Politics and Religion

[Page Turner]

40 minutes ago, onbike1939 said:

Nearly eighty years of waiting and I've been offered a chance of greatness...I'm going to be catapulted to fame just as soon as I've sorted this mess and banned Dotman...which seems reasonable really. I thought it would never happen.

“If this fall into thy hand, revolve. In my stars I am above thee, but be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon 'em. Thy Fates open their hands. Let thy blood and spirit embrace them. And, to inure thyself to what thou art like to be, cast thy humble slough and appear fresh. Be opposite with a kinsman, surly with servants.

...Malvolio in Twelfth Night (reading Maria's  letter)

40 minutes ago, Amadeus said:

For now it's hidden, if a workable plan can be agreed on, it may be revived, but I am highly skeptical.

 

[AirwickWithCheese]

This thread should be exhibit A for the genius of our Leader Wheels. 

He makes a very poor decision which pits the members against each other. Instead of fighting, we end up praising each other and for some unexplainable reason promoting and exalting onbike and dotman. 

Try that with your former 2bit forums.   

[Page Turner]

1 minute ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

This thread should be exhibit A for the genius of our Leader Wheels. 

He makes a very poor decision ...

...I saw what you did there.

[Square Wheels]

23 minutes ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

I will rise up against you and cast you from the forum.

You will bow to my greatness.

From now on, you are not allowed to address me unless you are simultaneously presenting candy corn peeps.  Now go rake the rest of my leaves.

[Wilbur ★]

8 minutes ago, dotman17 said:

I don't do this w/o you, bloke.

An American using "bloke" is like an American using "eh".  It don't sound right.   

[Square Wheels]

25 minutes ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

I will rise up against you and cast you from the forum.

Ay, that sounds about right, no?

[onbike1939]

5 minutes ago, Page Turner said:

“If this fall into thy hand, revolve. In my stars I am above thee, but be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon 'em. Thy Fates open their hands. Let thy blood and spirit embrace them. And, to inure thyself to what thou art like to be, cast thy humble slough and appear fresh. Be opposite with a kinsman, surly with servants.

...Malvolio in Twelfth Night (reading Maria's  letter)

" "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt". - (Act I, Scene IV). Measure for measure.

[AirwickWithCheese]

3 minutes ago, Page Turner said:

...I saw what you did there.

This is why I am forced to love you even though I hate you.

[Dottleshead ★]

I am trying to save the P&R only because I find it generally more interesting than the drivel posted here... although this thread is an equal. Indeed this thread demonstrates how awesome it could be.

[AirwickWithCheese]

Be honest, the insertion of a vibrant, beautiful young Karen Carpenter with a life full of hope and promise is what saved this thread from chaos. 

 

[Dottleshead ★]

Ok I officially don't care.

[AirwickWithCheese]

7 minutes ago, dotman17 said:

I am trying to save the P&R only because I find it generally more interesting than the drivel posted here... although this thread is an equal. Indeed this thread demonstrates how awesome it could be.

As I am trying to save P & R so as to keep your ass there and out of the Cafe.  

We are in this together.   

[Digital_photog ★]

4 minutes ago, dotman17 said:

Ok I officially don't care.

The line is " Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn "

 

( I always wanted to use that one in a forum.)

[maddmaxx ★]

This is some of the cheesiest sentiment I've heard in a long time.

[Page Turner]

1 hour ago, onbike1939 said:

" "Our doubts are traitors, and make us lose the good we oft might win, by fearing to attempt". - (Act I, Scene IV). Measure for measure.

..." Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; Or close the wall up with our English dead. " Henry V (Act III, Scene I)

[Page Turner]

1 hour ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

This is why I am forced to love you even though I hate you.

...a very concise description of every longer relationship I've ever experienced.  To know me is to hate me.

[Page Turner]

...this thread ought to be renamed "The November Surprise".

[AirwickWithCheese]

6 minutes ago, Page Turner said:

...this thread ought to be renamed "The November Surprise".

You really, really just can't help yourself can you?   

[Page Turner]

...it's a curse. It always gets me in trouble during the Holidays.

[Wilbur ★]

So, if the SW decides to give P&R back because,  we maybe go rake his leaves and whitewash his fence, who is going to tell RJM to come back? 

[Wilbur ★]

I have never seen a thread here hit 7 pages in one day.  Was this a SW ploy or does Page just like getting hit?

[AirwickWithCheese]

3 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

So, if the SW decides to give P&R back because,  we maybe go rake his leaves and whitewash his fence, who is going to tell RJM to come back? 

[AirwickWithCheese]

3 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

I have never seen a thread here hit 7 pages in one day.  Was this a SW ploy or does Page just like getting hit?

You are wrong. The French and Indian War thread was huge, huge I tell you. 

[Caretaker]

OK, so you're going to hide P&R or whatever but what happens with the Cafe?

Case in point, today we had a thread about the USS Ronald Reagan sea trials which I assiduously ignored till someone posted how wonderful a Prez RR was and how he restored America's 'esteem' internationally and my resolve to not comment broke.

As I posted before, everything is political. Infatuation with the military is political, naming aircraft carriers after Presidents is political, who gets shot is political, what prime time news covers is political, the idea that politics is anti-social is political......

OK, now bring on the clowns.

[Dottleshead ★]

4 minutes ago, Caretaker said:

OK, now bring on the clowns.

You rang?? 

 

Seriously, though, I couldn't agree with you more.  I think what's important here, to give you some background in case you were unaware, is this forum sprouted out of a Love forum.  That pretty much tells the story.

[AirwickWithCheese]

Again this is why it simply will not work for you guys. Everything is not political and moreover no one wants to constantly hear your political opinions. 

If you can't make your very own P & R forum work here, leave. 

 

[Wilbur ★]

10 minutes ago, Caretaker said:

OK, now bring on the clowns.

They are all at Bike Forums. 

[AirwickWithCheese]

Just now, Wilbur said:

They are all at Bike Forums. 

Apparently not all.  

[Dirtyhip]

What kind of bikes people like is political too.

[Caretaker]

3 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said:

What kind of bikes people like is political too.

Yes, it can be.

And not to forget religion, true religion is about morality and ethics.

[Wilbur ★]

8 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said:

What kind of bikes people like is political too.

It is?  I thought that was just opinion.  I know people get a little fanatical but even then, I don't call it political. 

[Dirtyhip]

1 minute ago, Caretaker said:

Yes, it can be.

And not to forget religion, true religion is about morality and ethics.

or Campy vs. SRAM.

1 minute ago, Wilbur said:

It is?  I thought that was just opinion.  I know people get a little fanatical but even then, I don't call it political. 

It was a joke.  ...but you better say you like Specialized around me. 

[Wilbur ★]

2 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said:

or Campy vs. SRAM.

It was a joke.  ...but you better say you like Specialized around me. 

I have been riding Specialized so long I cant remember not having one!  I am religious about it.  Maybe even political!   

[Dirtyhip]

1 minute ago, Wilbur said:

I have been riding Specialized so long I cant remember not having one!  I am religious about it.  Maybe even political!   

Oh, very funny.  I caught that.  Getting all Websters on me, are ya?

[Ralphie ★]

6 hours ago, Road Runner said:

I don't see why this forum needs to support this in any way.  Besides, as RJM stated, lots of places on Facebook for that kind of discourse.

I have heard quite a few complaints aboot the political crap that people post on Facebook, so a lack of it here sounds good to me.

[maddmaxx ★]

2 hours ago, Wilbur said:

So, if the SW decides to give P&R back because,  we maybe go rake his leaves and whitewash his fence, who is going to tell RJM to come back? 

[petitepedal ★]

I have not read all 8 pages...but I  choose to stay out of political or religious conversations...for the most part..there might be an occasional comment...but not too often.  We have turned into a society of angry people and people who believe their way..religion or politics is the only way...Sorry folks but that ain't it...  I would hate to see all that hate and anger show up here... 

[FX_James_7.9]

1 hour ago, Ralph T. Mooseknuckle said:

I have heard quite a few complaints aboot the political crap that people post on Facebook, so a lack of it here sounds good to me.

it wasn't "here" 

 

it was in a section you had to actively seek out.

 

 

[Ralphie ★]

16 minutes ago, FX_James_7.9 said:

it wasn't "here" 

 

it was in a section you had to actively seek out.

 

 

Twue.  I just meant the prohibition in the regular forum works well. 

[Digital_photog ★]

2 hours ago, Dirtyhip said:

 

 ...but you better say you like Specialized around me. 

You know Salsa is better.  Admit it... Why else would 3 of my 5 bikes be Salsa and only one Specialized.  The other is the lonely Comotion.

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or Campy vs. SRAM.

SRAM but only on mountain bikes.  Shimano on road bikes or CX

[Dirtyhip]

8 minutes ago, Digital_photog said:

You know Salsa is better.  Admit it... Why else would 3 of my 5 bikes be Salsa and only one Specialized.  The other is the lonely Comotion.

SRAM but only on mountain bikes.  Shimano on road bikes or CX

I agree with your second statement.   Always Shimano for CX.  I love my Ultegra stuff.

Salsa does make some nice bikes too.  I am not a fan of the Redpoint for a trail bike.  The frame is interesting, because it looks like they copied Specialized.  Look at it.  It looks like a cross between a camber and a stumpy.  Well, minus the ugly cables running down the frame.  Kinda looks a bit like a Santa Cruz too.  The frame is beefy like SC does.  The routing even looks similar.

The bike companies copy each other.  The FSR design is a fantastic design and it just gets better and better.  They are the leaders in that arena, IMHO.

Yes, I am on the koolaide and I love it.

[Page Turner]

2 hours ago, Caretaker said:

Yes, it can be.

And not to forget religion, true religion is about morality and ethics.

...and carbon fiber reinforced plastic, the most sacred of the frame materials.

[Page Turner]

2 hours ago, Dirtyhip said:

It was a joke.  ...but you better say you like Specialized around me. 

...it is obvious to one who follows the industry that Mike Sinyard has made the Faustian bargain.

[Page Turner]

3 hours ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

Apparently not all.  

 

[Dottleshead ★]

2 hours ago, Digital_photog said:

You know Salsa is better.  Admit it... Why else would 3 of my 5 bikes be Salsa and only one Specialized.  The other is the lonely Comotion.

SRAM but only on mountain bikes.  Shimano on road bikes or CX

I almost bought a Salsa.  I decided against it after I couldn't get the size I wanted and the gear set when the newer bikes came out.  Sounds like you like them.  I'd like to try them.

[onbike1939]

10 hours ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

Again this is why it simply will not work for you guys. Everything is not political and moreover no one wants to constantly hear your political opinions. 

If you can't make your very own P & R forum work here, leave. 

 

But....but......I thought it was working and it was introducing politics into the Cafe that was the problem.

I'm growing tired of the division you seem to want to create when you use expressions like "you guys". Not only is it contrary to the ethos of the forum but I find it offensive. Most of us participating in P&R also contribute in the Cafe as well.

[Caretaker]

I'm baffled and bewildered, can't help concluding P&R was tolerated while it got an average of two posts every 24 hours but once it became active it was for the chop.

[Dottleshead ★]

5 hours ago, Caretaker said:

I'm baffled and bewildered, can't help concluding P&R was tolerated while it got an average of two posts every 24 hours but once it became active it was for the chop.

The cool thing is being told after the fact -- that if you don't like it -- you can leave.  Warming to the heart.

[Square Wheels]

5 hours ago, Caretaker said:

I'm baffled and bewildered, can't help concluding P&R was tolerated while it got an average of two posts every 24 hours but once it became active it was for the chop.

 

Just now, dotman17 said:

The cool thing is being told after the fact -- that if you don't like it -- you can leave.  Warming to the heart.

It was not a good fit for this site any longer and it was running over into the other sections.

I'd prefer no one leave, but we no longer offer an avenue to discuss politics or religion.  It rarely ends and even more rarely, ends well.

[Wilbur ★]

2 minutes ago, dotman17 said:

The cool thing is being told after the fact if you don't like it -- you can leave.  Warming to the heart.

It may not be heart warming, but it is the reality of the internet.