Page Turner Posted September 14, 2015 Share #1 Posted September 14, 2015 ...the most recent addition to the losses is Middletown, Ca. Middletown is the closest town to one of the more well known nude hippie hot springs, Harbin Hot Springs. I don't know about the springs resort buildings, but a lot of Middletown is gone now. #this_is_a_bad_one http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-middletown-profile-20150913-story.html ...this is not some houses out in the woods, but a town with sidewalks, and apartments, and home to 1100 souls. Too many fires, not enough resources, moving like nobody living has ever seen here before. The Butte fire up in Amador/Calaveras evacuated the town and house I used to live in up there about ten years ago, Pine Grove. It's a pretty place, but hasn't burned in a long time, and the canyon of the Mokelumne there is some of the steepest terrain I've ever hiked. Right now everyone's hoping for an El Nino miracle, but I don't think we'll be so happy when some of the burned areas start sliding downhill. #staycalm #prayforrain #butnottoomuch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted September 14, 2015 Share #2 Posted September 14, 2015 What do you mean don't panic? Panic is always appropriate. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petitepedal ★ Posted September 14, 2015 Share #3 Posted September 14, 2015 Hope things change soon..all those fires are scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 14, 2015 Share #4 Posted September 14, 2015 I posted this in the other thread Paige. Our fires are still burning and aren't expected to go out til October. Welcome to west coast hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuzieQ Posted September 14, 2015 Share #5 Posted September 14, 2015 . that's crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share #6 Posted September 14, 2015 What do you mean don't panic? Panic is always appropriate. ...manly men prefer scared shitless to panic, my good woman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted September 14, 2015 Share #7 Posted September 14, 2015 Remember the old adage quoted in The Caine Mutiny, "when in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share #8 Posted September 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 14, 2015 Share #9 Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Pretty wild. I'm just wondering why the mofo's waited so long to get out. Edited September 14, 2015 by dotman17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share #10 Posted September 14, 2015 Pretty wild. I'm just wondering why the mofo's waited so long to get out. ...the Valley fire went from start to 40,000 acres in just about 17 hours, and much of that was during the night. If I had to guess, it was pretty chaotic, and most of the available resources were already tied up either down near Fresno (still poorly contained in a relatively populated area), and our more recent Butte fire, up near Jackson and Mokelumne Hill on down toward Mountain Ranch and San Andreas. Again guessing, but if you lose a town of 1,100 (Middletown) it means you either had zero resources for structure protection (unlikely) or the fire was moving so fast and in so many directions that you just had no idea which way to go (more likely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 14, 2015 Share #11 Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah, from the sounds of it, it was moving extremely fast. For real, the whole west is on fire. There are countless in WA, OR, CA, ID, and MT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Page Turner Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share #13 Posted September 14, 2015 Yeah, from the sounds of it, it was moving extremely fast. For real, the whole west is on fire. In candid online forum, firefighters chronicle Valley fire's wrathJust before dawn, Bluezebra noted that resources were spread too thin and that many departments in fire-weary California were simply unable to pitch in. "If resources have not been dispatched from your agency, it is probably because your Chief or OP Area Coordinator has stated your area is at drawdown." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 14, 2015 Share #14 Posted September 14, 2015 It's been happening here since mid-August. I feel your pain. This shit is getting scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted September 14, 2015 Share #15 Posted September 14, 2015 Those videos are definitely disturbing. Hoping for some decent rain - all you West Coasters stay safe out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 14, 2015 Share #16 Posted September 14, 2015 Remember boys and girls -- there is no climate change. All these scientists are on the payroll of green companies. Nothing to fear here. Nothing to fear. http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-snowpack-20150911-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FX_James_7.9 Posted September 14, 2015 Share #17 Posted September 14, 2015 rainiest summer ever in Indiana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share #18 Posted September 14, 2015 Photos Show Valley Fire Damage To Clothing-Optional Resort Harbin Hot Springs ...sadly, naked hippie hot springs is leveled. Here are some before photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 15, 2015 Share #19 Posted September 15, 2015 Photos Show Valley Fire Damage To Clothing-Optional Resort Harbin Hot Springs ...sadly, naked hippie hot springs is leveled. Here are some before photos. Didn't you go there once?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted September 15, 2015 Share #20 Posted September 15, 2015 Didn't you go there once??Yeah, it was a short trip, things didn't last long, maybe it was too cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 15, 2015 Share #21 Posted September 15, 2015 Didn't you go there once??Yeah, it was a short trip, things didn't last long, maybe it was too cold.I actually think Paige went there once. For realz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share #22 Posted September 15, 2015 I actually think Paige went there once. For realz. ...I used to attend the festivities there about three times annually, back when I was a handsome fireman. You could sleep out on the deck, wake up in the morning, do some yoga, and spend the rest of the day soaking hot or cold and watching the parade of hooters. Haven't been up there in the last ten-fifteen years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 15, 2015 Share #23 Posted September 15, 2015 That's what I'm talking about. That's the kind of talk that would send Cheeseball's over the edge and fill him with envy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 16, 2015 Share #24 Posted September 16, 2015 Slackers. https://www.facebook.com/MichelleKIRO7/photos/a.267279316617366.77409.266121413399823/1057934584218498/?type=1&fref=nf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share #25 Posted September 16, 2015 ...there are some years I'm happier that I'm retired (although it's a pretty good deal all the time.) This is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 16, 2015 Share #26 Posted September 16, 2015 All those guys/gals are champs. It's been a really long 'hoe'. I mean haul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share #27 Posted September 23, 2015 Valley fire's unfolding nightmare revealed in emergency logs The morning after, the fire still spreading, the logs chronicle an attempt to track down a camper who earlier had refused to leave the Boggs State Forest even as it burned. His Honda remained at the camp site "and the tent is melted" but the man could not be found, the dispatch log noted. Such refusals to leave were common. The logs show more than two dozen cases where individuals or even groups of people defied orders to leave. In at least two cases, the individuals threatened officers or firefighters. As the first 24 hours of the deadly fire drew to a close, the first suspected looters arrived – two men trekking in on foot, wearing backpacks. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted September 23, 2015 Share #28 Posted September 23, 2015 There are some really, really dumb people out there. If you don't evacuate an area when a wild fire comes to town, you're dumb. But you are even dumber and get what you deserve if you're out there camping and refuse to leave for gawd's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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