Cayman Islands lacking good medical facilities? No, they have great facilities but you are subject to purchasing insurance and she has a great rapport with her current docs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Far ★ Posted November 9, 2021 Share #9 Posted November 9, 2021 11 minutes ago, Airehead said: Even if the wife stayed in Canada Especially if the wife stayed in Canada! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 9, 2021 Share #10 Posted November 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Airehead said: Seriously, tough question. Have you amde a list of pros and cons? This is what @kirby would do Yes, I would think logically about it. It would get you out of that hellhole and into a different hellhole. Taxation-wise, would you be a resident of what country, and would Canada still be taking taxes? Would the family bitch, bitch, bitch? Do you have guarantees at your current place? How is the contract guaranteed? How would you collect if he reneges? Any contract for a pilot over a certain age would be very nice indeed, that would be a factor. It is nice to have options. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted November 10, 2021 Share #11 Posted November 10, 2021 Is there a place to park that sailboat you've been talking about.... Could it be part of the deal... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted November 10, 2021 Share #12 Posted November 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, Wilbur said: No, they have great facilities but you are subject to purchasing insurance and she has a great rapport with her current docs. Or your boss should allow you as part of the benefit pkg., fly her back to Canada to see doctors. They know her condition, etc. One of your daughters and her hubby just continues to look after Canadian home. It almost sounds to be too good to be true, Wilbur. What would the Cayman Islands community be like for your wife if she lived there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AirwickWithCheese Posted November 10, 2021 Popular Post Share #13 Posted November 10, 2021 51 minutes ago, Wilbur said: What would you do? Train Cheese on flight simulator, fake ID, keep 1/2 of money. 2 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted November 10, 2021 Share #14 Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, SamWithCheese said: Train Cheese on flight simulator, fake ID, keep 1/2 of money. Brilliant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Share #15 Posted November 10, 2021 What does your wife think you should do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wilbur ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Author Popular Post Share #16 Posted November 10, 2021 Just now, Longjohn said: What does your wife think you should do? Well, she would be giving up the company of here kids here and moving to an island where she has no friends and no support system. I on th other hand would be taking a job that would keep me away from her about 200 days per year. In her words, "she is the one moving to the Caymans". It would also be difficult to maintain my aircraft sales clients from the Caymans. To put things in perspective, I double my flying salary with one good aircraft sale. I really liked my former boss and we had great respect for one another. That said, my current boss is also an outstanding and fun guy to be around. We have a very good relationship as well. I have also spent enough time on sandy beaches to last me a lifetime. I don't think it as tough a call as I originally thought. 4 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted November 10, 2021 Share #17 Posted November 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Well, she would be giving up the company of here kids here and moving to an island where she has no friends and no support system. I on th other hand would be taking a job that would keep me away from her about 200 days per year. In her words, "she is the one moving to the Caymans". It would also be difficult to maintain my aircraft sales clients from the Caymans. To put things in perspective, I double my flying salary with one good aircraft sale. I really liked my former boss and we had great respect for one another. That said, my current boss is also an outstanding and fun guy to be around. We have a very good relationship as well. I have also spent enough time on sandy beaches to last me a lifetime. I don't think it as tough a call as I originally thought. Moving to Cayman Islands, yet working 200 days / annually while she moved there, sounds abit off at this point for you 2. It's about time enjoying lots of the greater world...together. So your answer is a gracious refusal to the offer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kirby Posted November 10, 2021 Popular Post Share #18 Posted November 10, 2021 If you have enough money that this wouldn't change your financial security for the future, I would choose the one that was most consistent with how I wanted to live my life. I don't know how often you could get home, but it's hard to get back time away from your kids and grandkids. I'd also consider if there was a major difference in the amount or kind of work you'd need to do - or how much travel is involved. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Share #19 Posted November 10, 2021 I would tell him he provides living space for you and your family in the Cayman Islands you maintain your current houses in Canada and take the deal what time is 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Popular Post Zephyr Posted November 10, 2021 Solution Popular Post Share #20 Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Wilbur said: The one who bought a family airplane but then had a girlfriend which caused a divorce and the inevitable halving of his wealth and sale of the airplane? The guy I had trouble making a decision on leaving when the bank came knocking at my door? Well, I have been working on buying him a new aircraft now that the marital dust has settled, his girlfriend became wife #2 and they have an infant an airplane is important. Long story short, we are in the final stages of acquisition and crew is becoming his focus. He just sent me a formal offer for employment but I would have to relocate to the Cayman Islands. This raises all kinds of family issues and medical issues for WoWilbur but he is amenable to a 5 year contract at nearly double my current salary. What would you do? Take the job, and get a place to stay with a nice guest room because the diving is great in Cayman and I will need a place to stay 3 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted November 10, 2021 Share #21 Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, jsharr said: I would tell him he provides living space for you and your family in the Cayman Islands you maintain your current houses in Canada I could see this working, if only he had some means to fly back and forth between the Cayman Islands and Canada... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted November 10, 2021 Share #22 Posted November 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, Zephyr said: Take the job, and get a place to stay with a nice guest room because the diving is great in Cayman and I will need a place to stay Leech! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Share #23 Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Wilbur said: What would you do? I don't trust anyone who cheats on their spouse. Unless I didn't have any other options, I wouldn't work for such a person. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted November 10, 2021 Share #24 Posted November 10, 2021 That’s a tough call. What would I do? Personally I wouldn’t take a job double my salary if it pulled me away from my family. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Allen ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Popular Post Share #25 Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Wilbur said: To put things in perspective, I double my flying salary with one good aircraft sale. Stay put. In trout lingo, I’d call this one a long distance release. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted November 10, 2021 Share #26 Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Wilbur said: I don't think it as tough a call as I originally thought. Glad we could help 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted November 10, 2021 Share #27 Posted November 10, 2021 Offer to help him set up a team for a fee. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wilbur ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Author Popular Post Share #28 Posted November 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, Airehead said: Offer to help him set up a team for a fee. That is already in place! Momma didn't raise no sleepers! 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted November 10, 2021 Share #29 Posted November 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Airehead said: Offer to help him set up a team for a fee. 5 hours ago, Wilbur said: That is already in place! Momma didn't raise no sleepers! When do I start? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Share #30 Posted November 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, SamWithCheese said: When do I start? What could possibly go wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Share #31 Posted November 10, 2021 Hey Wilbur, have you ever had to use those airplane repo guys? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR46 Posted November 10, 2021 Share #32 Posted November 10, 2021 I wouldn't go I did some research and found this....... 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted November 10, 2021 Share #33 Posted November 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Wilbur said: I have also spent enough time on sandy beaches to last me a lifetime. That's what I was thinking. The locale is the least of factors to consider, IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Share #34 Posted November 10, 2021 You wouldn't have to go far to stash your money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted November 10, 2021 Share #35 Posted November 10, 2021 Use the job offer to leverage more greenbacks from your current boss. Moonlight once a month in the Caymans. win/win/. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted November 10, 2021 Share #36 Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Philander Seabury said: Hey Wilbur, have you ever had to use those airplane repo guys? I love that show. I could do without some of the "created drama" but love the show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share #37 Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Philander Seabury said: Hey Wilbur, have you ever had to use those airplane repo guys? LOL. No. There is a lengthy legal process in repossession of aircraft. Much of the breaking into hangars in the night is just bs. Entertaining though. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Share #38 Posted November 10, 2021 13 hours ago, Wilbur said: The one who bought a family airplane but then had a girlfriend which caused a divorce and the inevitable halving of his wealth and sale of the airplane? The guy I had trouble making a decision on leaving when the bank came knocking at my door? Well, I have been working on buying him a new aircraft now that the marital dust has settled, his girlfriend became wife #2 and they have an infant an airplane is important. Long story short, we are in the final stages of acquisition and crew is becoming his focus. He just sent me a formal offer for employment but I would have to relocate to the Cayman Islands. This raises all kinds of family issues and medical issues for WoWilbur but he is amenable to a 5 year contract at nearly double my current salary. What would you do? If 5 years in the Cayman Islands could be followed by a change of jobs without hurting where you have been without taking the Cayman Islands job, I'd take it. I spent a couple days of a 2017 cruise at the Cayman Islands and loved it - I even checked into housing costs there in case I ever decided to move to the Caribbean (not particularly cheap). The native language is English, the standard of living is advanced compared to Mexico, etc., and you'd have the entire Caribbean area to explore for five years. We visited a turtle hatchery and cruised Hamburger Reef in a semi-submarine - my rotator cuff surgery a couple months earlier prevented me from taking the diving lessons and diving Hamburger Reef so that was still a thrill. I sent friends and relatives postcards from the mini-town of "Hell." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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groupw Posted November 10, 2021 Share #40 Posted November 10, 2021 I have a good friend who lives there. She likes the island life and their careers provide a nice lifestyle. However, it is a small island and you do get “island fever” at times. Their Covid protocols are pretty strict before and after travel making getting off the island not that practical at this time. They plan to move as soon as her husband’s project starts to wrap up and they will retire. They then have to decide where next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Share #41 Posted November 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: I could see this working, if only he had some means to fly back and forth between the Cayman Islands and Canada... He has a dirigible! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 10, 2021 Share #42 Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Parr8hed said: I love that show. I could do without some of the "created drama" but love the show. So does mrs seabury. I catch it once in a while. Seems pretty crazy to fly off in a machine that you have no clue about its condition other than a hurried visual inspection. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted November 10, 2021 Share #43 Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Philander Seabury said: So does mrs seabury. I catch it once in a while. Seems pretty crazy to fly off in a machine that you have no clue about its condition other than a hurried visual inspection. people do it every day! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted November 10, 2021 Share #44 Posted November 10, 2021 12 hours ago, maddmaxx said: You wouldn't have to go far to stash your money. Wonder how it compared to Bermuda as a tax haven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted November 11, 2021 Share #45 Posted November 11, 2021 On 11/9/2021 at 6:43 PM, shootingstar said: Moving to Cayman Islands, yet working 200 days / annually while she moved there, sounds a bit off at this point for you 2. It's about time enjoying lots of the greater world...together. So your answer is a gracious refusal to the offer? That was exactly my thought.. If we moved to a place where WoBG would know very few people, and I'd leave her for a 200 days a year... I'd soon be living there alone. She'd hate me for that. WoBG would be bored out of her mind. Loves the winters here and her friends etc... Then adding medical reasons too... I'd never move there. I'd say thanks... but no thanks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share #46 Posted November 11, 2021 1 hour ago, shootingstar said: Wonder how it compared to Bermuda as a tax haven. Every billionaire I have worked for has a holding company in the Caymans or Barbados. None in Bermuda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 11, 2021 Share #47 Posted November 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Wilbur said: Every billionaire I have worked for has a holding company in the Caymans or Barbados. None in Bermuda. Is he really based there, or is he in Canada much of the time? Next question is that if the brokering business is more lucrative, wth are you piloting still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share #48 Posted November 11, 2021 6 hours ago, Randomguy said: Is he really based there, or is he in Canada much of the time? Next question is that if the brokering business is more lucrative, wth are you piloting still? I still love flying jets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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