Be interviewed on public video: Talk about your job & reveal salary?

[shootingstar]

Would you? I'm not so sure I want to reveal salary on camera.  (although public sector job salaries are open info.) I could talk about salary range..  Canadian Income 🇨🇦 (@canadianincome) TikTok | Watch Canadian Income 🇨🇦's Newest TikTok Videos

[ChrisL]

 I’d likely give a range. 

[shootingstar]

16 minutes ago, ChrisL said:

 I’d likely give a range. 

It amuses me seeing some of the salaries...until you listen to the interview.  Other salaries are not a surprise.

I want to be convinced that a bartender earns $80,000-$100,000.  THat's probably rare and at more higher end place unless it has alot of high roller customers. I  know that people talk about tips and all.  But this is what I heard:  only during the Calgary Stampede and depending where one works...a server could roll in $2,000 in tips over 10 day period. But they would be working pretty hard and long hrs. for this.  That's it. Rest of year is more struggling along.

AND probably if customers were smart enough just to give the money straight to the server...not add it to the bill. You have no idea if tip is shared.

[shootingstar]

Some of the street off-the-cuff interviews were interesting. He only asks about 5 questions...same ones to each person. However within the first 5 min., the street interview reveals the person's communication style, personality traits...one can see for certain people they would fine in their chosen job.

The interviews are conducted in downtown Toronto, certain ones right in the heart of Canada's financial district. Toronto genuinely is Canada's national financial district --all the big national /global firms in finance, consulting, etc. are headquartered there.

[goldendesign]

Sure I would. I think transparency in salary is a huge deal. It also is highly dependent on multiple variables to be determined:

• Location (COL comparison)
• Years experience
• Education
• Industry

In a sub Reddit I frequent often, there are consistent surveys of the Data Engineers, System Ops, DevOps, and SRE's to see what stacks up where.

[JerrySTL ★]

Many places where I worked, revealing your salary was cause to be fired.

[Razors Edge ★]

1 hour ago, goldendesign said:

Sure I would. I think transparency in salary is a huge deal. It also is highly dependent on multiple variables to be determined:

• Location (COL comparison)
• Years experience
• Education
• Industry

In a sub Reddit I frequent often, there are consistent surveys of the Data Engineers, System Ops, DevOps, and SRE's to see what stacks up where.

Anonymous surveys and self-selecting surveys must have pretty interesting results.  As a "data guy" how do you suss out the real numbers?

The WSJ ran an interesting story about the NHLs players learning salaries and how it impacted play.  

[bikeman564™]

No. I'm very secretive w/ money.

[Kirby ★]

That's a little too much sharing for my preference.

[MickinMD ★]

9 hours ago, shootingstar said:

Would you? I'm not so sure I want to reveal salary on camera.  (although public sector job salaries are open info.) I could talk about salary range..  Canadian Income 🇨🇦 (@canadianincome) TikTok | Watch Canadian Income 🇨🇦's Newest TikTok Videos

When I switched from industrial research chemist to public school teacher, the teacher salaries were public knowledge but our public school systems in Maryland are countywide and mine is the 35th largest school system in the USA, which means thousands of teachers, so only the salary range would be known about me unless people went to the trouble to figure out my years of service, grad degree increase, advanced certification, sports coach pay, chess coach pay, etc.  So I'd just answer, "I have a typical county school teacher's salary," and if they asked for more I'd say, "You can look it up."

[shootingstar]

1 hour ago, JerrySTL said:

Many places where I worked, revealing your salary was cause to be fired.

I'm not familiar with this, Jerry. I worked in 2 global firms and 1 national firm also.  Not that I knew people's salaries but I don't recall signing anything for non-disclosure of salary.  I was a manager in 1 of the global firms for national operations within a division.

I don't agree with being fired as a matter of principle. The blabber has to take consequences for feeling pressure to perform or causing jealousy. 

It IS an advantage for everyone to know salaries of all jobs in an organization...you feel this working in the public sector. The information is open. I've worked for the Ontario provincial govn't  for 12 yrs. and where I am for 12 yrs. 

[shootingstar]

2 hours ago, goldendesign said:

Sure I would. I think transparency in salary is a huge deal. It also is highly dependent on multiple variables to be determined:

• Location (COL comparison)
• Years experience
• Education
• Industry

In a sub Reddit I frequent often, there are consistent surveys of the Data Engineers, System Ops, DevOps, and SRE's to see what stacks up where.

Well, I would reveal anonymously amongst others who are in the same occupational group/professional association.

and I have since I did belong to professional associations over the decades. 

[Zephyr]

I work for the Fed Govt.  My salary is open source info if someone cared enough to check, but not sure why anyone would.

[JerrySTL ★]

11 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

I'm not familiar with this, Jerry. I worked in 2 global firms and 1 national firm also.  Not that I knew people's salaries but I don't recall signing anything for non-disclosure of salary.  I was a manager in 1 of the global firms for national operations within a division.

It was common in the places that I worked. They didn't want salary bidding wars where people knew what others were making.

Years ago I was doing database consulting work for the HR department of a company. I happened to see the salary and wages tables while doing so. The manager of one department was making less than 3 of his employees. And one of those was a woman who had a low-level job! When I asked the head of HR, she alluded to the woman had a discrimination or sexual harassment issue hanging over the company.

[sheep_herder ★]

4 minutes ago, Zephyr said:

I work for the Fed Govt.  My salary is open source info if someone cared enough to check, but not sure why anyone would.

This was my case for most of my career at universities and for the Gov. South Dakota State actually posted salaries in the local newspaper in the late 60s. I could care less.

[jsharr ★]

I am pretty sure you can find lots of peoples salaries on the SEC Edgar site if they work for a publicly reported company.  Ask me how I know.......

[shootingstar]

10 minutes ago, jsharr said:

I am pretty sure you can find lots of peoples salaries on the SEC Edgar site if they work for a publicly reported company.  Ask me how I know.......

For all jobs in a company?  Anyway, yes that would be much deeper digging.

The thing about my type of job... are job titles and qualifications + experience sometimes can determine pay scale. At least it can in public sector. Just because we're unionized it doesn't mean that much nor does it solve discrepancies.  There is wide disparity even within our organization. 

[Zealot]

There is no possible reason I can think of why anyone would ever interview me, and zero reason why I’d agree to it if anyone asked.

[Further]

I am in a union, all the union pay rates are spelled out in the contract, and everyone knows what other local places pay for similar work. We are losing lots of good workers at all levels to places that pay a few bucks more.

Years ago I worked at Quickcrete, a hellish place to work. The laborers were payed minimum wage and worked to death, the foreman would stand on a catwalk over looking the main mixing area and literally scream at anyone he felt was slacking. Any way, the laborers got a 10 cent raise after 30 days or so, one guy accidently got 20 cents. He told his buddy he had received 20 cents and the buddy went to the office and demanded another dime. They were both fired immediately for being trouble makers. 

[shootingstar]

18 minutes ago, Further said:

I am in a union, all the union pay rates are spelled out in the contract, and everyone knows what other local places pay for similar work. We are losing lots of good workers at all levels to places that pay a few bucks more.

Years ago I worked at Quickcrete, a hellish place to work. The laborers were payed minimum wage and worked to death, the foreman would stand on a catwalk over looking the main mixing area and literally scream at anyone he felt was slacking. Any way, the laborers got a 10 cent raise after 30 days or so, one guy accidently got 20 cents. He told his buddy he had received 20 cents and the buddy went to the office and demanded another dime. They were both fired immediately for being trouble makers. 

Our salary ranges are posted annually on public website.  However, sometimes one has to understand some job details  -- behind the job titles.

I am in a higher salary range because I am in a central corporate team that teaches, supports and guides corporately across 42 depts. We set corporate-wide standards which is in writing and needs to be followed. It affects downstream freedom of info., litgiation, audits, etc.

There are those who are like me but their responsibility is restricted to just their dept.  That said, we are aware of discrepancies of others paid higher but their work responsibilities is confined to just their dept.  All of us belong to 1 union.  It's how internal job standards are interpreted.

But no one is fired for discrepancies. It's just info. that is easily discovered over time...via job ads, etc. It's not hard nor a dirty secret.

[jsharr ★]

51 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

For all jobs in a company?  Anyway, yes that would be much deeper digging.

The thing about my type of job... are job titles and qualifications + experience sometimes can determine pay scale. At least it can in public sector. Just because we're unionized it doesn't mean that much nor does it solve discrepancies.  There is wide disparity even within our organization. 

Executive compensation 

[shootingstar]

2 hours ago, jsharr said:

Executive compensation 

But most of us....aren't after info. about executive compensation. Only as investors we may have some interest.  It's info. about jobs lower in the food chain, under executive.

Mind you, some people are paid at executive level comparable to a different industry, other than the industry they are in. 

[goldendesign]

7 hours ago, JerrySTL said:

Many places where I worked, revealing your salary was cause to be fired.

That's illegal at the federal level.

[shootingstar]

39 minutes ago, goldendesign said:

That's illegal at the federal level.

You mean those who work in govn't....it's illegal for to be fired to reveal salary?  They have to reveal to the public, if asked.

I'm not exactly sure how much our head honcho....City Manager's salary is.  That's the name of position heading any city municipality in Canada.  Probably under $400,000  for a municaplity our size (1.3 million) which really....is low to run an organization with an annual budget over $1 billion with 12,500 employees.  He's just as qualified as any exec....in former career an engineering manager for several different municipalities, has his MBA.  

Well, hell to expand/retrofit one of our water treatment plants which got damaged in the flood...it's costing our city over $1 billion over 5 years.

[shootingstar]

I'm sorry, I don't have much sympathy for all this secrecy in the private sector..within a firm. If this is what capitalism inherently does:  protects those in power, including great salaries and benefits.

Am glad there are national salary surveys among some professions.  

Then I argue, for men and women, salary equity or inequities, can be viewed in your face, ..when working public sector. I really mean this since the information is all public.