Randomguy Posted January 1, 2022 Share #1 Posted January 1, 2022 I was just reading that the new protocols are to not do mouth to mouth, or even butt to butt anymore. --------------------------------- 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wilbur ★ Posted January 1, 2022 Popular Post Share #2 Posted January 1, 2022 Those are pretty old protocols. The latest ones do away with mouth to butt as well. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted January 1, 2022 Share #3 Posted January 1, 2022 I took the course at work decades ago, so no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted January 1, 2022 Share #4 Posted January 1, 2022 Yes, current and sadly have used it until nurses run in with mechanical assists. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted January 1, 2022 Share #5 Posted January 1, 2022 I’m currently certified. They de emphasize the mouth to mouth & focus on compressions & AED’s. Before you had to try to remember number of compressions to breath, now it’s compressions & if you get a breath in great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted January 1, 2022 Share #6 Posted January 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Airehead said: Yes, current and sadly have used it until nurses run in with mechanical assists. Had to use it once myself but my guy didn’t make it…. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted January 1, 2022 Share #7 Posted January 1, 2022 Not a clue. If you and I are alone and you go into some sort of respiratory failure, you will surely die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted January 1, 2022 Share #8 Posted January 1, 2022 I know how to do CPR with or without breaths, though my technique is surely out of date since my last refresher course was in 2002. To be a regular high school sports coach in Maryland, you need to take a college-level course in Care and Prevention of Athletic Injuries, Red Cross Standard First Aid, and annual American Heart Association CPR. We would laugh because the CPR instructions for the Red Cross and American Heart Assn. were DIFFERENT from each other. We had the same instructor for both who would do CPR one day in the summer, First Aid beginning the next and say, "Now I have to teach you Heart Assn. CPR - it's different than what I taught you yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted January 1, 2022 Share #9 Posted January 1, 2022 Note that some U.S. States allow you to be sued if you haven't renewed your CPR card recently and performed it on someone. This has occurred even when someone was saved through CPR or being carried out of a fire when no one else was available to save people. In California some years, a woman sued a man who stopped his car, got out and carried her, unconscious, from her burning car and saved her life. She said he damaged her bad neck! She was awarded $50,000! I don't know if it was appealed. Most states have passed a "Good Samaritan Law" to protect people who try to save others. Several years ago, there was a video of a man who had collapsed and passed out in the middle of a street in Connecticut and passersby ignored him and cars carefully drove around him. ABC News ripped the citizens up. But I commented that Connecticut did NOT have a Good Samaritan Law! In other words, Connecticut's government wanted you to risk being sued for all your worth if you try to help someone without medical credentials. If the same thing had happened in almost every other state on the East Coast, ABC would rightfully be upset - but it should only have been upset at Connecticut's government in that case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted January 1, 2022 Share #10 Posted January 1, 2022 Get a refresher every year. I only hope I remember everything if I ever need to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 1, 2022 Share #11 Posted January 1, 2022 19 minutes ago, MickinMD said: Note that some U.S. States allow you to be sued if you haven't renewed your CPR card recently and performed it on someone. This has occurred even when someone was saved through CPR or being carried out of a fire when no one else was available to save people. In California some years, a woman sued a man who stopped his car, got out and carried her, unconscious, from her burning car and saved her life. She said he damaged her bad neck! She was awarded $50,000! I don't know if it was appealed. Most states have passed a "Good Samaritan Law" to protect people who try to save others. Several years ago, there was a video of a man who had collapsed and passed out in the middle of a street in Connecticut and passersby ignored him and cars carefully drove around him. ABC News ripped the citizens up. But I commented that Connecticut did NOT have a Good Samaritan Law! In other words, Connecticut's government wanted you to risk being sued for all your worth if you try to help someone without medical credentials. If the same thing had happened in almost every other state on the East Coast, ABC would rightfully be upset - but it should only have been upset at Connecticut's government in that case. Yes I know how to do CPR. Will I? Don't know. I've been the first alternate to two bad head on collisions and on bad roll over and in each case after crawling in to assess the situation I deemed it my job to keep the victims calm and to keep the bystanders from attempting to drag the bodies out until professional help arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 1, 2022 Share #12 Posted January 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Randomguy said: I was just reading that the new protocols are to not do mouth to mouth, Hasn't it been a focus on compressions for a LONG time now? It's all about the Bee Gees and Stayin' Alive! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 1, 2022 Share #13 Posted January 1, 2022 I took the course every time it was offered at work. We got new management and they eliminated it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted January 1, 2022 Share #14 Posted January 1, 2022 I’m still actively certified for first aid, CPR, and AED. My certification runs out later this year though. Current employer doesn’t offer the classes to its employees nor do they have AED’s in the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted January 1, 2022 Share #15 Posted January 1, 2022 We teach CPR. The whole 'no breaths' thing came about after an extensive study into CPR cases and people who were trained but did nothing. The #1 reason they didn't? They did not want to put their mouth on random strangers mouths. So they switched focus with the idea that doing compressions with no breath is better than doing nothing at all. But compressions WITH breaths is still the best and most effective option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Far ★ Posted January 1, 2022 Share #16 Posted January 1, 2022 Bump, bump, bump, another one rides the buss, bump, bump, bump… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted January 2, 2022 Share #17 Posted January 2, 2022 When I worked we were trained in CPR and AEDs. I'm sure my certification expired at least 1 year ago. I remember the last class was more about compressions, and breathing if you can. I'll guess not to many people will do that now since the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 2, 2022 Share #18 Posted January 2, 2022 Yes. Recertification every few years with scouts. Carry a breathing shield in my daypack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_photog ★ Posted January 2, 2022 Share #19 Posted January 2, 2022 Just recertified in November. We now have an AED at church and all staff and safety team were required to be recertified even if our old certification wasn't expired. Church paid for the training and wanted everyone on the same schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted January 2, 2022 Share #20 Posted January 2, 2022 Yes. Commercial pilots are trained annually in Canada. I have used it many times early in my career as a medevac pilot. Back then, we picked patients up pretty raw and when workload permitted one of us would go back to assist the medical crew. Lots of time doing compressions and intubation. Helped deliver a couple of babies as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 2, 2022 Share #21 Posted January 2, 2022 9 hours ago, jsharr said: Yes. Recertification every few years with scouts. Carry a breathing shield in my daypack In the 90's there were breathing shields and tubes everywhere because aids. I guess everyone forgot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted January 2, 2022 Share #22 Posted January 2, 2022 I have not been certified for about 3 years now, but I'm guessing it's still about the same as I learnt back then... mostly just chest compressions with an open airway.. hook jumper cable to their nipple and rev the engine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_photog ★ Posted January 2, 2022 Share #23 Posted January 2, 2022 3 hours ago, KrAzY said: I have not been certified for about 3 years now, but I'm guessing it's still about the same as I learnt back then... mostly just chest compressions with an open airway.. hook jumper cable to their nipple and rev the engine... You would be surprised to see how much you would learn if you took it again. To do it right you need one of these. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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