Change

[Airehead]

Is change possible without discomfort and stress?

[Kzoo]

yes

[Parsnip Totin Jack ★]

I think so. I believe it requires an understanding that change can be beneficial if you understand the reasons for change. Many times that is not communicated well and the response is confusion and resistance to change. You need to have an effective marketing campaign for the change or there will be more resistance. Understanding equals acceptance. 

[Airehead]

4 minutes ago, Kzoo said:

yes

I am taking an adaptive leadership course.  I'm interested in an example of a time a change was made without stress and discomfort.

I think I am taking the other side in this debate and am thinking if people are too comfortable with the status quo they see no need for change.

[Kzoo]

1 minute ago, Airehead said:

I think I am taking the other side in this debate and am thinking if people are too comfortable with the status quo they see no need for change.

While that’s certainly true, it does not mean all change has to include stress.  In some cases, change has just the opposite effect… relief.

[Thaddeus Kosciuszko]

3 minutes ago, Airehead said:

I'm interested in an example of a time a change was made without stress and discomfort.

Then first you'll have to define what 'stress' and 'discomfort' mean.  Otherwise any example you give can be negated by someone who holds a different concept of those terms.

 

For many people, getting a new phone is wonderful.  Perhaps some inconvenience to learn new things, but no 'stress' or 'discomfort'.

 

5 minutes ago, Old No. 7 said:

Understanding equals acceptance. 

Quite true.  Understanding equals acceptance because people know what to expect, and then find during the course of the change that their expectations are met.

[KrAzY]

It depends on what size denominations and how much you carry around in your pockets. It also stops you from being able to sneak up on someone. The more quarters you carry could also wreak havoc on your spine or knees.  

[Airehead]

7 minutes ago, Kzoo said:

While that’s certainly true, it does not mean all change has to include stress.  In some cases, change has just the opposite effect… relief.

I agree that relief, joy, and success are often the result of change.

[Airehead]

3 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said:

Then first you'll have to define what 'stress' and 'discomfort' mean.  Otherwise any example you give can be negated by someone who holds a different concept of those terms.

 

For many people, getting a new phone is wonderful.  Perhaps some inconvenience to learn new things, but no 'stress' or 'discomfort'.

 

Quite true.  Understanding equals acceptance because people know what to expect, and then find during the course of the change that their expectations are met.

And understanding takes work

4 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said:

Then first you'll have to define what 'stress' and 'discomfort' mean.  Otherwise any example you give can be negated by someone who holds a different concept of those terms.

 

 

Agreed.

[Wilbur ★]

Depends on the amount of change and whether it is personal or not. 

[Airehead]

It is an interesting topic to reflect on especially if change management is part of the job-- like mine and many others.

My final thought is: Severity of change needed > Resources = stress

[Airehead]

2 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Depends on the amount of change and whether it is personal or not. 

similar to the equation I just shared--- hmm, need to add level of connection or something to it

[maddmaxx ★]

Many do not like change at all.  If they are comfortable then they want to stay comfortable.

[Ralphie ★]

Change is bad.  How can anyone possibly disagree with Kirby?  Well?

[Road Runner]

Change isn't worth much these days.  Just a pain in the ass to carry around in your pocket or purse.  Could be some slight discomfort and stress, I suppose.   

[Ralphie ★]

7 minutes ago, Road Runner said:

Change isn't worth much these days.  Just a pain in the ass to carry around in your pocket or purse.  Could be some slight discomfort and stress, I suppose.   

Quarters are an ok emergency backup for small items.  Other change is pretty useless.

[Ralphie ★]

The definitive word on change.

 

[Road Runner]

Volume.  That's what we do.  

[Scrapr ★]

maybe it's better for other people to change than for yourself to change. And much easier on yourself too!

[Ralphie ★]

6 minutes ago, Road Runner said:

Volume.  That's what we do.  

Phil Hartman's was good.

[Longjohn ★]

Yes change is possible without discomfort and stress. You have to unbutton your shirt, undo your belt and unzip your pants and untie your shoes. It makes changing much easier.

[Parsnip Totin Jack ★]

1 hour ago, Philander Seabury said:

Change is bad.  How can anyone possibly disagree with Kirby?  Well?

One cannot get to Christmas without going through summer. As is written in the book of Kirby, Chapter 4, verse 20.

[shootingstar]

2 hours ago, Airehead said:

I am taking an adaptive leadership course.  I'm interested in an example of a time a change was made without stress and discomfort.

I think I am taking the other side in this debate and am thinking if people are too comfortable with the status quo they see no need for change.

workplace examples:

• The river flood in our city which caused over $1 billion worth damage, changed some people whose job was directly affected.  The resistance to digitization of key business process broke down when some employees still had to go into the office to scan certain docs., because process was not computerized from end to end.
• Also people who knew their jobs were key, it all got so magnified what they had to do during a major natural disaster. It was for some people a career defining time. The meaning of public service became so true.
• Then covid..last 2 yrs. really accelerated depts. in our organization to go more electronic. Some ended up with a mess of digital documents. Pre-covid it was only 3,000 docs. daily, going into our central system. Now it's 10,000+ new docs. flowing. There are some incredible things going on...40,000? in 1 day. 

Unfortunately people tend to not change until they see the benefit either for self/larger group as  a whole, long-term. Change in how different people can work together more often and positively /respectfully can take some time. Sometimes it's just too hard/stressful...and the focus needs to be on the next generation.

 

[shootingstar]

Airhead...change might be possible among different/opposing parties....when there is collective effort to cope during a major disaster. It can be natural disaster or multiple people who got hurt.  

covid....was a worldwide pandemic.  And it ..still..is.

[Kirby]

In theory, it's probably possible, but not when I'm involved.  Even when I know change is going to be good, it's still stressful for me.  I think it's more about the people involved than the change itself.

[maddmaxx ★]

My first reaction to unexpected change is 1.  Why?  and 2.  Now what!

[Longjohn ★]

When I bought food on the bike tour I left them keep the change. Where are you going to put coins in a bike jersey?

[shootingstar]

4 hours ago, Airehead said:

Is change possible without discomfort and stress?

Sometimes change has already happened right under a person's nose but they didn't "see" it because they were not informed, because their family never lived that past reality....nearly 100 yrs. ago, even though these past events, past legislation,  it's still all in the same country I'm talking about which is Canada or even U.S.

[Bikeguy]

4 hours ago, maddmaxx said:

If they are comfortable then they want to stay comfortable.

 

[Bikeguy]

4 hours ago, Airehead said:

Is change possible without discomfort and stress?

Maybe...   but most often..   no. 

[Wilbur ★]

3 minutes ago, Bikeguy said:

 

Watters resisted jean style changes.  He rocks the same mom jeans Obama does.   

[Bikeguy]

Just now, Wilbur said:

Watters resisted jean style changes.

So... he doesn't like change either. 

[Dottleshead ★]

5 hours ago, Airehead said:

Is change possible without discomfort and stress?

 

4 hours ago, Kzoo said:

yes

Seconded  

[Airehead]

1 hour ago, Longjohn said:

When I bought food on the bike tour I left them keep the change. Where are you going to put coins in a bike jersey?

Did you get pie?

[Longjohn ★]

2 minutes ago, Airehead said:

Did you get pie?

I did. It wasn’t grape but close.

[sheep_herder ★]

16 hours ago, Airehead said:

I am taking an adaptive leadership course.  I'm interested in an example of a time a change was made without stress and discomfort.

I think I am taking the other side in this debate and am thinking if people are too comfortable with the status quo they see no need for change.

I think this varies by the individuals within a group. Some will fight change regardless of the out put, while others go with the flow. As mentioned by others, communicating the reason for change is critical, as I am one that resists change for change sake alone.

[maddmaxx ★]

25 minutes ago, sheep_herder said:

I think this varies by the individuals within a group. Some will fight change regardless of the out put, while others go with the flow. As mentioned by others, communicating the reason for change is critical, as I am one that resists change for change sake alone.

This change just for change is often a factor in why people are suspicious of change.  My favorite LGS had one of the best apps and online sales flyers in the business which had a lot to do with why I shopped there.  Suddenly the new and improved app was in place and it is a disaster.  They have lost a lot of my business (as if they care)

I've worked with some programming departments where transparent code was often considered dangerous to the employment of those who wanted to be the only magicians who could deal with problems and where "change" was often implemented just to show management that they were hard at work.

Why are we always suspicious of the next version of Windows???  Will it really be better? 

[Ralphie ★]

46 minutes ago, maddmaxx said:

This change just for change is often a factor in why people are suspicious of change.  My favorite LGS had one of the best apps and online sales flyers in the business which had a lot to do with why I shopped there.  Suddenly the new and improved app was in place and it is a disaster.  They have lost a lot of my business (as if they care)

I've worked with some programming departments where transparent code was often considered dangerous to the employment of those who wanted to be the only magicians who could deal with problems and where "change" was often implemented just to show management that they were hard at work.

Why are we always suspicious of the next version of Windows???  Will it really be better? 

The every few years rearrangement of grocery store layouts comes to mind for this. 

[maddmaxx ★]

3 hours ago, Philander Seabury said:

The every few years rearrangement of grocery store layouts comes to mind for this. 

Done because "marketing" specialists know a "better" way.  Otherwise it's done because the newer market down the street looks better and cleaner and has a pretty veggie and deli department.  I actually prefer the warehouse style box your own stuff but pay a lower price places.