Square Wheels Posted April 6, 2015 Share #1 Posted April 6, 2015 So, we've been around for a while and we slowly attract now members, very few of them women. I suspect that is for at least a couple of reasons. 1: it's likely there are fewer women cyclists, and still fewer that post online. I've seen this on other forums, and 2: there are many sexists posts here.I myself am guilty of starting new posts that are considered sexist as well as perpetuating them. It was brought to my attention (thank you) that this is happening. I will not reveal who pointed this out to me, I will say it was one of our male members.So, here's how it's going to go. Since this will be a painful transition for many of you, it will start slowly, by gently reminding people that we are a site for both (all) genders and the post you have made may not be appropriate. Please don't push your luck or you will be warned / banned.For now the posts, including the bikini post, will remain, slowly they will either fade away or they will be closed. We can create another private forum where you can post bikini and similar pics, it would again be a password protected forum so the posts don't come up on an internal search or get "Googled".Please understand this new change and be thoughtful before you post.Thank you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted April 6, 2015 Share #2 Posted April 6, 2015 Did you discuss this with RG beforehand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted April 6, 2015 Did you discuss this with RG beforehand? Last time I checked, I was the one paying the bills. He will happily conform, he is a conformist afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted April 6, 2015 Share #4 Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) Last time I checked, I was the one paying the bills. He will happily conform, he is a conformist afterall. Edited April 6, 2015 by AirwickWithCheese we are nothing without RG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted April 6, 2015 Share #5 Posted April 6, 2015 We can create another private forum where you can post bikini and similar pics, it would again be a password protected forum so the posts don't come up on an internal search or get "Googled". I would suggest we call that Forum "Men Are Such Pigs". Oh, wait. I sincerely apologize to Wilbur. In the interest of making this Forum less sexist, I regret my ugly animalist side surfaced. I have shamed myself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2015 Share #6 Posted April 6, 2015 It was Kzoo wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted April 6, 2015 Author Share #7 Posted April 6, 2015 It was Kzoo wasn't it? I will not reveal who it was (or wasn't), ever. I also suggest they keep it between me and them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyBob Posted April 6, 2015 Share #8 Posted April 6, 2015 I would suggest we call that Forum "Men Are Such Pigs". Oh, wait. I sincerely apologize to Wilbur. In the interest of making this Forum less sexist, I regret my ugly animalist side surfaced. I have shamed myself. Are you using ugly in a negative context? I could totally take offense to that you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 6, 2015 Share #9 Posted April 6, 2015 I will not reveal who it was (or wasn't), ever. I also suggest they keep it between me and them.We will blame Kzoo and tell him you told us it was him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted April 6, 2015 Share #10 Posted April 6, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AirwickWithCheese Posted April 7, 2015 Share #12 Posted April 7, 2015 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted April 7, 2015 You point has been stated and received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #14 Posted April 7, 2015 I don't think centralia is in play here. I'm pretty sure I can survive without the sausagefest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted April 7, 2015 Share #15 Posted April 7, 2015 I'm just having fun with you. I understand both sides. I do think you and RG could figure out a compromise that works best for all. I'm an optimist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted April 7, 2015 Share #16 Posted April 7, 2015 centralia But were you able to get the automobile without looking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #17 Posted April 7, 2015 But were you able to get the automobile without looking? No. I was kind of busy in 75 and didn't remember him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #18 Posted April 7, 2015 I'm good with the proposed changes. Might be due to my using Women's Rogaine the last couple of weeks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #19 Posted April 7, 2015 Can the new forum still be moderated so it isn't a nasty place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SuzieQ Posted April 7, 2015 Popular Post Share #20 Posted April 7, 2015 Even though I took all the sexist posts "with a grain of salt", I thank you for this. I think if I was a new member checking out this site, I would definitely be put off - knowing you all I forgive and put it down to ignorant men 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted April 7, 2015 Share #21 Posted April 7, 2015 Most of us know where to go if we want to find nekkid pictures on the interwebs. I support the changes 100%. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahsposo Posted April 7, 2015 Share #22 Posted April 7, 2015 Dang. I guess ALL THE WOMEN that populate teh Bike Foroms will remain there because it's so "family friendly". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted April 7, 2015 Share #23 Posted April 7, 2015 Are you using ugly in a negative context? I could totally take offense to that you know...It was rude and unthinking of me. I apologize for my shortcomings, for which I am solely responsible.Not only have I unwittingly offended Ugly Bob, but also all ugly Bobs, all animals, all ugly animals, and <hangs head in remorse> all ugly animals named Bob.I have no way to express the depth of my regret; I fear no penance can redeem me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 7, 2015 Share #24 Posted April 7, 2015 I have been cycling for well over 20 years. Shoot, it's going on 30, but I don't want to date myself too much. Women are outnumbered by men dramatically in this sport. That being said, I have had to get used to my share of being made fun of by the guys and have had to learn to hold my own with that. Some of the guys I have hung out with can be crude and I have heard it all. In a way I am guilty of the sexist talk as well. Example: calling people pussies when they are weak. Now, I have a pussy, but I am a very strong girl. Hell, I can probably whip some of you on the bike, even with this head cold, but I I digress. My point is that it isn't that big of a deal. With the exception of a few posts, I don't think I have been offended by posts about women on this site, or the other place that also has it's share of sexist threads objectifying women. I was talking to a good friend tonight on the phone and the topic of objectifying women came up. I can't remember the exact dialogue but I said that women's bodies are more of a work of art and that is why there are more pieces of artwork of women's bodies. My friend said it was cause men were doing the art. However, I think Elaine said it best in regards to the human body. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #25 Posted April 7, 2015 Meh, I'm ok with it. I know I"m not interested in the bikini thread. I know to stay away from most Nate threads. I am pretty comfortable with the guys here. I don't like when they push DH and her enthusiasm a little to hard (for MY comfort level); but then I know she can out ride/shralp them any day, and I know they know she is a supremely better athlete than most of us here. So ya, I'm ok wit youse guys. P.S. Having said that, thanks SW (and mystery person) for remembering there ARE ladies here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahsposo Posted April 7, 2015 Share #26 Posted April 7, 2015 I guess I would complain about serial OPs. "Oh, I just ******! I'll make a new thread on SWC to see how that gets received" Five minutes later: "Oh! I just had a random thought that was maybe just a brain fart BUT WHO CARES? I'll make a new thread on SWC. They are OP friendly!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #27 Posted April 7, 2015 Well if you have seen the 2005 movie "North Country" or read the 2002 book "Class Action".....I worked in that environment ...well a similar one during the summers 1977-1982...It was quite sexist..not as bad as the movie experience because it was a new plant that opened in 1976...and my mom worked at the plant...we were the "kids" of some of the workers... As far as this place goes...I avoid some posts or posters..because of experience. I hope sexism wouldn't chase someone away...but on the other hand one should not have to endure it...just so they can enjoy other aspects of this place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted April 7, 2015 Share #28 Posted April 7, 2015 We will blame Kzoo and tell him you told us it was him.I used to like you. Now???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 7, 2015 Share #29 Posted April 7, 2015 Meh, I'm ok with it. I know I"m not interested in the bikini thread. I know to stay away from most Nate threads. I am pretty comfortable with the guys here. I don't like when they push DH and her enthusiasm a little to hard (for MY comfort level); but then I know she can out ride/shralp them any day, and I know they know she is a supremely better athlete than most of us here. So ya, I'm ok wit youse guys. P.S. Having said that, thanks SW (and mystery person) for remembering there ARE ladies here. Thanks, Sistah! That was super sweet to say. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted April 7, 2015 Share #30 Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) I blame Nate for this. Those churchy types always ruin it for the rest of us. Edited April 7, 2015 by Bosoxyacht 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted April 7, 2015 Share #31 Posted April 7, 2015 I blame Nate for this. Those churchy types always ruin it for the rest of us. Actually, it's more likely one of the FNGs that got their panties all bunched up. Probabaly that sheep loving Scot that gives advice that no one asked for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share #32 Posted April 7, 2015 All members are treated the same. Please don't post negative feedback about Nate, even if in jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted April 7, 2015 Share #33 Posted April 7, 2015 All members are treated the same. Please don't post negative feedback about Nate, even if in jest. You really can't ever tell when someone is joking around. Living in the Boston area, I wonder how you make it through the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #34 Posted April 7, 2015 You really can't ever tell when someone is joking around. Living in the Boston area, I wonder how you make it through the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted April 7, 2015 Share #35 Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) I've been fired by far better men than you. Edited April 7, 2015 by Bosoxyacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted April 7, 2015 Share #36 Posted April 7, 2015 Wilbur, does this mean I can have your vintage Farrah poster you keep hidden from WOWilbur in your basement? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #37 Posted April 7, 2015 Wilbur, does this mean I can have your vintage Farrah poster you keep hidden from WOWilbur in your basement? I never had that one. I was more a Susan Dey fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted April 7, 2015 Share #38 Posted April 7, 2015 I never had that one. I was more a Susan Dey fan. preach it Wilbur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted April 7, 2015 Share #39 Posted April 7, 2015 Actually, it's more likely one of the FNGs that got their panties all bunched up. Probabaly that sheep loving Scot that gives advice that no one asked for. ...I was wondering how long it would take to blame the FNG's. Well done, FOGEY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted April 7, 2015 Share #40 Posted April 7, 2015 So, we've been around for a while and we slowly attract now members, very few of them women. I suspect that is for at least a couple of reasons. 1: it's likely there are fewer women cyclists, and still fewer that post online. I've seen this on other forums, and 2: there are many sexists posts here.I myself am guilty of starting new posts that are considered sexist as well as perpetuating them. It was brought to my attention (thank you) that this is happening. I will not reveal who pointed this out to me, I will say it was one of our male members.So, here's how it's going to go. Since this will be a painful transition for many of you, it will start slowly, by gently reminding people that we are a site for both (all) genders and the post you have made may not be appropriate. Please don't push your luck or you will be warned / banned.For now the posts, including the bikini post, will remain, slowly they will either fade away or they will be closed. We can create another private forum where you can post bikini and similar pics, it would again be a password protected forum so the posts don't come up on an internal search or get "Googled".Please understand this new change and be thoughtful before you post.Thank youYou are probably right with your first reason why there are so few women on this forum. Close to 85% of adult cyclists are men, so I wouldn't expect the forum membership to be any better than that. Good luck with your mission to get more women to become members. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbike1939 Posted April 7, 2015 Share #41 Posted April 7, 2015 Actually, it's more likely one of the FNGs that got their panties all bunched up. Probabaly that sheep loving Scot that gives advice that no one asked for. Not guilty I'm afraid but thanks for thinking of me. That said, as a totally reconstituted man I applaud the decision and stand side by side with my sisters in this forum. That you should denigrate me for my sexuality is absolutely disgraceful and you should be ashamed..........do I complain about you predilection for Ducks? ........no Sir I do not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted April 7, 2015 Share #42 Posted April 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #43 Posted April 7, 2015 I for one will be totally good with no longer being a sex object. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share #44 Posted April 7, 2015 Good luck with your mission to get more women to become members. It's not so much the idea of attracting more women to join, but to not offend the ones that are here, and not turn off new ones from joining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris... Posted April 7, 2015 Share #45 Posted April 7, 2015 I was going to post more of my speedo pics. You'll have to get your eye candy elsewhere now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share #46 Posted April 7, 2015 I was going to post more of my speedo pics. You'll have to get your eye candy elsewhere now.Timing is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted April 7, 2015 Share #47 Posted April 7, 2015 I try hard not to be sexest, but if I do get out of line I expect one of the wimmin here to give me a spanking and tell me how bad I was In all honestly.. I will try to behave myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share #48 Posted April 7, 2015 I am happy at how well this was received, thank you all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 7, 2015 Share #49 Posted April 7, 2015 We now return you to our regularly scheduled................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former member Posted April 7, 2015 Share #50 Posted April 7, 2015 It's not so much the idea of attracting more women to join, but to not offend the ones that are here, and not turn off new ones from joining.This place seems cleaner already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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