Wilbur ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Share #1 Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) Who was/is it? I still think Buddy Rich as his work appears in the styles of most prominent drummers today. Edited June 16, 2015 by Wilbur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted June 16, 2015 Share #2 Posted June 16, 2015 NP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share #3 Posted June 16, 2015 I call him close. His style is still very much what BR created and NP is a Big Band Jazz player and lover. NP is certainly his own man as a rock drummer but you still feel the BR influence, especially in Rhythm Method. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Share #4 Posted June 16, 2015 Back in the day I would have said Joe Morello but having learned a bit more about the opinions of other drummers perhaps a wild vote here for Ringo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Share #5 Posted June 16, 2015 But if it were just my favorite instead of the best then I'd go with Rick Allen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted June 16, 2015 Back in the day I would have said Joe Morello but having learned a bit more about the opinions of other drummers perhaps a wild vote here for Ringo. I don't know if he was even the best of the Beatles. I always heard it said tongue in cheek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted June 16, 2015 Share #7 Posted June 16, 2015 I don't know if he was even the best of the Beatles. I always heard it said tongue in cheek. Ringo wasn't flashy (like his hands) but his timing was spot-on. If you like drumming in-your-face like John Bonham you won't like Ringo, but what he did, he did very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted June 16, 2015 Share #8 Posted June 16, 2015 NP Wow, I never woulda guessed in a million years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share #9 Posted June 16, 2015 Ringo wasn't flashy (like his hands) but his timing was spot-on. If you like drumming in-your-face like John Bonham you won't like Ringo, but what he did, he did very well.True enuf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 16, 2015 Share #10 Posted June 16, 2015 NP. Stewart Copeland and John Bonham. In that order. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 16, 2015 Share #11 Posted June 16, 2015 I like BR, really do. Of his time there is no question of who was the best. A true innovator. I do think that at least the first two that I mentioned were better. (NP and SC) They, to me, are two of the best technical drummers I have ever heard play. JB is just sheer power. I just love his sound and style. On a side note, once I met Kenny Arnoff in a drum shop and got to play a bit with him. He's no slouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_in Ray Of Sunshine Posted June 16, 2015 Share #12 Posted June 16, 2015 I'll second Buddy Rich, but of those currently playing, I gotta say: Gavin Freakin' Harrison. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted June 16, 2015 Share #13 Posted June 16, 2015 But if it were just my favorite instead of the best then I'd go with Rick Allen. He's better with one arm than he was with two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Share #14 Posted June 16, 2015 He's better with one arm than he was with two.Necessity is the mother of invention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share #15 Posted June 16, 2015 For SW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted June 16, 2015 Share #16 Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) For me a truly talented musician not only excels with his own instrument, but has to play seamlessly with the rest of the band - listening to what they do, complementing them. This becomes even more pronounced with a drummer, who can pull a band together, drive it, calm it - or who can start wars between the members so it sounds like everybody is playing their own concert not caring what anyone else is doing.I saw Buddy Rich play in concert, and any words I might use would fall far short of describing his abilities. Even my imagination couldn't comprehend how he even thought up what he wanted to play much less how he managed to execute it. I think of him with foundations in the Big Band and Jazz eras, though there's nothing he couldn't play.Of the 'modern' or post-Big Band era drummers I would like others would pick Neil Peart. I've listened to those songs untold times and still can't follow what he does. Maybe there are other drummers with other bands who could have played those songs just as well as he did - but they didn't. Most of the other bands wrote and played songs that were fairly easy to follow because, quite obviously, that makes them popular and that translates to money. The songs Rush recorded weren't always that easy to follow, but they were popular because the musicians played so well people wanted to hear their music.Who of the two is better? That's like saying "Which is better, the sky or the ocean?" Edited June 16, 2015 by Thaddeus Kosciuszko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtermite Posted June 16, 2015 Share #17 Posted June 16, 2015 Neil Peart is awesome, no doubt, but I'd still give top props to Buddy Rich! Another vote for Buddy. I never thought I'd agree with Wilbur...but there you have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share #18 Posted June 16, 2015 Neil Peart is awesome, no doubt, but I'd still give top props to Buddy Rich! Another vote for Buddy. I never thought I'd agree with Wilbur...but there you have it. I know. I thought all of your opinions were rubbish but there is hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted June 16, 2015 Share #19 Posted June 16, 2015 "Which is better, the sky or the ocean?"Clearly this is a discussion that can't be "won". We'll all have our opinions, tastes and preferences. For many years I felt it was Bonham, and while I still regard him as one of the greats, it's the combination of talents that Peart has that puts him at the top for me. He writes most of their songs, plays with talents that can't be described and has no real time signature throughout a song.I looked up a Rush song with beginner guitar lessons and they guy was pretty funny. He said to just listen to the record and play along with his instructions. The timing changed so many times during the song it would be effectively impossible to describe.The way Rush plays as one fluid sound astounds me. They are truly magical. All that being said, I don't think they are my favorite band, I don't generally pick favorites, but I'd still have to give that to Led Zeppelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingtermite Posted June 16, 2015 Share #20 Posted June 16, 2015 I know. I thought all of your opinions were rubbish but there is hope.Don't get your hopes too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris... Posted June 16, 2015 Share #21 Posted June 16, 2015 I've always liked Cozy Powell and Carl Palmer. Also Shane Gaalaas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share #22 Posted June 16, 2015 Cozy Powell was excellent. Old school fundamentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UglyBob Posted June 16, 2015 Share #23 Posted June 16, 2015 I've always liked Cozy Powell and Carl Palmer. Also Shane GaalaasAnother vote for Carl Palmer, but no can touch Buddy Rich. He's the foundation of modern drumming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted June 16, 2015 Share #24 Posted June 16, 2015 Clearly this is a discussion that can't be "won"... All that being said, I don't think they are my favorite band, I don't generally pick favorites, but I'd still have to give that to Led Zeppelin. So says the Philistine who puts raisins in brownies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted June 16, 2015 Share #25 Posted June 16, 2015 So says the Philistine who puts raisins in brownies. I'll mail you a batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 16, 2015 Share #26 Posted June 16, 2015 I'll mail you a batch. Don't forget the special hazmat stamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted June 16, 2015 Share #27 Posted June 16, 2015 I'll mail you a batch. Cool!I'll mail them to FRoS, he'll mail them to Zack, Zack will mail the to Airehead, she will mail them to SuzieQ, who will mail them to DH, who will mail them to jsharr.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 17, 2015 Share #28 Posted June 17, 2015 That's it. I'm telling the CDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share #29 Posted June 17, 2015 You people have destroyed a good thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 17, 2015 Share #30 Posted June 17, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Kosciuszko Posted June 17, 2015 Share #31 Posted June 17, 2015 You people have destroyed a good thread. Wilbur, I owe you a sincere apology! My regrets for derailing your thread. Please allow me to atone for my misdeeds: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted June 17, 2015 Share #32 Posted June 17, 2015 You people have destroyed a good thread. There's nothing to ruin, NP is the best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share #33 Posted June 17, 2015 Wilbur, I owe you a sincere apology! My regrets for derailing your thread. Please allow me to atone for my misdeeds: That is so stupid it is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokey Posted June 17, 2015 Share #34 Posted June 17, 2015 Not one mention of GInger Baker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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