Airehead ★ Posted January 11 Share #1 Posted January 11 Leading into my main school. Same pipe different two places. Big mess. Status of school for tomorrow is unknown. I will get an update at 11pm. Have to go in by 4:30 in case we need to relocate everyone. Water authority is there and about 50 other people. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted January 11 Share #2 Posted January 11 Is my old failing memory correct... you had a sewage issue there too? If that's true.... We all know problems come in groups of 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA CHAVA Kzoo Posted January 11 Share #3 Posted January 11 Paging @KrAzY. Paging KrAzY to the white courtesy phone. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #4 Posted January 12 31 minutes ago, Bikeguy said: Is my old failing memory correct... you had a sewage issue there too? If that's true.... We all know problems come in groups of 3. That was at the new building not this one. Been a crazy year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #5 Posted January 12 They are getting close to finding the break, they think. Water filling hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted January 12 Share #6 Posted January 12 Those guys earn their money this time of year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_photog ★ Posted January 12 Share #7 Posted January 12 Water is less stinky that what I'm dealing with. Line from the house to the septic tank has a problem. It is blocking up. Tried to clean it out but can only get it partially open. Sent a video camera in and looks like it is partially co lapsing. It is the old red clay tile and had probably been there from the time a bathroom was put in the house.. I have it open enough that we can use the bathroom but will probably have to get out the backhoe, dig it up and replace it. Rain is forecast for tomorrow so since it is working but slow I will wait for a day that is nicer. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby ★ Posted January 12 Share #8 Posted January 12 I'm so sorry to hear this. As if your daily job isn't hard enough without this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 12 Share #9 Posted January 12 2 hours ago, Digital_photog said: Water is less stinky that what I'm dealing with. Line from the house to the septic tank has a problem. It is blocking up. Tried to clean it out but can only get it partially open. Sent a video camera in and looks like it is partially co lapsing. It is the old red clay tile and had probably been there from the time a bathroom was put in the house.. I have it open enough that we can use the bathroom but will probably have to get out the backhoe, dig it up and replace it. Rain is forecast for tomorrow so since it is working but slow I will wait for a day that is nicer. Owl bet if you don’t fix it tomorrow you will get all that snow you have been wanting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted January 12 Share #10 Posted January 12 6 hours ago, Airehead said: They are getting close to finding the break, they think. Water filling hole. You may want to innocently inquire if it's possible for the exposed pipe (which isn't now leaking) to freeze and split once they've uncovered it and it's exposed to the air. If the pipe is still pressurized but no water is flowing between the leaks and the school, that section of pipe may freeze. I'd suggest once they're sure as section of pipe isn't leaking, they should backfill over it to keep both the pipe and the ground from freezing. If the ground freezes, once they backfill ground underneath the pipe will warm up again, thaw, and and it could shift. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #11 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: You may want to innocently inquire if it's possible for the exposed pipe (which isn't now leaking) to freeze and split once they've uncovered it and it's exposed to the air. If the pipe is still pressurized but no water is flowing between the leaks and the school, that section of pipe may freeze. I'd suggest once they're sure as section of pipe isn't leaking, they should backfill over it to keep both the pipe and the ground from freezing. If the ground freezes, once they backfill ground underneath the pipe will warm up again, thaw, and and it could shift. In my way to meet with them now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Totin Jack ★ Posted January 12 Share #12 Posted January 12 Good luck with this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #13 Posted January 12 We have water with plenty of sediment at the moment. And air in pipes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #14 Posted January 12 All taps in every room running to flush 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 12 Share #15 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Airehead said: We have water with plenty of sediment at the moment. And air in pipes my sediments exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted January 12 Share #16 Posted January 12 Maybe @BuffJimcan send his doc over to flush those pipes 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted January 12 Solution Share #17 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Airehead said: We have water with plenty of sediment 1 hour ago, Airehead said: All taps in every room running to flush You may have to sanitize your water system before anyone uses the water for drinking or cooking. If there's sediment in the pipes the system isn't or wasn't sealed against the entry of bacteria. I'd suggest talking to your maintenance staff about - once this is all over - about opening up the flush valves on your toilets and urinals to clean out any sediment. Sediment can prevent the valves from operating or closing properly, wasting water, or it can chew up the surfaces meaning you'll have to replace them all the sooner. If your school has a boiler or hot water system, I'd suggest talking with your maintenance staff about keeping the sediment out of that system or making sure any filters or strainers are cleaned and checked frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 12 Share #18 Posted January 12 Where is @KrAzY when you need him???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #19 Posted January 12 7 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: You may have to sanitize your water system before anyone uses the water for drinking or cooking. If there's sediment in the pipes the system isn't or wasn't sealed against the entry of bacteria. I'd suggest talking to your maintenance staff about - once this is all over - about opening up the flush valves on your toilets and urinals to clean out any sediment. Sediment can prevent the valves from operating or closing properly, wasting water, or it can chew up the surfaces meaning you'll have to replace them all the sooner. If your school has a boiler or hot water system, I'd suggest talking with your maintenance staff about keeping the sediment out of that system or making sure any filters or strainers are cleaned and checked frequently. This makes me feel good. Our facilities guy is on all these things. He also just changed the filters on the water bottle fillers that have replaced water fountains. The county water authority inspector is here now too. Also contractors ran out of gravel last night but are back now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #20 Posted January 12 Just now, Razors Edge said: Where is @KrAzY when you need him???? Still waiting on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted January 12 Share #21 Posted January 12 7 minutes ago, Airehead said: Still waiting on him. And when do you get to operate some of that heavy equipment??? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #22 Posted January 12 40 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: And when do you get to operate some of that heavy equipment??? I actually just asked but our facilities guy is old and a bit crusty and has zero sense of humor. He does seem to have knowledge and skill and sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #23 Posted January 12 The estimate the second break by the road as 1930 pipe. In the lot it is 1960 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby ★ Posted January 12 Share #24 Posted January 12 Just now, Airehead said: I actually just asked but our facilities guy is old and a bit crusty and has zero sense of humor. He does seem to have knowledge and skill and sense. If I had to choose, I'd definitely go with the skill and sense, especially when water is gushing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted January 12 Share #25 Posted January 12 I wonder why they dug such a big hole? Couldn’t they find the pipe? I like their excavator. I used a 1950 Ferguson backhoe when I had to dig up water leaks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoseySusan ★ Posted January 12 Share #26 Posted January 12 Glad to hear this is working out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted January 12 Share #27 Posted January 12 4 hours ago, Airehead said: Our facilities guy is on all these things. If your facilities guy took the initiative to start those things - and I suspect others as well - he's definitely a cut above. I've seen many that would sit on their hands because 'nobody told me to do that'. I'd suggest dropping off a dozen donuts or so at the guy's desk when this is all over, for him and the rest of the crew. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead ★ Posted January 12 Author Share #28 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said: If your facilities guy took the initiative to start those things - and I suspect others as well - he's definitely a cut above. I've seen many that would sit on their hands because 'nobody told me to do that'. I'd suggest dropping off a dozen donuts or so at the guy's desk when this is all over, for him and the rest of the crew. I brought everyone insomnia cookies at midnight with a jug of coffee. Insomnia Cookies stays open really late. Until the bars close, I think. College town. breakfast pizza tomorrow might be good. he is a good guy and I really trust him. I also just give him needs and never try to micromanage him. He hates that. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted January 12 Share #29 Posted January 12 20 hours ago, Airehead said: Leading into my main school. Same pipe different two places. Big mess. Status of school for tomorrow is unknown. I will get an update at 11pm. Have to go in by 4:30 in case we need to relocate everyone. Water authority is there and about 50 other people. That's a nice looking hoe you have there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_photog ★ Posted January 12 Share #30 Posted January 12 30 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: That's a nice looking hoe you have there. I could have lots of fun with that but it is too big to get in to make my repair. Maybe dig my pond bigger with it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted January 12 Share #31 Posted January 12 16 minutes ago, Digital_photog said: I could have lots of fun with that but it is too big to get in to make my repair. Maybe dig my pond bigger with it? I have looked at lots of hoes in my day and thought that I could have lots of fun with them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted January 12 Share #32 Posted January 12 19 hours ago, Digital_photog said: Water is less stinky that what I'm dealing with. Line from the house to the septic tank has a problem. It is blocking up. Tried to clean it out but can only get it partially open. Sent a video camera in and looks like it is partially co lapsing. It is the old red clay tile and had probably been there from the time a bathroom was put in the house.. I have it open enough that we can use the bathroom but will probably have to get out the backhoe, dig it up and replace it. Rain is forecast for tomorrow so since it is working but slow I will wait for a day that is nicer. My house had a similar problem in the 90's when it was my mother's house, before she passed away and I bought my siblings shares out. When I was born in 1950, her mother planted an Indian Cigar Tree in the yard - it was some Polish tradition - very close to where the sewage line ran from the house to the street connection. Over the years, the roots collapsed the cast iron pipe. Thanks, Grandma! I had a huge, strong friend named Joe but nicknamed "Lubs" (lbs: "pounds") - who was out of work and hired him for $150/day to dig a trench from the house to the side street, about 20 feet long, in the hard, clay soil. He actually wore down one side of the pickax digging it for 5 days. My brother got a County guy to come out and tell him what PVC pipe, etc. he needed to get and how to connect it to the sewage line under the street. So it cost me $750 plus a new pickax and cost my brother a couple hundred. A fellow teacher with whom I worked paid some company to do the same thing within a couple years at his house and it cost over $5000. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted January 13 Share #33 Posted January 13 On 1/12/2023 at 7:32 AM, Razors Edge said: Where is @KrAzY when you need him???? I been busy. But that's a small main. Just slap a high clamp on it and backfill.. We just got done with a 8 hour main break on a 14" line.. think we lost about 1.5 mil gal of water before we could get it shut off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA CHAVA Kzoo Posted January 14 Share #34 Posted January 14 2 hours ago, KrAzY said: I been busy We don’t need excuses. You should have been here. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted January 14 Share #35 Posted January 14 1 hour ago, Kzoo said: We don’t need excuses. You should have been here. Ok.. I'm sorry... Also just got back from another call.. All this OT is going to kick my butt this week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA CHAVA Kzoo Posted January 14 Share #36 Posted January 14 15 minutes ago, KrAzY said: All this OT is going to kick my income taxes up this week FIFY 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted January 14 Share #37 Posted January 14 12 minutes ago, Kzoo said: FIFY Shhhhhhhhhhhh I'm eating tacos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA CHAVA Kzoo Posted January 14 Share #38 Posted January 14 16 minutes ago, KrAzY said: Shhhhhhhhhhhh I'm eating tacos Yes sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA CHAVA Kzoo Posted January 14 Share #39 Posted January 14 Get some sleep before the phone rings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted January 14 Share #40 Posted January 14 14 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Get some sleep before the phone rings. I'll be passed out in an hour or two.. sleep is no really the problem.. we take naps if we get down times. Also I learnt that if the weather is bad, we get a lot of night calls.. if it is nice, people tent to not call after 9pm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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