Dottleshead ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #51 Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, groupw said: I participated in a few of his threads sometimes against my better judgement. But I would usually say my thoughts and get out. There was still some “not right” vibe going on. I was reading the verbose thread and figured he didn’t understand what it meant. We tease @MickinMD and @shootingstar, but I generally enjoy their threads. Hell, I know I get verbose sometimes! But the thread was closed before I could read the main meltdown. Probably just as well. Yes, but you get verbose in all the right places. Keep that up and I'm going to hit on you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottwantstoride Posted August 19, 2022 Share #52 Posted August 19, 2022 Went to link and there is a part two to the rant and he’s added more colorful wording beyond. Well you know what Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted August 19, 2022 Share #53 Posted August 19, 2022 9 hours ago, MoseySusan said: I’m sorry for the role my comment played in this. I thought it was tongue-in-cheek. Most of you probably knew it was kerosene on a smoldering pile. No apology needed from my perspective. No one should insult anyone’s family in any way. I obviously missed some posts because I would have come out swinging on behalf of your loved ones. I am going to refrain from other comments. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #54 Posted August 19, 2022 Wakes up, looks around....................was that a plane or a bus? Missed it. Don't care. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted August 19, 2022 Share #55 Posted August 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Square Wheels said: he's not here to defend himself - I do feel it's a little unfair for that reason, but he lost the privilege to be here. I think you have the right to express your opinions and emotional responses to what transpired. It’s your forum. He’s got his own venue for expressing himself, and he’s not showing any such restraint. So I wouldn’t give it much further thought. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted August 19, 2022 Share #56 Posted August 19, 2022 😮 @Square Wheels, sorry you’ve had to deal with this. @MoseySusan, 🤗 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Randomguy Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share #57 Posted August 19, 2022 Can we change the forum name to "Verbose Cycling Forum" for a day? 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted August 19, 2022 Share #58 Posted August 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Can we change the forum name to "Verbose Cycling Forum" for a day? Not to pile on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted August 19, 2022 Share #59 Posted August 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Can we change the forum name to "Verbose Cycling Forum" for a day? Or maybe, "Asshole Cycling". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted August 19, 2022 Share #60 Posted August 19, 2022 13 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Not to pile on. Well, I didn't comment much regarding his posts the other day. However, since the blog piled on, I thought it time to move to a more constructive action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #61 Posted August 19, 2022 Wow. I just read Beanz blog and it made me worry about his mental health. As others mentioned, he's been kicked of many forums over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #62 Posted August 19, 2022 I'm mixed on this as ever. I think, for sure, supporting and defending Mosey or others is the right thing to do. Pure and simple, that sort of nonsense is wrong. Of course, as "humans", we also ALL make a lot of shitastic mistakes in life. Ones that are typewritten and preserved for future analysis are really tough to wiggle out of or correct post writing them. It creates a place (the internet) where you either back down (and look weak) or double down (and go apeshit). There IS a middle ground, but we've seen that erode in public life quite quickly these days. I'll miss any former members' "normal" stuff - especially cycling related - but obviously, you can't easily keep self-destructive rants from occurring and needing to respond to them. I've seen as bad comments by and directed at folks here quite a few times and still those folks are active members, but I think "cooling off" is generally enough to reset them for a while. I don't know that it works with everyone though, and we lost another poster who I usually - not always - enjoyed reading posts from. But I'm a sucker for posts about cycling and posts about SoCal, so now I just have @ChrisL to fill that niche again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share #63 Posted August 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Or maybe, "Asshole Cycling". I was going to but thought it might not be appropriate for all. Not all of us earned that title. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share #64 Posted August 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I'm mixed on this as ever. I think, for sure, supporting and defending Mosey or others is the right thing to do. Pure and simple, that sort of nonsense is wrong. Of course, as "humans", we also ALL make a lot of shitastic mistakes in life. Ones that are typewritten and preserved for future analysis are really tough to wiggle out of or correct post writing them. It creates a place (the internet) where you either back down (and look weak) or double down (and go apeshit). There IS a middle ground, but we've seen that erode in public life quite quickly these days. I'll miss any former members' "normal" stuff - especially cycling related - but obviously, you can't easily keep self-destructive rants from occurring and needing to respond to them. I've seen as bad comments by and directed at folks here quite a few times and still those folks are active members, but I think "cooling off" is generally enough to reset them for a while. I don't know that it works with everyone though, and we lost another poster who I usually - not always - enjoyed reading posts from. But I'm a sucker for posts about cycling and posts about SoCal, so now I just have @ChrisL to fill that niche again. Keep in mind this isn't his first meltdown. He's been banned here before, and I made the bad call of letting him back in. He usually follows up my polite requests for cooling off with horrific rants by PM. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Razors Edge ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share #65 Posted August 19, 2022 Just now, Square Wheels said: Keep in mind this isn't his first meltdown. He's been banned here before, and I made the bad call of letting him back in. He usually follows up my polite requests for cooling off with horrific rants by PM. Keep in mind - I am 100% behind you on this and ALL efforts you make to wrangle this place into a semi-orderly place that is fun and active. 100%. You do NOT have an EASY task, and we all appreciate it. You tried with him. His loss, for sure. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted August 19, 2022 Share #66 Posted August 19, 2022 42 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Or maybe, "Asshole Cycling". The people who post at AC are full of crap. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #67 Posted August 19, 2022 28 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Not all of us earned that title. Can they add it as a "badge"? I'm sure, with some guidelines and a goal, I could earn it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted August 19, 2022 Share #68 Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: Can we change the forum name to "Verbose Cycling Forum" for a day? I prefer loquacious... 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #69 Posted August 19, 2022 He's definitely wound too tight and I, too, feel sorry for him. With all the problems in the world, this site is a refuge and comfort and yes, we tease each other, but it's always friendly and very often people go out of their way to be helpful and I'm grateful for that! If you want an example people really trying to destroy reputations, think back to the old LF forum. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #70 Posted August 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Zealot said: I prefer loquacious... That is an excellent word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted August 19, 2022 Share #71 Posted August 19, 2022 You know, we all eventually show our hands in this great celestial poker game. One can only bluff for so long. Eventually someone calls it. I’ve witnessed several of these blow ups over the years. (I did not witness this one) It seems to me, in retrospect, that the volatility was always there. I always hope that cooler heads prevail. @Square Wheels, stay the course. The higher road is always the better way. Peace. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #72 Posted August 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, Wilbur said: That is an excellent word. How about bodacious cycling? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted August 19, 2022 Share #73 Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Square Wheels said: Keep in mind this isn't his first meltdown. He's been banned here before, and I made the bad call of letting him back in. He usually follows up my polite requests for cooling off with horrific rants by PM. At the time it seemed like a good call and once we discovered who he was, you did let him know a condition of his staying here was based on his civil behavior. He blew it, not you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #74 Posted August 19, 2022 If he would have just highlighted the word and clicked on “look up” this all could have been avoided. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dirtyhip Posted August 19, 2022 Popular Post Share #75 Posted August 19, 2022 Squarewheels would start those kind of threads to call out the members in a funny and playful way. It was like a Mr. Rogers moment. That is always how it felt to me. I think he called me out for something embarrassing in one of those threads through the years. It was like poking a sibling. Possibly we should try and not be wound so tight. I think he made fun of me for losing my clothes after a commute. Eh, the stories were ridiculous. 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #76 Posted August 19, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Squarewheels would start those kind of threads to call out the members in a funny and playful way. It was like a Mr. Rogers moment. That is always how it felt to me. I think he called me out for something embarrassing in one of those threads through the years. It was like poking a sibling. Possibly we should try and not be wound so tight. I think he made fun of me for losing my clothes after a commute. Eh, the stories were ridiculous. The comment I wanted to make was if 9 oot of 10 people take a comment in fun, just maybe that is the appropriate way to interpret it. But it was probably too late for that, the fuse was lit. I keep telling this story, but I sort of did the same thing when I made some joke aboot PEDs and a love forumite took great offense. I argued that I just aboot always post in jest and good fun, but he left anyhoo and I felt bad because I liked him. Reading into stuff is a dangerous game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted August 19, 2022 Share #77 Posted August 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: The comment I wanted to make was if 9 oot of 10 people take a comment in fun, just maybe that is the appropriate way to interpret it. But it was probably too late for that, the fuse was lit. Firecrackers burn down forests here. I've been avoiding them for a long while. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #78 Posted August 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Firecrackers burn down forests here. I've been aoiding them for a long while. Yup. The Far Side has many comics with the theme “trouble brewing”. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #79 Posted August 19, 2022 40 minutes ago, Longjohn said: If he would have just highlighted the word and clicked on “look up” this all could have been avoided. People do misinterpret the meaning of words and that misinterpretation is what they act on. I think he read the definition the way he wanted to see it. There was definitely a strong hint of societal disapproval in his post and that happens a lot these days. People let themselves become enraged over a simple difference of opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #80 Posted August 19, 2022 12 hours ago, Randomguy said: I thought it was my knowing look and quiet confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted August 19, 2022 Share #81 Posted August 19, 2022 36 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: The comment I wanted to make was if 9 oot of 10 people take a comment in fun, just maybe that is the appropriate way to interpret it. But it was probably too late for that, the fuse was lit. I keep telling this story, but I sort of did the same thing when I made some joke aboot PEDs and a love forumite took great offense. I argued that I just aboot always post in jest and good fun, but he left anyhoo and I felt bad because I liked him. Reading into stuff is a dangerous game. The internet is for the thickest of skins, or at least medium skinned people. I must admit it is difficult to pick up nuance in print form, absent all the visual cues that we evolved to process when interacting. If you look for the worst in a post, you will find it. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted August 19, 2022 Share #82 Posted August 19, 2022 Speaking of banned poster from PA, I found this earlier and thought of the best rants the forum has experienced: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted August 19, 2022 Share #83 Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Dirtyhip said: It was like poking a sibling. Good description of this place. We PO each other, we get over it and joke with each other. @Square Wheels, you did the right thing. It was inevitable, guy's got issues. Thanks for all you do! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #84 Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: The internet is for the thickest of skins, or at least medium skinned people. I must admit it is difficult to pick up nuance in print form, absent all the visual cues that we evolved to process when interacting. If you look for the worst in a post, you will find it. A forumite actually called that, said the thread was a skin thickness test. Turned oot to be incredibly prescient, if that word means what I think it does, and I hope it does! It does! I still got it. pre·scient /ˈpreSH(ē)ənt/ Learn to pronounce adjective adjective: prescient having or showing knowledge of events before they take place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted August 19, 2022 Share #85 Posted August 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Square Wheels said: and I made the bad kind and generous call of letting him back in. There. I fixed it for you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #86 Posted August 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: There. I fixed it for you. That re-entry was weird. At first I though Oh no, not this shit again, and I was very apprehensive, but then Beanz won me over with many good and interesting posts. Then he supernovad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted August 19, 2022 Share #87 Posted August 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: At first I though Oh no, not this shit again, and I was very apprehensive He had a few awkward steps along the way, threatening to leave at slights that were not perceivable to me. I figured I just didn’t know the backstory, but now I’d guess he was just looking for criticism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted August 19, 2022 Share #88 Posted August 19, 2022 22 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: That re-entry was weird. At first I though Oh no, not this shit again, and I was very apprehensive, but then Beanz won me over with many good and interesting posts. Then he supernovad. He and I had our moments before. I had no interest in interacting with him when he returned. I ignored most of his threads and most of his comments. I only commented on one of his posts because I I thought it was out of line - and he jumped all over that. Anyone who has gotten thrown out of his mother's house (by his mother) for posting nude pics of his wife on-line, talks about his wife's great boobs all over the interweb, cannot tell me he had no sexual connotation to his wife-swap thread. I called him on it and he blew up (as you can see from his blog post). That was the only interaction I had with him since his return. I tried to avoid him like the COVID (other than that one call out). It was only a matter of time and the clock bell has rung. @MoseySusan commented on his ego (with a smiley). But she was correct. If egos could be verbose his ego would fill a couple volumes. (see what I did there?) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan Posted August 19, 2022 Share #89 Posted August 19, 2022 7 hours ago, scottwantstoride said: Went to link and there is a part two to the rant and he’s added more colorful wording beyond. Well you know what Ableism and clearly stating he’s good with “attacking the transgender.” Bless his heart. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldendesign Posted August 19, 2022 Share #90 Posted August 19, 2022 Well I missed the fun. I responded to him a few times but in general stayed away as his views on life were troubling to the way I view things. Incompatible. The most recent one where he was making profound belief that alcoholism isn't a sickness. I felt compelled to share my experience as a minor way to show that is far from true. He marginalized an entire group with some self-deflection and completely missed the point nor attempted to learn from the discussion. In all the forums I've been privy too with him in it; I have found that to be continually true. The post on his own blog was poorly worded, incoherent, and obviously unhinged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Share #91 Posted August 19, 2022 I tended..like @Kzoo to avoid his stuff..limited exposure..after previous experiences with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Dottleshead ★ Posted August 19, 2022 Solution Share #92 Posted August 19, 2022 i like pie. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 6 Share #93 Posted January 6 I wonder what he did to lose his job in QC? That was a good job, he must have had a meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted January 6 Author Share #94 Posted January 6 I restored the missing image in the first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted January 6 Share #95 Posted January 6 Beanz was banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted January 6 Author Share #96 Posted January 6 Just now, maddmaxx said: Beanz was banned? More than once. He's not welcome back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 6 Share #97 Posted January 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted January 6 Share #98 Posted January 6 That was an insane rant but he scratched on a few truths. There are no innocents in the forum scraps. There is a posse mentality. There are people who defend their posse without really examining the issues. Welcome to the post 2016 world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 6 Share #99 Posted January 6 11 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Welcome to the post 2016 world. That’s when I retired. Did I cause that? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted January 6 Share #100 Posted January 6 2 minutes ago, Longjohn said: That’s when I retired. Did I cause that? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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