Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted October 1, 2022 Share #1 Posted October 1, 2022 Executive Order 022, which, in part, reads: "B. To the fullest extent feasible, beginning January 1, 2024, all new construction submitted for permitting by Affected Entities shall avoid infrastructure, building systems or equipment that can be used for the combustion of fossil fuels, excluding the necessary use for backup emergency generation and process loads, provided that Affected Entities shall avoid the use of backup emergency diesel generators where practicable. This shall not affect the continued operation and maintenance of State or Affected Entity owned or operated electric generating facilities.' So, if you don' t use the combustion of fossil fuels for infrastructure, building systems, or equipment - what energy source is left? Spoiler Electricity! How does one determine where the avoiding the use of backup emergency diesel generators is 'practicable'? Curious, that the order does not affect 'the continued operation and maintenance of State... owned or operated electric generating facilities.' What unintended consequences of this can you imagine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealot Posted October 1, 2022 Share #2 Posted October 1, 2022 Don’t get me started... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted October 1, 2022 Share #3 Posted October 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: What unintended consequences of this can you imagine? More fossil fuel for the rest of us. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted October 1, 2022 Share #4 Posted October 1, 2022 Well I've been thinking about this. I'll be looking for power from Krypton or Grayskull early on. I don't know what I'll do going forward from there.. Probably apply to the Guardians of the Universe to see if I can get a power ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #5 Posted October 1, 2022 Simpletons, the lot of them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #6 Posted October 1, 2022 This will go political because that’s all it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #7 Posted October 1, 2022 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted October 1, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted October 1, 2022 I think it will put a lot of HVAC service and sales companies right out of business, and a good number of people will lose their jobs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #9 Posted October 1, 2022 There is a word that describes our approach to this... if only I could remember it. Oh yeah, "dumbfuckery"! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #10 Posted October 1, 2022 I think practible is aboot as weaselly a word as possible, so you can assign it any meaning you want. No problem! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #11 Posted October 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: So, if you don' t use the combustion of fossil fuels for infrastructure, building systems, or equipment - what energy source is left? I don’t burn fossil fuel. I tried burning coal last year and it was a mess. I went back to burning wood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #12 Posted October 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: I think practible is aboot as weaselly a word as possible, so you can assign it any meaning you want. No problem! Trust me.. if you break an airplane, the feds lawyers will harp very strongly on the differences of "possible" and "practicable". Their definition is the law. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted October 1, 2022 Share #13 Posted October 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Trust me.. if you break an airplane, the feds lawyers will harp very strongly on the differences of "possible" and "practicable". Their definition is the law. Don't think your industry will be 'exempt'. I guess GE will have to take the nuclear powered jet engine they started to develop out of storage soon. From this link The nuclear-powered jet engine: In 1954, GE even put a nuclear-powered jet engine on a test stand in Arco, Idaho. It ran for more than 100 trouble-free hours before the project was shelved. The idea was that the the engine would use heat produced by a nuclear reactor aboard the plane to generate thrust. A plane with these engines could theoretically stay in the air for days and weeks. Although the U.S. Air Force did modify a B-36 Peacemaker bomber to carry a nuclear reactor, it never used the engines. This article links to another Flying on Nuclear, The American Effort to Built a Nuclear Powered Bomber And then there is this... https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160713-could-this-be-the-first-nuclear-powered-airliner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted October 1, 2022 Share #14 Posted October 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: What unintended consequences of this can you imagine? Let see... If 61% of the electric power we use is based on fossil fuel, does that mean we can't use electricity for future construction? 46 minutes ago, Longjohn said: I went back to burning wood. There you have it... no fossil fuels used only renewable fuel. How to Make Electricity by Burning Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #15 Posted October 1, 2022 The whole world is one big catch 22. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #16 Posted October 1, 2022 Want to learn how to make a garage work shop heater out of soda cans? Oh snap. It doesn't work at night or on cloudy days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted October 1, 2022 Share #17 Posted October 1, 2022 5 hours ago, maddmaxx said: Want to learn how to make a garage work shop heater out of soda cans? Oh snap. It doesn't work at night or on cloudy days. I have made a workshop heater out of 55 gallon steel drums. I have also used a 250 gallon fuel oil tank to make a shop heater. The oil tank was overkill. I needed a bigger shop or else shed my clothes and turn on the fan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team scooter Posted October 1, 2022 Share #18 Posted October 1, 2022 The fastest growing business in our town is an HVAC/electrical/plumbing/solar company that tripled in size over the last few years. They cant find and train help fast enough to solve the over a year long wait list for solar installations. https://adamspower.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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