donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Share #1 Posted March 11, 2022 I am making lemonade. You know why. I need help with the math because I am old and my mind is weak. So here's the problem. I have a 32 ounce jug that I want to fill with lemonade. The recipe calls to make a syrup of water and sugar in a ratio of 2:1. When the syrup is ready, mix it with lemon juice in a 2:1 ratio. That's the "base" for the lemonade drink. Now, you mix the "base" with water in a 1:1 ratio and viola, you have lemonade. So here's my question, Do what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted March 11, 2022 Share #2 Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, donkpow said: I am making lemonade. You know why. I need help with the math because I am old and my mind is weak. So here's the problem. I have a 32 ounce jug that I want to fill with lemonade. The recipe calls to make a syrup of water and sugar in a ratio of 2:1. When the syrup is ready, mix it with lemon juice in a 2:1 ratio. That's the "base" for the lemonade drink. Now, you mix the "base" with water in a 1:1 ratio and viola, you have lemonade. So here's my question, Do what? yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted March 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kzoo said: yes I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted March 11, 2022 Share #4 Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, donkpow said: I see. good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bikeman564™ Posted March 11, 2022 Popular Post Share #5 Posted March 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, donkpow said: I am making lemonade. You know why. I need help with the math because I am old and my mind is weak. So here's the problem. I have a 32 ounce jug that I want to fill with lemonade. The recipe calls to make a syrup of water and sugar in a ratio of 2:1. When the syrup is ready, mix it with lemon juice in a 2:1 ratio. That's the "base" for the lemonade drink. Now, you mix the "base" with water in a 1:1 ratio and viola, you have lemonade. So here's my question, Do what? is syrup 2 part water to 1 part sugar or reverse?, Same with syrup & juice. But something like this 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 11, 2022 Share #6 Posted March 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said: is syrup 2 part water to 1 part sugar or reverse?, Same with syrup & juice. But something like this Dr. Mickin is going to be so proud of you. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted March 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said: is syrup 2 part water to 1 part sugar or reverse?, Same with syrup & juice. But something like this Yes, water : sugar ratio is correct. Lemon juice : syrup is backwards. This poses the question, does the mixing of water and sugar create a significantly larger volume of syrup than of water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 11, 2022 Share #8 Posted March 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, donkpow said: Yes, water : sugar ratio is correct. Lemon juice : syrup is backwards. This poses the question, does the mixing of water and sugar create a significantly larger volume of syrup than of water? revised I'd need to think aboot the volume question, ask @MickinMD. The sugar will dissolve, but not sure how much by volume. My calculation below is the simple version. Make the syrup first, then you'll see what you end up with. Try doubling the starting volumes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #9 Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said: Try doubling the starting volumes. I made it already with larger volumes of stuff. I'm just trying to fit it into a single 32 oz. bottle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 11, 2022 Share #10 Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, donkpow said: I made it already with larger volumes of stuff. I'm just trying to fit it into a single 32 oz. bottle. Buy a bigger bottle. solved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #11 Posted March 11, 2022 Here's what I thought, 16 oz of water and 16 oz of base. That makes the base 16/3=5.33. Of which 10.6 oz of syrup and 5.3 oz of lemon juice. Neglecting volumetric change in the mixture (sugar is "dissolved"), that's 10.6 oz of water and 5.3 fl oz of sugar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Buy a bigger bottle. solved. I'm using the 32 oz bottle because that's what the lemon juice came in. It's hippy stuff, I doubt you would understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 11, 2022 Share #13 Posted March 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, donkpow said: I made it already with larger volumes of stuff. I'm just trying to fit it into a single 32 oz. bottle. then 10 fl oz syrup : 5 fl oz juice (15) to 15 fl oz water (30) close enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #14 Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, bikeman564™ said: then 10 fl oz syrup : 5 fl oz juice (15) to 15 fl oz water (30) close enough Exactly what I was thinking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted March 11, 2022 Share #15 Posted March 11, 2022 That really is confusing. All that math! All you wanted to do was make some nice lemonade and the recipe people just had to stick it to you. Sometimes life just gives you lemons. Hey - you know what you should do?! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 11, 2022 Share #16 Posted March 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, donkpow said: Exactly what I was thinking. With 2 oz of adjustment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 11, 2022 Share #17 Posted March 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, donkpow said: I'm using the 32 oz bottle because that's what the lemon juice came in. It's hippy stuff, I doubt you would understand. I don't understand "stupid" so I am thinking you are correct. Carry on... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #18 Posted March 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said: With 2 oz of adjustment Yeah, I can fudge it. I actually use a little less sugar in the recipe but I don't think that matters since it is the total volume of the syrup that counts in filling the jug. I could make up the 2 oz with water and be perfectly happy with the mix. Here's what I use. Around $5 at Krogers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 11, 2022 Share #19 Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Wilbur said: I don't understand "stupid" so I am thinking you are correct. Carry on... You did not see my good morning thread, did you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #20 Posted March 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Wilbur said: I don't understand "stupid" so I am thinking you are correct. Carry on... I see, Mr. Language Skills is falling out, huh? If you want a little tête-à-tête and some mano a mano, you'll just have to wait. I'm making some lemonade to put in a 32 oz bottle right now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 11, 2022 Share #21 Posted March 11, 2022 1 minute ago, donkpow said: I see, Mr. Language Skills is falling out, huh? If you want a little tête-à-tête and some mano a mano, you'll just have to wait. I'm making some lemonade to put in a 32 oz bottle right now. Settle down gramps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted March 11, 2022 Share #22 Posted March 11, 2022 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted March 11, 2022 Share #23 Posted March 11, 2022 The real question... how many parts bourbon do you add to it? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted March 11, 2022 Just now, Parr8hed said: The real question... how many parts bourbon do you add to it? I'm going to put ginger juice in it. Mm-mm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 11, 2022 Share #25 Posted March 11, 2022 Wth are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted March 11, 2022 Lemonade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share #27 Posted March 11, 2022 Okay that worked out pretty good. Thanks for your help. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 11, 2022 Share #28 Posted March 11, 2022 31 minutes ago, donkpow said: Okay that worked out pretty good. Thanks for your help. Yes, I'd love a glass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share #29 Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, bikeman564™ said: Yes, I'd love a glass We'll have to wait until it is properly chilled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #30 Posted March 12, 2022 This all assumes that the water and lemon juice are fluid ounces and the sugar is in weighed ounces. Scratch work: Temporarily forgetting about the 32 oz. jug - we'll adjust to it later: for 2 syrup to 1 part lemon juicer, then it's a ratio 4 oz water and 2 oz sugar to 3 oz of lemon juice: that's twice as much syrup as lemon juice. Then that 9 oz. of base is mixed with an equal amount, 9 oz., of water. That would make 18/32 of a full 32 oz jug. So you have to multiply it by 32/18 to make 32 oz. 4 x 32/18 = 7.11 oz water plus 2 x 32/18 = 3.56 oz of sugar for syrup. (10.67 oz total) 3 x 32/18 = 5.33 oz lemon juice is added to it (16.00 oz total) to make the base. Then an equal amount, 16.00 oz of water: 32.00 oz total. Final work: rounded to easy to handle volumes and weights: Make a syrup with 7 oz of water and 3.5 oz. of sugar. NOTE: if the recipe means 2 fluid ounces of syrup to 1 fluid ounce of lemon juice, you need 10.5 fluid ounces of syrup and may have to use a little more than 7 oz of water and 3.5 oz of weighed sugar because the sugar dissolving in the water may cut the volume down below 10.5 fluid ounces. If it's close, to 10.5 fluid ounces, I wouldn't worry about it. Make the base by adding 5.25 oz. of lemon juice to the syrup. Add 15.75 oz. of water to the base. That works out to 31.5 oz. though the sugar dissolving in the water probably will reduce the volume to a little less than 31.5 fluid oz. If you want 32 oz. exactly, the easiest way is to cheat and top it off with a little more water - it's not likely enough to make a noticeable difference in taste. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted March 12, 2022 Share #31 Posted March 12, 2022 14 hours ago, donkpow said: Yeah, I can fudge it. I actually use a little less sugar in the recipe but I don't think that matters since it is the total volume of the syrup that counts in filling the jug. I could make up the 2 oz with water and be perfectly happy with the mix. Here's what I use. Around $5 at Krogers. BuffCarla always has a bottle of this in the fridge. She makes salad dressings, adds it to butter on asparagus and uses on fish if no fresh lemons are available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share #32 Posted March 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, BuffJim said: BuffCarla always has a bottle of this in the fridge. She makes salad dressings, adds it to butter on asparagus and uses on fish if no fresh lemons are available. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted March 12, 2022 Share #33 Posted March 12, 2022 Not sure you have the right image of my BuffCarla in your head… She’s a whirlwind in the kitchen. In this picture she’s knee deep in Mojitos 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted March 12, 2022 Share #34 Posted March 12, 2022 14 hours ago, donkpow said: I'm going to put gin and juice in it. Mm-mm. Sound good, Snoop. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #35 Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, BuffJim said: Mojito is a good drink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted March 12, 2022 Share #36 Posted March 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said: is a good drink I only order them when I am in the tropics, Florida or south. This was Ybor City, Tampa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #37 Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, BuffJim said: I only order them when I am in the tropics, Florida or south. This was Ybor City, Tampa. I've only bought a couple of them. But a few years ago I was at a friends house and they were making them fresh w/ homegrown mint. So good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted March 12, 2022 Share #38 Posted March 12, 2022 A two fisted drinker - she's a keeper. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #39 Posted March 12, 2022 10 hours ago, MickinMD said: This all assumes that the water and lemon juice are fluid ounces and the sugar is in weighed ounces. Scratch work: Temporarily forgetting about the 32 oz. jug - we'll adjust to it later: for 2 syrup to 1 part lemon juicer, then it's a ratio 4 oz water and 2 oz sugar to 3 oz of lemon juice: that's twice as much syrup as lemon juice. Then that 9 oz. of base is mixed with an equal amount, 9 oz., of water. That would make 18/32 of a full 32 oz jug. So you have to multiply it by 32/18 to make 32 oz. 4 x 32/18 = 7.11 oz water plus 2 x 32/18 = 3.56 oz of sugar for syrup. (10.67 oz total) 3 x 32/18 = 5.33 oz lemon juice is added to it (16.00 oz total) to make the base. Then an equal amount, 16.00 oz of water: 32.00 oz total. Final work: rounded to easy to handle volumes and weights: Make a syrup with 7 oz of water and 3.5 oz. of sugar. NOTE: if the recipe means 2 fluid ounces of syrup to 1 fluid ounce of lemon juice, you need 10.5 fluid ounces of syrup and may have to use a little more than 7 oz of water and 3.5 oz of weighed sugar because the sugar dissolving in the water may cut the volume down below 10.5 fluid ounces. If it's close, to 10.5 fluid ounces, I wouldn't worry about it. Make the base by adding 5.25 oz. of lemon juice to the syrup. Add 15.75 oz. of water to the base. That works out to 31.5 oz. though the sugar dissolving in the water probably will reduce the volume to a little less than 31.5 fluid oz. If you want 32 oz. exactly, the easiest way is to cheat and top it off with a little more water - it's not likely enough to make a noticeable difference in taste. Correction. I figured out the answer to my NOTE in my last post above. I looked up some chemistry info and found the table below and a 33% sugar syrup has a density of about 1.15 g/mL. That's 15% denser than water (1 g/mL), so the amount of water and sugar must be increased by 15% above what I listed to get a 33% sugar syrup that occupies 10.5 fl. oz. So 7 oz x 1.15 = 8.05 oz. 8 oz. is close enough. So, use 8 fl. oz. of water and 4 weighed oz. of sugar to get 10.5 fl. oz. of syrup, replacing the 7 oz. and 3.5 oz. in my "Final work" above. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #40 Posted March 12, 2022 @donkpow - it's good to know you are becoming a true chef! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted March 12, 2022 Share #41 Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, MickinMD said: Correction. I figured out the answer to my NOTE in my last post above. I looked up some chemistry info and found the table below and a 33% sugar syrup has a density of about 1.15 g/mL. That's 15% denser than water (1 g/mL), so the amount of water and sugar must be increased by 15% above what I listed to get a 33% sugar syrup that occupies 10.5 fl. oz. So 7 oz x 1.15 = 8.05 oz. 8 oz. is close enough. So, use 8 fl. oz. of water and 4 weighed oz. of sugar to get 10.5 fl. oz. of syrup, replacing the 7 oz. and 3.5 oz. in my "Final work" above. You are a very smart guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share #42 Posted March 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, Airehead said: You are a very smart guy. And determined. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share #43 Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, MickinMD said: Correction. I figured out the answer to my NOTE in my last post above. I looked up some chemistry info and found the table below and a 33% sugar syrup has a density of about 1.15 g/mL. That's 15% denser than water (1 g/mL), so the amount of water and sugar must be increased by 15% above what I listed to get a 33% sugar syrup that occupies 10.5 fl. oz. So 7 oz x 1.15 = 8.05 oz. 8 oz. is close enough. So, use 8 fl. oz. of water and 4 weighed oz. of sugar to get 10.5 fl. oz. of syrup, replacing the 7 oz. and 3.5 oz. in my "Final work" above. Thanks a lot. Interesting. My initial curiosity was whether or not there was a change in volume by dissolving the sugar in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #44 Posted March 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, Airehead said: You are a very smart guy. its not easy makin' lemonade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #45 Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, bikeman564™ said: its not easy makin' lemonade I would definitely just say eff it and have a beer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share #46 Posted March 12, 2022 4 hours ago, BuffJim said: Not sure you have the right image of my BuffCarla in your head… The lady I put up is the lady that puts the hot sauce in everything in the commercials. No reflection on you or yours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikeman564™ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #47 Posted March 12, 2022 Just now, Philander Seabury said: I would definitely just say eff it and have a beer. you'd need one after figuring oot that formula 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #48 Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: @donkpow - it's good to know you are becoming a true chef! Is that kid a little Frazz or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizeye Posted March 12, 2022 Share #49 Posted March 12, 2022 Math made simple... Makes more than 32 oz, but mix the excess with vodka, rum, brandy, or alcohol of your choice to make margarita, sangria or whatever, and you won't worry about the math. In fact, the greater the alcohol ratio the better and were you really going to measure the alcohol anyway? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 12, 2022 Share #50 Posted March 12, 2022 Speaking of cooking, today is the day I need to make my ginger hummus. Yowza! I have high expectations but they will most likely be crushed. But we live in hope. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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