Square Wheels Posted June 16, 2022 Share #51 Posted June 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Bring your gun. Only one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 16, 2022 Share #52 Posted June 16, 2022 14 hours ago, team scooter said: My first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 16, 2022 Share #53 Posted June 16, 2022 56 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Only one? Good call. I would suggest an MP5 as your primary entry gun. Small, compact, automatic. Squeeze the foregrip and the light comes on. 9mm round hopefully won't penetrate nearly as much around you if you let it eat on full auto. Of course you will want a handgun on your side as backup and probably a 12 gauge with a sling over your shoulder. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 16, 2022 Share #54 Posted June 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: Good call. I would suggest an MP5 as your primary entry gun. Small, compact, automatic. Squeeze the foregrip and the light comes on. 9mm round hopefully won't penetrate nearly as much around you if you let it eat on full auto. Of course you will want a handgun on your side as backup and probably a 12 gauge with a sling over your shoulder. Isn't the general advice "Fire. Kill it with fire"???? Seems like we're missing an opportunity to really test that advice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 16, 2022 Share #55 Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Isn't the general advice "Fire. Kill it with fire"???? Seems like we're missing an opportunity to really test that advice. I don't hate this plan at all. But if we're going that route maybe we should just do the Jesse Ventura "painless" thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 16, 2022 Share #56 Posted June 16, 2022 Just now, Parr8hed said: I don't hate this plan at all. But if we're going that route maybe we should just do the Jesse Ventura "painless" thing? Sadly, we know what happened to Jesse Heck, to all of them except Arnold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 16, 2022 Share #57 Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: Sadly, we know what happened to Jesse Heck, to all of them except Arnold. Guess he had to MAKE time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 16, 2022 Share #58 Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Kzoo said: Bring your gun. And the nails to put in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 16, 2022 Share #59 Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Parr8hed said: Good call. I would suggest an MP5 as your primary entry gun. Small, compact, automatic. Squeeze the foregrip and the light comes on. 9mm round hopefully won't penetrate nearly as much around you if you let it eat on full auto. Of course you will want a handgun on your side as backup and probably a 12 gauge with a sling over your shoulder. Will that kill a demagorgon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 16, 2022 Share #60 Posted June 16, 2022 On a serious note, I recently picked up a wifi boroscope on Amazon for about $20. Seriously helpful tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 16, 2022 Share #61 Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, 12string said: On a serious note, I recently picked up a wifi boroscope on Amazon for about $20. Seriously helpful tool Home colonoscopy kit? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 16, 2022 Share #62 Posted June 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Home colonoscopy kit? I considered that, but you still need a prescription for the cleanout chemicals, and there's no way I'm drinking that much Bud Light instead, 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 16, 2022 Share #63 Posted June 16, 2022 It was not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 16, 2022 Share #64 Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Razors Edge said: Sadly, we know what happened to Jesse Heck, to all of them except Arnold. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 16, 2022 Share #65 Posted June 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, 12string said: I considered that, but you still need a prescription for the cleanout chemicals, and there's no way I'm drinking that much Bud Light instead, Over the counter Miralax and Gatorade work just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Beanz Posted June 16, 2022 Share #66 Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Razors Edge said: Sadly, we know what happened to Jesse Heck, to all of them except Arnold. Actually, I believe one guy and the braless chick made it to the chopper. 😃 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 16, 2022 Share #67 Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, 12string said: Will that kill a demagorgon? I had to google that. If an MP5, a 12 gauge and a handgun would NOT kill it then I would not want to meet it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 16, 2022 Share #68 Posted June 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: I had to google that. If an MP5, a 12 gauge and a handgun would NOT kill it then I would not want to meet it. Then you probably shouldn't hang at Chris;'s house for a bit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted June 16, 2022 Share #69 Posted June 16, 2022 A topic of this significance should be pinned to the top of the forum. Also we should keep a close eye open for white supremecysts who try to infiltrate. And the reliculous nuts who see spiritual beings in the damage and are keeping vigil watching for the four oarsmen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted June 16, 2022 Share #70 Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, donkpow said: A topic of this significance should be pinned to the top of the forum. Also we should keep a close eye open for white supremecysts who try to infiltrate. And the reliculous nuts who see spiritual beings in the damage and are keeping vigil watching for the four oarsmen. Are you drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted June 16, 2022 Share #71 Posted June 16, 2022 Just now, Kzoo said: Are you drunk? Pin it! Pin it! Pin it! Quick before the Demogogues tax it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 16, 2022 Share #72 Posted June 16, 2022 48 minutes ago, 12string said: Then you probably shouldn't hang at Chris;'s house for a bit Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Chris since we confirmed he as a demagorgon living in his attic??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted June 16, 2022 Share #73 Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Speaking of which, has anyone heard from Chris since we confirmed he as a demagorgon living in his attic??? No. Well I guess we'll never fond out the answer to the puzzling holes. Sucks to be us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 16, 2022 Share #74 Posted June 16, 2022 Just now, Kzoo said: Sucks to be us. I mean, we still live thousands of miles from there, so that’s a very good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisL Posted June 22, 2022 Author Popular Post Share #75 Posted June 22, 2022 OK so an update: There is drywall along the inside of the roof where the common wall is for fire code. A big section of the dry wall came down, probably in chunks causing the two holes. So in a nutshell falling drywall caused the holes. The engineering firm believes it’s due to settling as the drywall is dry and recommends the dry wall is resecured & replaced to be compliant with fire code. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 22, 2022 Share #76 Posted June 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, ChrisL said: OK so an update: There is drywall along the inside of the roof where the common wall is for fire code. A big section of the dry wall came down, probably in chunks causing the two holes. So in a nutshell falling drywall caused the holes. The engineering firm believes it’s due to settling as the drywall is dry and recommends the dry wall is resecured & replaced to be compliant with fire code. that is kinda anti climactic. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 22, 2022 Share #77 Posted June 22, 2022 settling caused the drywall to just fall off? They should have used more scotch tape? This is 100% on the builder, that just doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 22, 2022 Share #78 Posted June 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, ChrisL said: The engineering firm believes it’s due to settling as the drywall is dry and recommends the dry wall is resecured & replaced to be compliant with fire code. Let's be 100% clear: engineers are a bunch of Karen's, and fire code, schmire code! Suckers follow the rules. Tough guys live without fear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 22, 2022 Share #79 Posted June 22, 2022 big span on those rafters. Not enough support for the drywall so it bowed and then failed I bet. Do you get seismic activity? They need to add some bracing between rafters to better secure the drywall and maybe use some sort of washer to increase surface area of the fastener heads. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted June 22, 2022 Share #80 Posted June 22, 2022 29 minutes ago, ChrisL said: The engineering firm believes it’s due to settling as the drywall is dry I can see how one might come to that conclusion. To me the picture brings some additional insights: The sheetrock that fell left the nails/screws in the rafters and bits of sheetrock around the nails (red circles). That means the nails didn't pull out, but the sheetrock was too heavy to be supported by the combined surface area of all the nail heads. In short, the sheetrock weight pulled the nail heads through the sheetrock. This happened because the span between the rafters (red line) is too great. To keep this from happening again, the sheet rock should be installed with a greater number of nails/screws. It's also possible the installer punched the screws too deep into the sheetrock, thus weakening it and setting up the failure. They could also put strips over the sheetrock along the lines where it's nailed to help spread out the load, but I doubt there's a UL listed fire rated assembly for that type of construction. Each of the penetrations through the sheetrock should have a fire rated assembly around it. The pipe going through the sheetrock (orange square) looks like there's just a hole cut in the sheetrock where the pipe passes. Unless this hole is filled with a fire rated assembly, any fire will simply bypass the whole 'fire wall' construction, rendering it useless. Example of an assembly: Lastly it appears the workmanship wasn't the best quality - evidenced by the sheetrock tape peeling (yellow ovals). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted June 22, 2022 Share #81 Posted June 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Let's be 100% clear: engineers are a bunch of Karen's I'm so disappointed with your filthy mouth and your bad attitude! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted June 22, 2022 Share #82 Posted June 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: I'm so disappointed with your filthy mouth and your bad attitude! You should ask demand to speak to the manager! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted June 22, 2022 Share #83 Posted June 22, 2022 25 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: that is kinda anti climactic. I'd change that to "anti climb attic". 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 22, 2022 Share #84 Posted June 22, 2022 I'm still holding out for some clumsy stalker accidently knocking the sheet rock down while attempting to tunnel through. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share #85 Posted June 22, 2022 36 minutes ago, jsharr said: big span on those rafters. Not enough support for the drywall so it bowed and then failed I bet. Do you get seismic activity? They need to add some bracing between rafters to better secure the drywall and maybe use some sort of washer to increase surface area of the fastener heads. Do we get seismic activity he says!?!? 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 22, 2022 Share #86 Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: I can see how one might come to that conclusion. To me the picture brings some additional insights: The sheetrock that fell left the nails/screws in the rafters and bits of sheetrock around the nails (red circles). That means the nails didn't pull out, but the sheetrock was too heavy to be supported by the combined surface area of all the nail heads. In short, the sheetrock weight pulled the nail heads through the sheetrock. This happened because the span between the rafters (red line) is too great. To keep this from happening again, the sheet rock should be installed with a greater number of nails/screws. It's also possible the installer punched the screws too deep into the sheetrock, thus weakening it and setting up the failure. They could also put strips over the sheetrock along the lines where it's nailed to help spread out the load, but I doubt there's a UL listed fire rated assembly for that type of construction. Each of the penetrations through the sheetrock should have a fire rated assembly around it. The pipe going through the sheetrock (orange square) looks like there's just a hole cut in the sheetrock where the pipe passes. Unless this hole is filled with a fire rated assembly, any fire will simply bypass the whole 'fire wall' construction, rendering it useless. Example of an assembly: Lastly it appears the workmanship wasn't the best quality - evidenced by the sheetrock tape peeling (yellow ovals). in summary, the builders figgered the place would burn to the ground before anyone noticed the awful sheetrock job. At least they had a plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 22, 2022 Share #87 Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: I'm so disappointed with your filthy mouth and your bad attitude! I was gonna use "Nancy" but didn't want to piss @Longjohn off (or confuse folks here further). Karen is a good back-up name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 22, 2022 Share #88 Posted June 22, 2022 2 hours ago, ChrisL said: OK so an update: There is drywall along the inside of the roof where the common wall is for fire code. A big section of the dry wall came down, probably in chunks causing the two holes. So in a nutshell falling drywall caused the holes. The engineering firm believes it’s due to settling as the drywall is dry and recommends the dry wall is resecured & replaced to be compliant with fire code. This looks like the closing scene to the Blair Witch Project. Just before the camera goes black. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted June 22, 2022 Author Share #89 Posted June 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: This looks like the closing scene to the Blair Witch Project. Just before the camera goes black. It wasn’t that creepy up there. That and the engineer was up there shining his light. The demons would have gotten him first! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted June 22, 2022 Share #90 Posted June 22, 2022 5 hours ago, Parr8hed said: that is kinda anti climactic. Agreed. Make up a better answer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted June 22, 2022 Share #91 Posted June 22, 2022 2 hours ago, ChrisL said: The demons would have gotten him first! Do you the last engineer that went to hell got kicked out? He got kicked out because he air conditioned the place... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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