Randomguy Posted January 19, 2022 Share #1 Posted January 19, 2022 I am having a Trader Joe's chicken pot pie right now, and it is pretty tasty. Still, though, it seems odd and full of extra steps when you could just make stew instead of crusts and such. Discus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wilbur ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Popular Post Share #2 Posted January 19, 2022 Wrong. It is all about the crust. 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #3 Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Wrong. It is all about the crust. This. I buy Marie Callender chicken pot pies and they are delicious. Crust all around. There is a restaurant kinda near me (5 miles away) that makes their own. So good. They also sell them frozen to bake at home. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #4 Posted January 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Wrong. It is all about the crust. Is that where the four sticks of butter are? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 19, 2022 Share #5 Posted January 19, 2022 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_pie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 19, 2022 Share #6 Posted January 19, 2022 The origins of food are very interesting. Like, who made the first loaf of bread? Who had rotten rotten food that had fermented and they thought "This seems tasty." Who ate the first tomato from a plant where the leaves are toxic? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted January 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Wilbur said: It is all about the crust. 9 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said: This. I buy Marie Callender chicken pot pies and they are delicious. Crust all around. There is a restaurant kinda near me (5 miles away) that makes their own. So good. They also sell them frozen to bake at home. Yes, I like it also, I just don't think I would go to the extra trouble of making a crust unless I was also making a pie, which I never have before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #8 Posted January 19, 2022 Pies are said to have originated in the Neolithic Age around 9500 B.C. by discoveries made by archaeologists.[4] The Greeks cooked meats mixed with other ingredients in open pastry shells, and these were called artocreas and were then spread to the Romans. In the times of the Roman Empire, these pastries were served at banquets and were prepared with various meats, oysters, mussels, lampreys, and fish and included a crust made of a flour and oil mixture. The royalty nicknamed them "coffins". Pies spread across medieval Europe during the Crusades. In the 16th century, the English gentry revived the custom of serving pies and the tradition soon swept the country. A British food commenter once described them as, "which they bake in pasties, and this venison pasty is a dainty rarely found in any other kingdom."[5] The meat pies made by the English of that era (called pot pies in North America) would include various meats such as pork, lamb, birds and game. During the reign of Elizabeth I, English cooks made pies using “chicken peepers,” which consisted of chicks stuffed with gooseberries. The obsession with pies spread to the New World soon after it spread across Europe when the first American settlers took their pie recipes with them when they moved westward.[6] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 19, 2022 Share #9 Posted January 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Is that where the four sticks of butter are? It isn't four sticks. I make two crusts with 1 stick butter and 1/4 cup of shortening. I like the egg and vinegar crust trick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 19, 2022 Share #10 Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Yes, I like it also, I just don't think I would go to the extra trouble of making a crust unless I was also making a pie, which I never have before. It is super easy if you have a food processor. You want the fat very cold. I freeze the pats of butter and fat. The butter stays in smaller chunks. That is what makes it flaky. Don't overwork it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share #11 Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: It is super easy if you have a food processor. You want the fat very cold. I freeze the pats of butter and fat. The butter stays in smaller chunks. That is what makes it flaky. Don't overwork it. I have never had a food processor, not yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #12 Posted January 19, 2022 We often make the pot pie filling and then bake up a few biscuits to throw on top. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 19, 2022 Share #13 Posted January 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Randomguy said: I have never had a food processor, not yet. Ah, shoot. You can do it with your fingers too, but I have not been so successful with that method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted January 19, 2022 Share #14 Posted January 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Yes, I like it also, I just don't think I would go to the extra trouble of making a crust unless I was also making a pie, which I never have before. ...the reason you make it with a light, fluffy, delicious crust, is for when you eat it a couple of hours after you ate the pot brownies you made at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted January 19, 2022 Author Share #15 Posted January 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: We often make the pot pie filling and then bake up a few biscuits to throw on top. This seems like a decent idea. Where do dumplings fit into this discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 19, 2022 Share #16 Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: We often make the pot pie filling and then bake up a few biscuits to throw on top. That is a nifty idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #17 Posted January 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: We often make the pot pie filling and then bake up a few biscuits to throw on top. Pillsbury or Bisquick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #18 Posted January 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Yes, I like it also, I just don't think I would go to the extra trouble of making a crust unless I was also making a pie, which I never have before. I wouldn't either. And it wouldn't be as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted January 19, 2022 Share #19 Posted January 19, 2022 37 minutes ago, Randomguy said: I am having a Trader Joe's chicken pot pie right now, and it is pretty tasty. Still, though, it seems odd and full of extra steps when you could just make stew instead of crusts and such. Discus. ...here is how the process works at my house: 1. I make a chicken or turkey stew from the leftovers from the roast fowl meal we ate on Sunday. I do this on Monday, and we eat it as stew, with a good bread. 2. On Tuesday, I make a deep dish meat pie out of the stew leftovers. I make it with a whole wheat pie crust recipe. 3. By Wednesday or Thursday, this pie is also gone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #20 Posted January 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Randomguy said: This seems like a decent idea. Where do dumplings fit into this discussion? Biscuits are typically baking soda while dumplings are typically baking powder. I have been known to float dumplings on top of stew then finish them under the broiler. It's all good, experiment, have fun. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #21 Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Biscuits are typically baking soda while dumplings are typically baking powder. I have been known to float dumplings on top of stew then finish them under the broiler. It's all good, experiment, have fun. I like chicken dumpling soup 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #22 Posted January 19, 2022 So, we're blaming the Brits? I'm cool with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #23 Posted January 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Randomguy said: I have never had a food processor, not yet. Yes you do. There’s one at the end of each arm. That’s what I use to make pastry dough. Bits of fat covered in flour bound together with a cold liquid. I smoosh the butter and lard bits together to get small bits covered in flour. Add ice water to bring it all together. Chill and roll your dough before filling and baking. Check you local library for Art of the Pie by Kate McDermott. She writes well and is a great way to learn piechiatry. She is celiac and has a lot of information on gluten free crusts. She has a website with recipes and lessons @ artofthepie.com 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted January 19, 2022 Share #24 Posted January 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: So, we're blaming the Brits? I'm cool with that. ...steak and kidney pie is disgusting, and a waste of good steak. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris... Posted January 19, 2022 Share #25 Posted January 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, Page Turner said: ...steak and kidney pie is disgusting, and a waste of good steak. I leave out the kidneys. Steak and mushroom is my favorite 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BuffJim Posted January 19, 2022 Popular Post Share #26 Posted January 19, 2022 We had a large birthday party for my moms 80th, and ordered from the menu. My nephew ordered a pot pie, and literally had a meltdown when it arrived. Not what he was expecting. He was maybe 11 at the time, and perhaps had some emotional issues. Maybe he thought it would have pot in it? Anyways he calmed down. I looked over at him a few minutes later and he was devouring it like it was his last meal. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #27 Posted January 19, 2022 41 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: That is a nifty idea. Easier than making a crust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted January 19, 2022 Share #28 Posted January 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Easier than making a crust. Maybe. It’s about the same. I follow @Page Turner’s line of cooking. Made a beef and stout stew that was supposed to become a shepherds pie with mashed potatoes the next day, but my guests ate all the stew. They were hungry for comfort food. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 19, 2022 Share #29 Posted January 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Easier than making a crust. But I still have to make the biscuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #30 Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, maddmaxx said: We often make the pot pie filling and then bake up a few biscuits to throw on top. My wife makes a mean chicken pot pie. She buys a rotisserie chicken and uses that along with all the veggies and stuff. I want her to try using mashed potatoes on top instead of crust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #31 Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Wilbur said: Pillsbury or Bisquick? Red Lobster cheesy biscuit mix. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Popular Post Share #32 Posted January 19, 2022 Beef and Guinness pot pies I made for St Patrick’s Day 2020. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #33 Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Old No. 7 said: Beef and Guinness pot pies I made for St Patrick’s Day 2020. Those have to have gone bad my now. Throw them out, no matter how good they look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #34 Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, jsharrwick said: Those have to have gone bad my now. Throw them out, no matter how good they look. They never lasted past that weekend. Long gone by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted January 19, 2022 Share #35 Posted January 19, 2022 crust tip: only cut in half the shortening at a time. It's hard to work frozen shortening, but you can chill the mix after cutting it in, before adding water. That's all useless if you let the crust come to room temperature before baking. For a more moist steak & kidney, substitute a bladder for the kidney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 19, 2022 Share #36 Posted January 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, Old No. 7 said: Beef and Guinness pot pies I made for St Patrick’s Day 2020. Beautiful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted January 19, 2022 Share #37 Posted January 19, 2022 New berry Park Pastries near us sells only pot pies and maybe a tart. People wait In Line. I order ahead. They are delicious. I used to make my own not worth the time now. They are open 4 to 6 Friday and Saturday morning. https://www.newburyparkpastries.com 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #38 Posted January 19, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 19, 2022 Share #39 Posted January 19, 2022 1 minute ago, jsharrwick said: That looks great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 19, 2022 Share #40 Posted January 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Dirtyhip said: That looks great. I stole the picture, but I am gonna try this next time we do pot pie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted January 19, 2022 Share #41 Posted January 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Dirtyhip said: The origins of food are very interesting. Like, who made the first loaf of bread? Who had rotten rotten food that had fermented and they thought "This seems tasty." Who ate the first tomato from a plant where the leaves are toxic? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 19, 2022 Share #42 Posted January 19, 2022 35 minutes ago, jsharrwick said: I stole the picture, but I am gonna try this next time we do pot pie. If you have a hand held torch, it is nice for browning the tips but not overcooking the dish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted January 20, 2022 Share #43 Posted January 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Randomguy said: I am having a Trader Joe's chicken pot pie right now, and it is pretty tasty. Still, though, it seems odd and full of extra steps when you could just make stew instead of crusts and such. Discus. I like a couple of Marie Callenders Chicken Pot Pies in the 1 lb size that have good crusts and are juicy. I don't like pot pies that are dry because the crust is too dry to chew without a little sauce. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted January 20, 2022 Share #44 Posted January 20, 2022 42 posts about pot pies. I love this place. Yea 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted January 20, 2022 Share #45 Posted January 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Dirtyhip said: Who ate the first tomato from a plant where the leaves are toxic? Adam and Eve. Tomatoes were just the gateway fruit to the apple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted January 20, 2022 Author Share #46 Posted January 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Airehead said: 42 posts about pot pies. I love this place. Yea Lots of maniacs here! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 20, 2022 Share #47 Posted January 20, 2022 13 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: Adam and Eve. Tomatoes were just the gateway fruit to the apple. Where does the fig fit into all of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted January 20, 2022 Share #48 Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, jsharrwick said: Where does the fig fit into all of this? Fig leaves covered up the bits. Eve used the fruit for cookies and pies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted January 20, 2022 Share #49 Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Old No. 7 said: Fig leaves covered up the bits. Eve used the fruit for cookies and pies. They say Eve tempted Adam with an apple But man I ain't going for that I know it was her pink Cadillac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted January 21, 2022 Share #50 Posted January 21, 2022 15 hours ago, jsharrwick said: Where does the fig fit into all of this? I haven't fig-ured that one out yet... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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