Razors Edge ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #1 Posted March 14, 2022 ...because it is just annoying as heck seeing dopey words used in Wordle, and it makes me wonder what the point is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #2 Posted March 14, 2022 I do not believe a soare has ever had a roate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #3 Posted March 14, 2022 The point of using soare and roate in Wordle to win at all costs. These words use high frequency letters in the positions they would normally fall in a five letter word more than lets say "nasty" or "bagel" would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted March 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, jsharrwick said: The point of using soare and roate in Wordle to win at all costs. To win what? The game? Or against us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #5 Posted March 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, jsharrwick said: The point of using soare and roate in Wordle to win at all costs. These words use high frequency letters in the positions they would normally fall in a five letter word more than lets say "nasty" or "bagel" would. The only drawback is that they will likely never be used as Wordle solution words. Therefore, your chances of ever getting really lucky and winning in one word are practically nil. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #6 Posted March 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: To win what? The game? Or against us? the object of wordle is to guess a word in the fewest tries I thought. Roate and Soare work for me to achieve that end goal. I would prefer to do it in two or three guesses instead of 5. I compete against myself I guess. I used to do the word scramble and see if I could tie or beat the high score the game listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share #7 Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Road Runner said: The only drawback is that they will likely never be used as Wordle solution words. Therefore, your chances of ever getting really lucky and winning in one word are practically nil. Yep - so words we have never seen nor used are the words chosen to start? Yuck. 4 minutes ago, jsharrwick said: the object of wordle is to guess a word in the fewest tries I thought. Roate and Soare work for me to achieve that end goal. I would prefer to do it in two or three guesses instead of 5. I compete against myself I guess. I used to do the word scramble and see if I could tie or beat the high score the game listed. I don't think SOARE or ROATE or ADIEU result in quicker results. I'd be interested to see if they do - in "normal" play vs the optimized calculating competitive world of Wordle that most (all?) of us here are not a part of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #8 Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, jsharrwick said: the object of wordle is to guess a word in the fewest tries I thought. Roate and Soare work for me to achieve that end goal. As long as they are real words, i don't see what the problem is. The game is about words. If Wordle accepts them, then that is all that counts. I never use the word ADIEU, either, but it seems to be a very popular first word here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #9 Posted March 14, 2022 So what do most people use as a starting word? Fuzzy? Seems any word with high frequency letters is a good start and they are all just a guess at best. What are the odds of guessing a five letter word in one try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, jsharrwick said: What are the odds of guessing a five letter word in one try? I'd say zero with ROATE, SOARE or a plural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #11 Posted March 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, jsharrwick said: What are the odds of guessing a five letter word in one try? Approximately one in 2,315, according to an article I just read written by some guy on internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Approximately one in 2,315, according to an article I just read written by some guy on internet. Goes down by one every day? So, maybe 1 in 2,300 by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #13 Posted March 14, 2022 I feel your pain. I resisted for a long time but I was assimilated a few days ago and gave in. I do feel a little dirty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #14 Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Approximately one in 2,315, according to an article I just read written by some guy on internet. Quote The 5 most popular letters are E, A, R, O, T. We input them on the site and it creates 3 words out of them: OATER, ORATE, and ROATE. Hence using any of these 3 words is better than using ANY other initial guess if your goal is to get the best possible outcome for your second guess only. So this doesn’t take any tactics into account. These 3 words are not among the 2315 Wordle words so you will never get a “solved in 1” using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #15 Posted March 14, 2022 Quote Please Use ROATE or SOARE in a Sentence Sure! “Roate and soare are bogus words used by many as a starting Wordle.” That was easy! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share #16 Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Road Runner said: The 5 most popular letters are E, A, R, O, T. We input them on the site and it creates 3 words out of them: OATER, ORATE, and ROATE. Hence using any of these 3 words is better than using ANY other initial guess if your goal is to get the best possible outcome for your second guess only. So this doesn’t take any tactics into account. These 3 words are not among the 2315 Wordle words so you will never get a “solved in 1” using them. I wonder why ORATE is not a solution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #17 Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: Sure! “Roate and soare are bogus words used by many as a starting Wordle.” That was easy! So words that are seldom used are bogus words? Oh, crap! The dictionary is full of bogus words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #18 Posted March 14, 2022 BTW, today's Wordle word is seldom used by any of us, I'm sure. I certainly know of it, but I doubt that I have ever used it in a sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #19 Posted March 14, 2022 I’m getting really SOARE with your ROATE posts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #20 Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Road Runner said: So words that are seldom used are bogus words? Oh, crap! The dictionary is full of bogus words! This brings to mind my wife and I playing scrabble, which we gave up long ago. I think roate is really an acronym. I think I tried snafu for comparison but my memory being what it is, I forget the result. But I guess some acronyms like that have wormed their way unto being words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share #21 Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Road Runner said: So words that are seldom used are bogus words? Oh, crap! The dictionary is full of bogus words! Meh! When I see "obsolete variant of ROTE" or "soare - British English - obsolete - a young hawk", I put them in the "don't use" category! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #22 Posted March 14, 2022 You should roate your tires or you will be soarey! https://www.facebook.com/KalTire/videos/roate-your-tires/482588539712356/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #23 Posted March 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I wonder why ORATE is not a solution? According to the internet guy: Quote Wordle says there are 10657 US English 5-letter words. I don't know how up to date the list is, but let's use it for now. https://gist.github.com/cfreshman/cdcdf777450c5b5301e439061d29694c Only 2315 words are used as answers as the rest are too obscure and would make the game a trial-and-error game for regular people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #24 Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Only 2315 words are used as answers as the rest are too obscure and would make the game a trial-and-error game for regular people. I also feel this way about words that can be nine different words, depending on just one letter in one position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #25 Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Road Runner said: According to the internet guy: Goode pointe in general but I would think orate is a pretty normal and common word and should be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Road Runner said: I also feel this way about words that can be nine different words, depending on just one letter in one position. Please don't speak of that dark day in history 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #27 Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Road Runner said: I also feel this way about words that that can be nine different words, depending on just one letter in one position. Please stop talking shack snack slack smack. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #28 Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: Goode pointe in general but I would think orate is a pretty normal and common word and should be used. Maybe too many people are using it as a starting word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #29 Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Razors Edge said: Please don't speak of that dark day in history It drove mother goose to the doctor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #30 Posted March 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: ...because it is just annoying as heck seeing dopey words used in Wordle, and it makes me wonder what the point is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Kirby Posted March 14, 2022 Solution Share #31 Posted March 14, 2022 I've never used Soare or Roate as a starting word. So I"m leaving this thread. Adieu! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share #32 Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Kirby said: I've never used Soare or Roate as a starting word. So I"m leaving this thread. Adieu! Don't get me started on FOREIGN WORDS!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #33 Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: Don't get me started on FOREIGN WORDS!!!! Our Kirby has been implicated in a Wordle scam? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #34 Posted March 14, 2022 In the list of accepted Wordle word guesses that I posted above, the first two words are AAHED and AALII. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #35 Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Road Runner said: In the list of accepted Wordle word guesses that I posted above, the first two words are AAHED and AALII. Of course it would be dopey to use those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #36 Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Philander Seabury said: Of course it would be dopey to use those. AHEAD would be much better than AAHED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #37 Posted March 14, 2022 Has anyone tried DOPEY as their starting word? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted March 14, 2022 Share #38 Posted March 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: Of course it would be dopey to use those. What are you saying about us? I often see people here use letters and letter positions that have already been Wordle-rejected. Almost every day, in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted March 14, 2022 Share #39 Posted March 14, 2022 49 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: Please Use ROATE or SOARE in a Sentence I needed to ROATE my taars but my back was SOARE so I took my car to a taar shop and had them do it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted March 14, 2022 Share #40 Posted March 14, 2022 50 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Don't get me started on FOREIGN WORDS!!!! Adieu is an English word since the 14th Century, adopted from old French. I’d love to see the 2022 use rate for Adieu to see the Wordle Effect. Quote Originally said to the party left (farewell was to the party setting forth), but in English used as a general parting salutation. As a noun, "expression of kind wishes upon departure," late 14c. Compare native parting salutation good-bye, a contraction of God be with ye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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