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29 minutes ago, Chris... said:

My wife thinks goulash and beef stroganoff are made with ground beef. Having eaten both in their traditional form I refuse to eat the American version. 

I prefer chili with a very coarse ground beef or very finely cubed beef.  I do not like big chunks of meet in my chili.  I would tend to agree with your wife about beef stroganoff.  I do not make goulash, but I do make a beef stew, and for that, I used cubed stew meat instead of ground beef.  

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1 hour ago, Chris... said:

My wife thinks goulash and beef stroganoff are made with ground beef. Having eaten both in their traditional form I refuse to eat the American version. 

Your wife is WRONG!  

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When my brother and I were young we grew tired of Indonesian food every day and so my mom looked for more “American” dishes to make us.  Spaghetti was one but beef stroganoff was another.  I remember her making it with thin strips of beef. 

Sour cream doesn’t really agree with me though so I haven’t had it in ages.

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33 minutes ago, 12string said:

Of course.  Which is why he's venting here, not telling her she's wrong.

Some people use it.  It is a cheaper version.  I wouldn't necessarily say it is wrong.  Is there really a wrong in cooking, if the chef likes it that way?

Cooking can be fluid and subjective.  Some people use beans in chili.

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2 hours ago, Chris... said:

My wife thinks goulash and beef stroganoff are made with ground beef. Having eaten both in their traditional form I refuse to eat the American version. 

I like both the ground or steak strip versions.

There was an excellent episode of America's Test Kitchen some years ago where they had experimented to see if they could use a cheap cut of steak for Beef Stronganoff.  The traditional recipe uses tenderloin. My brother bought it, $22.99/lb, for our Christmas gathering and it was the best steak I've had in years.  It was so good that no seasoning except a little horseradish was applied.  But Stroganoff has a sauce and that means other cuts can work.

America's Test Kitchen's recipe says: For a beefy stroganoff recipe, we substituted sirloin steak tips for traditional tenderloin. Marinating the meat in soy sauce made it as tender as tenderloin. Pan-roasting the meat in larger pieces developed rich flavor, and letting it rest before cutting it into strips preserved its juiciness. Adding just a touch of sour cream to the sauce completed our ideal beef stroganoff recipe, by providing body and tang without overwhelming the other flavors.

The bastards at ATK and Cook's Country require a paid membership to see their recipes after a year - even though they show old episodes on PBS where they add, "for details see the recipe on our website," and you can't!

But there are usually copies of the recipes elsewhere and I found their sirloin stroganoff recipe here.

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1 minute ago, Dirtyhip said:

Some people use it.  It is a cheaper version.  I wouldn't necessarily say it is wrong.  Is there really a wrong in cooking, if the chef likes it that way?

Cooking can be fluid and subjective.  Some people use beans in chili.

It's more about "naming" than taste, I think.  Like I wrote, if it tastes good, I'll eat it.  I assume Chris will too, but it is weird for someone to call a "cat" a "dog" or whatever.  Maybe he just needs to call it "stroganoff a la WoC"?

I've had goulash in Budapest, and honestly, while delicious, I don't think I recognized the Hungarian word amongst all the other Hungarian words and relied on help navigating the menu.  IOW, while it was "goulash" to me, that wouldn't be the true way they said goulash (which Google says is "gulyás").  

Maybe ask (politely) your wife to make you gulyás! 

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1 hour ago, Dirtyhip said:

goulash, that is something I haven't got a clue about.  I don't like the sound of it though.  ;)

Great mid-winter comfort food.

 

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15 minutes ago, Ralphie said:

I disliked it when I was a kid. One of the few things my mother cooked that I didn’t really like. The hamburger version. 

I have never had it.  I do know that I turned my nose up at meals like this as a kid.  

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