Razors Edge ★ Posted January 25, 2022 Share #1 Posted January 25, 2022 Can we get an AMEN??? Hiker Rescued in Pisgah National Forest After Ignoring Winter Storm Warnings As heavy Winter Storm Izzy came down on much of North Carolina earlier this month, a man went hiking in Pisgah National Forest, despite multiple weather warnings advising people to stay home. When it became clear that the hiker was underprepared for the severe weather, a Haywood County Search and Rescue team strapped on their snowshoes and set out for an emergency evacuation. On Friday, January 15, the National Weather Service in Raleigh had issued a winter storm watch that was later upgraded to a weather advisory. That same day North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper (D) also urged people to be prepared for the weather after declaring a state of emergency the day before to activate state resources for storm response. Despite the warnings, the unidentified hiker set out on Saturday to backpack western North Carolina’s Art Loeb Trail. The 30-mile trail in Pisgah National Forest leads to the summits of Black Balsam Knob and Tennent Mountain and is known to be “one of the longer and more difficult trails in the state,” according to AllTrails. The man survived a night of camping on Saturday, but by Sunday morning he knew he needed to call for help. According to Haywood County Search & Rescue, they responded to a call reporting a stranded hiker at 10:15 a.m. that Sunday and headed up the Blue Ridge Parkway where “road conditions were treacherous with less than 100 feet of visibility and a wintry mix of sleet and snow falling.” When the team arrived at the trailhead, they continued in a 4WD truck for about two miles, which was as far as conditions allowed. “From there, they donned snowshoes and traveled on foot to get to the stranded hiker,” the Haywood County Search & Rescue said in a Facebook post. “Six members of Haywood County Search and Rescue’s highly-trained Mountain Rescue Team participated in the search. Mountain Rescue Team members receive intensive alpine rescue training specifically designed to challenge individuals to prepare them for winter rescue scenarios exactly like those they encountered on this mission.” Thanks to the trained officials of Haywood County Search & Rescue, the man was found safely without any injuries. As severe weather can quickly become a larger threat, especially this time of year, the organization urges the public to always remember to check the weather forecast and trail conditions before heading into the wild. “The hiker was in good spirits, despite the long night he just endured and was able to walk out on his own alongside the rescuers,” the team said in the Facebook post, which included a photo of the rescuers smiling in their bright orange gear after a job well done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Square Wheels Posted January 25, 2022 Popular Post Share #2 Posted January 25, 2022 Hopefully he has to pay for that. 3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted January 25, 2022 Share #3 Posted January 25, 2022 Idiot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Hopefully he has to pay for that. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 25, 2022 Share #5 Posted January 25, 2022 He hiked out on his own. Why didn’t he just do that? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #6 Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Longjohn said: He hiked out on his own. Why didn’t he just do that? And gave the emergency folks some afternoon fun. Those folks love a good search and rescue event! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted January 25, 2022 Share #7 Posted January 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Why? "Despite the warnings"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: "Despite the warnings"... ...meets up with the dumpster fire that is 2020, 2021, and 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted January 25, 2022 Share #9 Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Square Wheels said: Hopefully he has to pay for that. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted January 25, 2022 Share #10 Posted January 25, 2022 SAR has been busy here. https://buckrail.com/three-rescues-in-three-days-for-tcsar/ The team responded to 103 calls for service as of Dec. 1. It was the second-busiest year on record, just two short of 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted January 25, 2022 Share #11 Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Randomguy said: Why? "Despite the warnings"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 25, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Square Wheels said: "Despite the warnings"... That hasn't been relevant in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted January 25, 2022 Share #13 Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Square Wheels said: "Despite the warnings"... Ah, weather happens in all kinds of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted January 25, 2022 Share #14 Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: That hasn't been relevant in years. 5 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Ah, weather happens in all kinds of seasons. A quick search found many articles where people need to pay, this one isn't clear, but possible pressing charges too. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-man-may-have-to-pay-own-rescue-bill-20190618-7qdnwn65z5ck7jfezmbafolwae-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted January 26, 2022 Share #15 Posted January 26, 2022 I'm guessing the 'rescue' was so easy because they already knew which way to go: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 26, 2022 Share #16 Posted January 26, 2022 55 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: I'm guessing the 'rescue' was so easy because they already knew which way to go: The guy that was rescued must not have known or he would have walked out by himself instead of calling all them to come rescue him and then he walked out anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted January 26, 2022 Share #17 Posted January 26, 2022 Foolish to attempt the hike at that time but at least he called as soon as he realized his predicament. He could just as easily hunkered down or continued to try to walk out. Then there would be trouble and the rescue people would be under pressure to get there quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted January 26, 2022 Share #18 Posted January 26, 2022 16 hours ago, Square Wheels said: A quick search found many articles where people need to pay, this one isn't clear, but possible pressing charges too. Is the rescue cost posted? Is bad weather subjective? Are you inviting unskilled or flatlander folks in to the outdoors? Did they start the climb during a storm or with decent weather? I don't like living in a nickle and dime or a 'gotcha' situation where someone randomly says you have to pay whatever we say after the fact. You have either a paid rescue team or a volunteer team because people will get in unforseen situations and will need rescuing sometimes. You can be totally lacking in common sense as a tourist, and I would say most tourists are lacking that. You invite and welcome tourists to climb a mountain and staff a rescue team for a reason and that reason is not to charge people an arbitrary cost when some need help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted January 26, 2022 Share #19 Posted January 26, 2022 Yeah, I have real questions about the "he walked out with them" part. I also have questions about how we are applying Darwin's research. Opportunity lost here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted January 26, 2022 Share #20 Posted January 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, 12string said: I also have questions about how we are applying Darwin's research. Opportunity lost here. I don’t know that we know enough about the hiker to know if Darwin even applied. He may have already procreated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 26, 2022 Share #21 Posted January 26, 2022 We had severe weather advisories both last Monday and this Monday and Tuesday. I still went to all ny appointments. Last Monday was terrible but I have 4 wheel drive and had no issues. The doctors office on the other hand was closed because of the weather. This Monday and Tuesday the weather service made a bad guess and the weather was fine. A little bit slippery in town where they had salted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr ★ Posted January 26, 2022 Share #22 Posted January 26, 2022 23 hours ago, Square Wheels said: Hopefully he has to pay for that. I think SAR discourages that as people in a pickle may be hesitant to call when they are in real trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 26, 2022 Share #23 Posted January 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Scrapr said: I think SAR discourages that as people in a pickle may be hesitant to call when they are in real trouble. Yup. Kind of like how hospitals don't charge extra when someone shoves something up their rectum and other self inflicted medical conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted January 26, 2022 Share #24 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Dirtyhip said: Yup. Kind of like how hospitals don't charge extra when someone shoves something up their rectum and other self inflicted medical conditions. Ha, they always charge extra for that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 26, 2022 Share #25 Posted January 26, 2022 58 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Yup. Kind of like how hospitals don't charge extra when someone shoves something up their rectum and other self inflicted medical conditions. Ambulances sure charge enough wether you were the ones that called them or not. I would see on these reality shows someone has a fender bender and the cops call an ambulance for them to go get checked out. They are out walking around, answering questions, no blood on them and they let themselves be loaded into an ambulance. Ca-Ching, there goes $750 or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 26, 2022 Share #26 Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, Longjohn said: Ambulances sure charge enough wether you were the ones that called them or not. I would see on these reality shows someone has a fender bender and the cops call an ambulance for them to go get checked out. They are out walking around, answering questions, no blood on them and they let themselves be loaded into an ambulance. Ca-Ching, there goes $750 or more. Not really. I have refused that service before. It is always a choice. Unless, one is unconscious. You can refuse any medical service if you are able to communicate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 26, 2022 Share #27 Posted January 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Not really. I have refused that service before. It is always a choice. Unless, one is unconscious. You can refuse any medical service if you are able to communicate that. I’ve refused it before too but these people on TV just blindly let themselves be loaded into an ambulance. My ambulance rides have all been necessary. I still had to pay for them. Broken hip, transfer from one hospital to another for heart cath, Transfer from cancer center to Emergency room. Transfer from doctor’s office to hospital. I think my insurance I just bought pays for ambulance rides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share #28 Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Longjohn said: I’ve refused it before too but these people on TV just blindly let themselves be loaded into an ambulance. My ambulance rides have all been necessary. I still had to pay for them. Broken hip, transfer from one hospital to another for heart cath, Transfer from cancer center to Emergency room. Transfer from doctor’s office to hospital. I think my insurance I just bought pays for ambulance rides. And if they charge for the SAR, simply wait until they find you, decline, and follow them back to safety. I think that's how the guy in the story did it and was able to "walk out on his own alongside the rescuers"! GENIUS!!! Darwin FTW! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted January 26, 2022 Share #29 Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Longjohn said: I’ve refused it before too but these people on TV just blindly let themselves be loaded into an ambulance. I had a friend while in grade school who crashed his bike. He was fine. A neighbor called 911, the police and ambulance came. He was encouraged by the EMS to go off in the ambulance just to make sure he was ok. He obliged, as most 10 year olds might. His mom was not happy with the bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share #30 Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: I had a friend while in grade school who crashed his bike. He was fine. A neighbor called 911, the police and ambulance came. He was encouraged by the EMS to go off in the ambulance just to make sure he was ok. He obliged, as most 10 year olds might. His mom was not happy with the bill! We didn't have 911 when I was a kid! We used to have to call the cops or fire department. A total rigamarole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 26, 2022 Share #31 Posted January 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Prophet Zacharia said: I had a friend while in grade school who crashed his bike. He was fine. A neighbor called 911, the police and ambulance came. He was encouraged by the EMS to go off in the ambulance just to make sure he was ok. He obliged, as most 10 year olds might. His mom was not happy with the bill! I’m surprised they could take him away without parental consent unless his life was in extreme danger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share #32 Posted January 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, Longjohn said: I’m surprised they could take him away without parental consent unless his life was in extreme danger. Back in the 70s, they could do a lot of good stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted January 26, 2022 Share #33 Posted January 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Longjohn said: I’ve refused it before too but these people on TV just blindly let themselves be loaded into an ambulance. My ambulance rides have all been necessary. I still had to pay for them. Broken hip, transfer from one hospital to another for heart cath, Transfer from cancer center to Emergency room. Transfer from doctor’s office to hospital. I think my insurance I just bought pays for ambulance rides. Well, TV. HoDH laughs at some of the medical scenes. He's like "That doesn't happen" or "this is not accurate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted January 26, 2022 Share #34 Posted January 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: We didn't have 911 when I was a kid! We used to have to call the cops or fire department. A total rigamarole! You may be right, I wasn’t involved in the call, they all just showed up. 1 hour ago, Longjohn said: I’m surprised they could take him away without parental consent unless his life was in extreme danger. It was an “emergency”. I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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