Wilbur ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Share #1 Posted February 2, 2022 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zealot Posted February 2, 2022 Popular Post Share #2 Posted February 2, 2022 I don’t think I view friendships that way. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Share #3 Posted February 2, 2022 That is not something I would assign a percentage to, but rather the content of some of that dialogue. My friends can say lots of things I disagree with or they can utter one sentence that ends that friendship. It's all relative. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted February 2, 2022 21 minutes ago, Zealot said: I don’t think I view friendships that way. Many do. A coworker made reference to it the other day and I found it odd that he would equate friendship to commonality of thought but his reasons sounded plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Author Share #5 Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, maddmaxx said: That is not something I would assign a percentage to, but rather the content of some of that dialogue. My friends can say lots of things I disagree with or they can utter one sentence that ends that friendship. It's all relative. This is more my style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted February 2, 2022 Share #6 Posted February 2, 2022 78% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Share #7 Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Road Runner said: 78% heathen. You didn't quote 42. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Share #8 Posted February 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: heathen. You didn't quote 42. 78 plus 42 is 120; you can’t get more real than that! in sirrious response to the question it depends on the people involved. If my friend only wants to hear their thoughts repeated in my voice. I can’t do that. If I make a statement or opinion and they immediately counter why I’m wrong, without taking into account that my expression is based on my life experiences, education, and personal interpretation. I can’t do that either. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted February 2, 2022 Share #9 Posted February 2, 2022 "Friends"? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Popular Post JerrySTL ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Solution Popular Post Share #10 Posted February 2, 2022 Not very much. I don't think that I could be friends with any fool who agreed with me all that much. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted February 2, 2022 Share #11 Posted February 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, JerrySTL said: Not very much. I don't think that I could be friends with any fool who agreed with me all that much. I totally agree. You couldn't be any more right about this. Please mark as solution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MickinMD ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Popular Post Share #12 Posted February 2, 2022 I have some friends that have opposite views as me with politics and religion. But the reason they're friends is their attitude is the same as mine about being an asset to society, being honest and helpful and kind and a Good Samaritan if its needed. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Share #13 Posted February 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Road Runner said: 78% 83% of statistics are lies. And the rest are made up. Or is it the other way around. Doesn't matter. Wah-wah. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted February 2, 2022 Share #14 Posted February 2, 2022 I think you do have to have something in common to be friends, so it would be a low number. Otherwise we would all be hermits. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR46 Posted February 2, 2022 Share #15 Posted February 2, 2022 I have a friend that we are complete polar opposites when it comes to politics. We actually laugh and joke about about being opposites when it comes to politics. Just because he doesn't have the same views as me doesn't mean that I wish death on him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted February 3, 2022 Share #16 Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, BR46 said: Just because he doesn't have the same views as me doesn't mean that I wish death on him. What about if his motorcycle is faster? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted February 3, 2022 Share #17 Posted February 3, 2022 7 hours ago, JerrySTL said: Not very much. I don't think that I could be friends with any fool who agreed with me all that much. POTM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR46 Posted February 3, 2022 Share #18 Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: What about if his motorcycle is faster? We enjoy the challenge it pushes us to be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted February 3, 2022 Share #19 Posted February 3, 2022 17 hours ago, Old No. 7 said: 78 plus 42 is 120; you can’t get more real than that! in sirrious response to the question it depends on the people involved. If my friend only wants to hear their thoughts repeated in my voice. I can’t do that. If I make a statement or opinion and they immediately counter why I’m wrong, without taking into account that my expression is based on my life experiences, education, and personal interpretation. I can’t do that either. I like this answer, and augment with my take. I have said here several times before that I have friends with all manner of fucked up beliefs. Leads to good conversations, and to me, the most important thing is hearing the 'why' component of everything. The 'whys' are most important because without the well-thought-out whys, you are just a straight-up fool repeating nonsense. If you can't defend your position in speaking and writing logically and explain how you arrived at those views, then your opinions are just unorganized fluff and aren't worthy of respect, especially if it is all just parroting and spouting off constantly. If you can't admit the bad with the good or obvious contradictions about your beliefs and admit to any logical gaps and clear biases, then you haven't examined those beliefs enough to be valid. You must be able to laugh about them and be able to view them from the perspective of someone who doesn't think the same way, too. Thinking is necessary, generally, in order to be good friends, as I like curious people who have originality and thoughtful consideration as part of their core makeup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted February 3, 2022 Share #20 Posted February 3, 2022 17 hours ago, Wilbur said: Many do. A coworker made reference to it the other day and I found it odd that he would equate friendship to commonality of thought but his reasons sounded plausible. It seems like this is a fairly recent thing. We have lost the ability to simply disagree and leave it at that. I read something recently that said this is common in eastern cultures. They referred to it as a shame and honor system. If there is disagreement it’s not just your belief or idea is bad, but you are a bad person for having it. Not sure if that is accurate or not but does seem to be where some are headed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted February 3, 2022 Share #21 Posted February 3, 2022 If I was friends only with people who shared my views, I’d have no friends. Wait, I don’t have any friends! 😐 😉 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted February 3, 2022 Share #22 Posted February 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Gump said: We have lost the ability to simply disagree and leave it at that. NO WE HAVE NOT!!!! NOW YOU TAKE THAT BACK, AND FAST, BECAUSE I'VE ONLY PAID FOR THE FIVE MINUTE ARGUMENT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted February 3, 2022 Share #23 Posted February 3, 2022 Whew, that was close. I thought this thread was pinned. I was going to holler at somebody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted February 3, 2022 Share #24 Posted February 3, 2022 5 hours ago, BR46 said: We enjoy the challenge it pushes us to be better I think that response is just a nice way to say nobody will ever find the body... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gump Posted February 3, 2022 Share #25 Posted February 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: NO WE HAVE NOT!!!! NOW YOU TAKE THAT BACK, AND FAST, BECAUSE I'VE ONLY PAID FOR THE FIVE MINUTE ARGUMENT! YOU’RE CANCELLED!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted February 3, 2022 Share #26 Posted February 3, 2022 11 hours ago, Randomguy said: I like this answer, and augment with my take. I have said here several times before that I have friends with all manner of fucked up beliefs. Leads to good conversations, and to me, the most important thing is hearing the 'why' component of everything. The 'whys' are most important because without the well-thought-out whys, you are just a straight-up fool repeating nonsense. If you can't defend your position in speaking and writing logically and explain how you arrived at those views, then your opinions are just unorganized fluff and aren't worthy of respect, especially if it is all just parroting and spouting off constantly. If you can't admit the bad with the good or obvious contradictions about your beliefs and admit to any logical gaps and clear biases, then you haven't examined those beliefs enough to be valid. You must be able to laugh about them and be able to view them from the perspective of someone who doesn't think the same way, too. Thinking is necessary, generally, in order to be good friends, as I like curious people who have originality and thoughtful consideration as part of their core makeup. Very close and long standing friends are there in our lives to support one another. To me, that's why they are long-standing and close friends. They accept the flaws that they see in us, (they may not know all of them) but keep the friendship because the person has some good traits and also share some things in common, including learning/doing something together. They can include: shared experiences in life and some core values. Those values also include mutual respect and shared relationship of some equity. There is mutual positive reciprocity, support. Otherwise the friendship is one-sided and unhealthy. A good friend allows us grow and willingly is beside us to listen, should we need their ear, etc. A very close/best friend allows us to be/become ourselves at every stage in life. While one may debate and have opposite views, it's not like that with my friends that I've known last 40-11 yrs. One cannot sustain a healthy friendship for long if it creates stress. I don't waste time arguing like I do here in the forum compared to my face-to-face friends. It doesn't mean we agree on everything, it's just not central to our friendship what we individually might have on strong big ticket opinion we have on certain issues. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I don't even argue strongly in real life except occasionally with a family member or so. I occasionally have differing opinion with others in my job, on matters where it's suitable for my job role to express a different opinion that is work-related. It is a role that requires analysis and solutions which may contradict with some colleagues. But then colleagues don't expect everyone to think the same. (I hope. Something happened today, where I teetered close to crossing the line with my boss..in front a bunch of people.) So when I come to this forum, I admit it is something different for me. I didn't even read this thread until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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