The rural purge

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Rural purge

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The "rural purge" of American television networks (in particular CBS) was a series of cancellations in the early 1970s of still-popular rural-themed shows with demographically skewed audiences, the majority of which occurred at the end of the 1970–71 television season. In addition to rural themed shows the purge also eliminated several high rating variety shows that had been on CBS since their beginning of television broadcasting. One of the earliest efforts at channel drift, CBS in particular saw a dramatic change in direction with the shift, moving away from shows with rural themes and toward ones with supposedly more appeal to urban and suburban audiences.

Background[edit]

Starting with The Real McCoys, a 1957 ABC program, U.S. television had undergone a "rural revolution", a shift towards situation comedies featuring "naïve but noble 'rubes' from deep in the American heartland".^[1] CBS was the network most associated with the trend, with series such as The Andy Griffith Show, The Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, Mister Ed, Lassie, Petticoat Junction, and Hee Haw.^[1] CBS aired so many of these rural-themed shows, many of which were produced by Filmways, that it gained the nickname the "Country Broadcasting System".^[2] Another nickname was the "Hillbilly Network", a play on the network's original self-proclaimed nickname of "The Tiffany Network".^{[citation needed]}

By 1966, industry executives were lamenting the lack of diversity in American television offerings and the dominance of rural-oriented programming on all of the Big Three television networks of the era, noting that "ratings indicate that the American public prefer hillbillies, cowboys, and spies" (spy shows being a lingering after-effect of the British Invasion).^[3]

CBS vice president Michael Dann personally disliked the dominance of rural-oriented programming; he nonetheless believed that the programs brought high total viewership and did not care about demographics. Dann's superior, CBS president James T. Aubrey, likewise believed rural sitcoms were a crucial part of the network's formula for success.^[4] Robert Wood, a later president of CBS, pressured Dann to cancel the rural programs. Dann was forced out shortly after he responded:

"Just because the people who buy refrigerators are between 26 and 35 and live in Scarsdale, you should not beam your programming only at them."^[5]

Instigation[edit]

As summarized for the Museum of Broadcast Communications:^[1]

By the late 1960s, ...many viewers, especially young ones, were rejecting [rural-themed] shows as irrelevant to modern times. Mayberry's total isolation from contemporary problems was part of its appeal, but more than a decade of media coverage of the civil rights movement had brought about a change in the popular image of the small Southern town. Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C., was set on a U.S. Marine base between 1964 and 1969, but neither Gomer nor any of his fellow marines ever mentioned the war in Vietnam. CBS executives, afraid of losing the lucrative youth demographic, purged their schedule of hit shows that were drawing huge but older-skewing audiences.

Although the purge of rural programming began in 1970, it was foreshadowed a few years earlier. In 1967, CBS ordered a mass cancellation of the network's remaining panel game shows: What's My Line?, I've Got a Secret and To Tell the Truth. These programs were still extremely profitable (mainly because of their low budgets) but performed poorly in demographics.^[6] The network attempted to incorporate more urban programming, including the innovative sitcom He & She in the 1967 season, but a clash with that show's lead-in (Green Acres) led to its cancellation; as a foreshadowing of things to come, He & Shewould be rebroadcast in reruns during the summer of 1970, just before the purge began. The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, likewise an innovative and far more successful program that appealed to a younger audience, also debuted in 1967.^{[citation needed]}

The purge was instigated by CBS executive Robert Wood who replaced longtime CBS programming head Michael Dann with Fred Silverman, following research highlighting the greater attraction to advertisers of the young adult urban viewer demographic.^[7] Much of CBS's existing product either drew audiences that were too old and rural, or drew another undesirable demographic: young boys, who lacked disposable income of their own.^[8] Their lack of relevance was referred to in Gil Scott-Heron's 1970 spoken-word piece "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised", which alludes to at least seven of the shows that are eventually canceled as part of the purge, mentioning that as part of the titular revolution, the shows "will no longer be so damned relevant". Another factor in the purge was the loss of a half-hour of prime time programming each night as a result of the Prime Time Access Rule, which took effect in 1971; as a result of the new rule, the networks (all of which had started prime time at 7:30 p.m. Eastern Time before the rule took effect) had to trim the equivalent of seven half-hour programs from their weekly schedules and give them back to the local stations.^{[citation needed]}

The numerous cancellations prompted Pat Buttram ("Mr. Haney" on one of the canceled shows, Green Acres) to make the observation: "It was the year CBS canceled everything with a tree—including Lassie".^[9][10]

The first rural-themed show canceled by Silverman was Petticoat Junction in 1970. In September 1970, The Mary Tyler Moore Show premiered on CBS. All in the Family premiered in January 1971 as a midseason replacement. Both series provided the urban demographic, cutting-edge social relevance, and ratings that CBS sought.^{[citation needed]} These ratings successes prompted Silverman and the network to cancel Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, Mayberry R.F.D., Hee Haw, and The Jim Nabors Hour at the end of the 1970–71 season, as well as cut short The New Andy Griffith Show, a comeback vehicle for Andy Griffith, after only ten episodes. (The New Andy Griffith Show was a last-minute replacement for Headmaster, Griffith's unsuccessful effort to reach a more refined, urban audience; Headmaster was canceled after only 14 episodes.) Another series, The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour, lasted until the end of the 1971–72 season.^{[citation needed]}

ABC also was looking for younger audiences, and in May 1971 canceled shows that skewed toward rural viewers (such as The Johnny Cash Show) or older viewers (Make Room for Granddaddy and The Lawrence Welk Show). NBC also targeted rural- and older-oriented programs in its cuts, eliminating long-running programs such as Wild Kingdom, The Andy Williams Show and The Virginian, all of which ran nine seasons or more.^{[citation needed]}

 

Popularity of cancelled shows[edit]

Syndication proved to be a haven for many of the canceled programs. Welk's program—a mainstay of television since the summer of 1955—immediately moved to first-run syndication, where it enjoyed an additional 11 years before Welk's retirement in 1982. Reruns of the show began almost immediately afterward, and continue to this day on PBS. Wild Kingdom, Lassie, and Hee Haw also continued in first-run syndication after their cancellations in 1971. Lassie ran until 1973, while Hee Haw had even greater success, lasting until 1991. (The timing of Hee Haw and Welk entering syndication was particularly opportune; along with the urban-oriented Soul Train that entered syndication the same year, these music-oriented niche programs became very popular throughout the 1970s and into the 1980s.) Wild Kingdomprimarily aired reruns, but continued to produce occasional new episodes in syndication through 1987. Both Andy Williams and Johnny Cash returned with short-lived revivals of their shows in 1976 and continued to produce annual specials into the 1980s.

Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C. was the first of the rural-based shows to leave the air. However, this was not due to its rural theme, but instead to Jim Nabors's desire to move to something else – "reach for another rung on the ladder, either up or down". He was given a new show, The Jim Nabors Hour, as a replacement for the next season.^[11] Mayberry R.F.D., itself a direct continuation of The Andy Griffith Show (from which Gomer Pyle had spun off) finished number 4 for the year and was renewed for two more seasons.^[12] The first of the cancellations was The Red Skelton Show, which had finished the 1969–70 season as the number 7 show when it was axed by CBS.^[13] The show's move back to NBC and its altered format drew away its viewership, thus it fell out of the top 30 by the end of the 1970–71 season. Petticoat Junction is another series often cited in the purge, but that show was already in decline (due in part to shifting tastes and to the death of star Bea Benaderet in 1968) by the time it was canceled in 1970. The success of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, All in the Family, and newer, more urban variety shows such as The Carol Burnett Show in 1967 and The Flip Wilson Show in 1970, would allow for the mass cancellations of most of the now "undesired shows" at the end of 1971, despite their high ratings and popularity. Both Green Acres and The Beverly Hillbillies had dropped from the Nielsen top 30 by the 1970–71 season, yet both shows continued to win their respective time slots and had a loyal following, warranting renewal for another season. Other shows still pulling in even higher ratings when canceled included Mayberry R.F.D., which finished the season at number 15, Hee Haw at number 16, and The Jim Nabors Hour at number 29.^[14] Nevertheless, the course had been set by the networks and the shows were canceled to free up the schedules for newer shows.

The inclusion of demographics in determining a series' worth to its sponsors meant high ratings alone did not necessarily warrant a series for renewal. Series such as ABC's The Brady Bunch and The Partridge Family were never truly ratings hits; however, both series appealed to a younger demographic and thus were renewed for three more seasons and were rerun on various outlets for decades thereafter.

Replacement shows[edit]

Silverman replaced much of the canceled programming in 1971 and 1972 with "relevant" fare. Following All in the Family were its many spinoffs including Maude and The Jeffersons. Following the success of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, the series' production company MTM Productions would develop the popular The Bob Newhart Show. M*A*S*H was added to the network in 1972, remaining constantly in the top 15 of shows for the next 11 seasons, and eventually aired the most watched single episode of any series in U.S. television history during its 1983 series finale.

An unusual side effect of the rural purge was the diminution of the laugh track. Most of the rural-oriented programs were filmed in the single-camera setup without a studio audience, with the canned laughter added by laugh-track proprietor Charley Douglass. The newer shows that came to television in the early 1970s were multiple-camera setups with live studio audiences, a trend that would become the norm throughout the 1970s and 1980s, with Douglass's laugh track mostly limited to sweetening.

Under Silverman's watch, game shows returned to the network's daytime schedule during this period, as well (unlike NBC or ABC, CBS had not carried a daytime game show since To Tell the Truth ended its run in 1968, instead opting for reruns of 1960s prime-time sitcoms such as The Lucy Show and Gomer Pyle, U.S.M.C., both of which had left the air by that point). The first of these shows was The Amateur's Guide to Love, which ran for three months in the Spring and Summer of 1972. Shortly afterward, on September 4, the network debuted three new game shows: The New Price Is Right, Gambit, and The Joker's Wild. All three shows had relatively long runs, with Joker ending its CBS run in 1975 (then returning in syndication in 1977), Gambit at the end of 1976, and Price still airing as of 2017.

Despite the relatively large number of "old guard" variety shows canceled in the purge, Silverman actually continued to create new variety shows to replace the ones he had canceled; one of the first was The Sonny & Cher Show, which debuted in February 1971 and would last until Sonny and Cher divorced in 1974 (Silverman then retained Cher's services, signing her to her own show in 1976, after which she agreed to reunite professionally with Sonny for its last year on air, before it ended in 1977). Silverman would later commission Donny & Marie for ABC five years later. He would also, with little success, commission The Brady Bunch Hour for ABC in 1976 and Pink Lady and Jeff and The Susan Anton Show for NBC in 1980, all three of which were received extremely poorly.

Several conservative members of Congress^[who?], as well as President Richard Nixon, expressed displeasure at some of the replacement shows, many of which (especially the more socially conscious shows such as All in the Family) were not particularly "family-friendly". The backlash from the purge prompted CBS to commission, perhaps somewhat facetiously, a rural family drama for its Fall 1972 schedule, but the network scheduled it in what it thought would be a death slot against popular series The Flip Wilson Show and The Mod Squad, allegedly hoping the show would underperform and head to a quick cancellation. Instead, The Waltons went on to run for nine seasons, reaching as high as second in the Nielsens and finishing in the top 30 for seven of its nine years on air. The success of The Waltons started a trend for family dramas throughout the 1970s; such as Little House on the Prairie, Apple's Way, Family, and Eight is Enough.

Other cancellations[edit]

Non-rural-themed shows canceled by CBS included sitcoms Family Affair and Hogan's Heroes in 1971, with the long-running My Three Sons ending in 1972. Variety shows that had been around since the late 1940s and early 1950s, such as The Jackie Gleason Show and The Ed Sullivan Show, were canceled in 1970 and 1971, respectively; likewise, The Original Amateur Hour (a stalwart of network television since its debut, and before that on radio since 1934) ended on its own accord in 1970 due to the show's aging demographics. The Red Skelton Show was canceled by CBS at the end of the 1969–70 season, and was picked up by NBC (the series' original network) for one more season. NBC would also revert Skelton's show to its original half-hour format in place of its more familiar hour-long format on CBS. By the end of 1972, Lucille Ball remained the only long-time star from television's golden era to still have her own show. Ball's show, Here's Lucy, still rated in the Nielsen top ten and would continue to pull in high ratings until its end in 1974. TV westerns were another genre fading in popularity. Apart from Gunsmoke and Bonanza, two prime-time staples which in 1971 had been on the air for a combined 28 years (and would continue to air until 1975 and 1973, respectively), most of the shows in the genre were already off the air at the time of the purge. NBC canceled two of the remaining Westerns in 1971, The Virginian and The High Chaparral. Westerns had already been targeted for cancellation after concerns of violence led to pressure from parents' groups to tone down violence in television, as well as concerns about the portrayal of Native Americans, though the main reason was due to these programs tending to skew older and rural in viewship. By 1969, no new Westerns were debuting.^[15]

Shows canceled due to the purge[edit]

Note: The following shows were canceled at the end of their respective seasons. Some shows did not necessarily have a rural theme, but were perceived to appeal primarily to rural and/or older audiences.

1969–70 season[edit]

• The Original Amateur Hour (DuMont, 1947–49; NBC, 1949–54 and 1957–59; ABC, 1955–57 and 1960; CBS, 1959–1970)
• Petticoat Junction (CBS, 1963–1970)^[1]
• The Red Skelton Show (NBC, 1951–53; CBS, 1953–1970; NBC, 1970–71. canceled by CBS and renewed by NBC)
• The Jackie Gleason Show (DuMont, 1950–52; CBS, 1952–1970)

1970–71 season[edit]

• Green Acres (CBS, 1965–1971)^[1]
• The Beverly Hillbillies (CBS, 1962–1971)^[1]
• Mayberry R.F.D. (CBS, 1968–1971; following The Andy Griffith Show, CBS, 1960–68)^[1]
• Hee-Haw (CBS, 1969–1971,^[1] first run syndication 1971–1991)
• Lassie (CBS, 1954–1971, first run syndication 1971–1973)
• Family Affair (CBS, 1966–1971)
• Hogan's Heroes (CBS, 1965–1971)
• The Jim Nabors Hour (CBS, 1969–1971)^[1]
• The Red Skelton Show (cancelled by NBC)
• The Lawrence Welk Show (locally in Los Angeles 1951–1955, ABC, 1955–1971, first run syndication 1971–1982)
• The Johnny Cash Show (ABC, 1969–1971)
• The Governor & J.J. (CBS, two seasons)
• The Virginian (NBC, 9 seasons)
• The Andy Williams Show (NBC, 10 seasons)
• Wild Kingdom (NBC, 1963–1971; syndication 1971–1988)
• Danny Thomas in Make Room for Granddaddy (ABC, 1 season; following the related Danny Thomas Show on CBS from 1957 to 1964, and ABC from 1953 to 1957)
• The New Andy Griffith Show (CBS, 1970–1971)

In the original draft of CBS's 1971 Rural Purge, Gunsmoke was going to be canceled at the end of the 1970–71 season, while Mayberry R.F.D. and Family Affair would be renewed for the 1971–72 season. This plan was revised due to Gunsmoke's Top-10 Ratings, ranking #5 in the Nielsen Ratings for the 1970–71 season; in fact, the show's ratings rose to #4 in the next (1971–72) season. Another factor that helped its renewal was that Gunsmoke was the favorite TV program of Barbara Paley, wife of CBS Chief Executive William Paley, even though Fred Silverman and Robert Wood both favored cancelling Gunsmoke over Mayberry R.F.D. and Family Affair.

ABC seriously considered picking up Family Affair following its cancellation by CBS, and adding the show to the 1971-72 ABC Prime-Time schedule, but eventually passed on this decision. This was due to the fact that ABC had two similar shows with similar audiences (The Brady Bunch and The Partridge Family), and also the network came to the conclusion that Family Affair had run its course.

1971–72 season[edit]

• The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour (CBS, 1969–1972)
• My Three Sons (ABC, 1960–65; CBS, 1965–72)

1972–73 season[edit]

• Bonanza (NBC, 1959–1973)
• The Doris Day Show (CBS, 1968–1973 – though deviated from its rural/family theme after the 1970–71 season)

1973–74 season[edit]

• Here's Lucy (CBS, 1968–74, following the related CBS series The Lucy Show (1962–1968), The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour (1957–1960), and I Love Lucy (1951–1957)

1974–75 season[edit]

• Gunsmoke (CBS, 1955–1975)

[AirwickWithCheese]

RG, my friend,

You are starting to go down the Cheese road. Please turn around for your own well being. 

Sincerely, 

Cheese

[Randomguy]

4 minutes ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

RG, my friend,

You are starting to go down the Cheese road. Please turn around for your own well being. 

Sincerely, 

Cheese

I found this all very interesting!

[AirwickWithCheese]

No doubt.  It's the timeline of our lives my friend.    

[Caretaker]

Time for a 'reality' purge.

[maddmaxx ★]

Time for another 30 days RG.

[Ralphie ★]

I had read that before.  Very interesting!  Wikipedia is sort of a paradise for the terminally curious. 

 

[Ralphie ★]

4 hours ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

RG, my friend,

You are starting to go down the Cheese road. Please turn around for your own well being. 

Sincerely, 

Cheese

A word to the wise.

 

[Johnny Come Lately Name]

TLDR

[parodybot]

10 hours ago, Randomguy said:

I found this all very interesting!

so did Cheese.  

[TrentonMakes]

11 hours ago, Randomguy said:

I found this all very interesting!

Same here, including the fact that Gil Scott Heron's "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" references this purge.

[Ralphie ★]

Quote

or drew another undesirable demographic: young boys, who lacked disposable income of their own.^[8]

  Moi!  Those bastards! 

[Ralphie ★]

On 8/14/2017 at 11:01 AM, TrentonMakes said:

Same here, including the fact that Gil Scott Heron's "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" references this purge.

Gil does not get nearly enough airplay!  I played the grooves off his Free Will CD back in the CD days!  

Nice post RG.

[maddmaxx ★]

To me it seems that the rural purge is happening in reality, not just TV.

[Mr. Silly]

In hindsite, most the the canceled shows were kinda crappy

[Razors Edge ★]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Silly said:

In hindsite, most the the canceled shows were kinda crappy

...or jumped the shark.  Using Happy Days as an example, it would have been a shame to cancel that after two seasons, but it was about dead by the time they did.  Was the Beverly Hillbillies still as good in 1971 as it was in 1963?  Probably not.

[Mr. Silly]

4 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

...or jumped the shark.  Using Happy Days as an example, it would have been a shame to cancel that after two seasons, but it was about dead by the time they did.  Was the Beverly Hillbillies still as good in 1971 as it was in 1963?  Probably not.

Beverly Hillbillies was OK I guess while it was black and white.  It was pretty tired by the time it got switched to color.

'Here's Lucy' was DOA. 

Ed Sullivan was pretty strong up to when it ended in '82.

[Razors Edge ★]

Never ever ever heard of the DuMont Television Network!!!!

I wonder if Jeopardy has ever used them as a question?

 

The DuMont Television Network (also known as the DuMont Network, DuMont Television, simply DuMont/Du Mont, or (incorrectly) Dumont[a] /ˈduːmɒnt/) was one of America's pioneer commercial television networks, rivaling NBC and CBS for the distinction of being first overall in the United States. It was owned by Allen B. DuMont Laboratories,[1] a television equipment and television set manufacturer, and began operation on April 13, 1940.[3][4]

The network was hindered by the prohibitive cost of broadcasting, a freeze on new television stations in 1948 by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) that restricted the network's growth,[5] and even the company's partner, Paramount Pictures. Despite several innovations in broadcasting and being the launching spot for one of television's biggest stars of the 1950s—Jackie Gleason—the network never found itself on solid financial ground. Forced to expand on UHF channels during an era when UHF tuning was not yet a standard feature on television sets, DuMont fought an uphill battle for program clearances outside its three owned-and-operated stations in New York City, Washington D.C., and Pittsburgh, ultimately ending network operations on August 6, 1956.

DuMont's latter-day obscurity, caused mainly by the destruction of its extensive program archive by the 1970s, has prompted TV historian David Weinstein to refer to it as the "forgotten network".[6] A few popular DuMont programs, such as Cavalcade of Stars and Emmy Award winner Life Is Worth Living, appear in television retrospectives or are mentioned briefly in books about U.S. television history.

However, "Watch DuMont," a free app and streaming service available through Roku, is a collection of several dozen episodes of game shows, mysteries, science fiction series such as "Captain Video" and "Tom Corbett, Space Cadet," unaired pilots, and other items.

 

[bikeman564™]

28 minutes ago, Mr. Silly said:

In hindsite, most the the canceled shows were kinda crappy

and still better than anything on now

[Razors Edge ★]

4 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said:

and still better than anything on now

No way.  Better than a bunch, but with hundreds of shows nowadays, hard not to be. Heck, a lot of YouTube stuff is better than much of the stuff being "produced" - then or now.

[maddmaxx ★]

15 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

Never ever ever heard of the DuMont Television Network!!!!

I wonder if Jeopardy has ever used them as a question?

The DuMont Television Network (also known as the DuMont Network, DuMont Television, simply DuMont/Du Mont, or (incorrectly) Dumont[a] /ˈduːmɒnt/) was one of America's pioneer commercial television networks, rivaling NBC and CBS for the distinction of being first overall in the United States. It was owned by Allen B. DuMont Laboratories,[1] a television equipment and television set manufacturer, and began operation on April 13, 1940.[3][4]

The network was hindered by the prohibitive cost of broadcasting, a freeze on new television stations in 1948 by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) that restricted the network's growth,[5] and even the company's partner, Paramount Pictures. Despite several innovations in broadcasting and being the launching spot for one of television's biggest stars of the 1950s—Jackie Gleason—the network never found itself on solid financial ground. Forced to expand on UHF channels during an era when UHF tuning was not yet a standard feature on television sets, DuMont fought an uphill battle for program clearances outside its three owned-and-operated stations in New York City, Washington D.C., and Pittsburgh, ultimately ending network operations on August 6, 1956.

DuMont's latter-day obscurity, caused mainly by the destruction of its extensive program archive by the 1970s, has prompted TV historian David Weinstein to refer to it as the "forgotten network".[6] A few popular DuMont programs, such as Cavalcade of Stars and Emmy Award winner Life Is Worth Living, appear in television retrospectives or are mentioned briefly in books about U.S. television history.

However, "Watch DuMont," a free app and streaming service available through Roku, is a collection of several dozen episodes of game shows, mysteries, science fiction series such as "Captain Video" and "Tom Corbett, Space Cadet," unaired pilots, and other items.

I don't remember the network, but I do remember some of the shows.  I was 10 when they shut down.

[Razors Edge ★]

2 minutes ago, maddmaxx said:

I don't remember the network, but I do remember some of the shows.  I was 10 when they shut down.

Seems like only three "big" markets and then the UHF challenge.  

[Mr. Silly]

We didn't have UHF until the '78'ish so I missed a lot of shows, including most of the cool syndicated stuff.  Even though we didn't have UHF, we were one of the first my friends to have color.  I'd say we had color TV in the early '70's.

[bikeman564™]

6 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

No way.  Better than a bunch, but with hundreds of shows nowadays, hard not to be. Heck, a lot of YouTube stuff is better than much of the stuff being "produced" - then or now.

I'm looking at strictly network TV because those shows were network.

[Razors Edge ★]

1 minute ago, Mr. Silly said:

We didn't have UHF until the '78'ish so I missed a lot of shows, including most of the cool syndicated stuff.  Even though we didn't have UHF, we were one of the first my friends to have color.  I'd say we had color TV in the early '70's.

What does "didn't have UHF" mean? Wouldn't that color TV come with UHF channels and the antenna inputs?  

[Razors Edge ★]

Just now, bikeman564™ said:

I'm looking at strictly network TV because those shows were network.

Fighting words for @MickinMD!!!!

[bikeman564™]

18 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

Fighting words for @MickinMD!!!!

2017 was a line in the sand moment for me on most watching TV.  I watched Big Bang Theory, but not the last season. Watched some Young Sheldon, but only few episodes. Being older, I can't stomach new stuff.

I did enjoy an episode of Our Miss Brooks this morning  

[Razors Edge ★]

Just now, bikeman564™ said:

Being older, I can't stomach new stuff.

PBS (broadcast!) is your friend.  Tons of good stuff on there.  

[bikeman564™]

38 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

PBS (broadcast!) is your friend.  Tons of good stuff on there.  

There is.
But I stick to the sub channels too

[Mr. Silly]

1 hour ago, Razors Edge said:

What does "didn't have UHF" mean? Wouldn't that color TV come with UHF channels and the antenna inputs?  

UHF were the channels over channel 13, right?

Even though our TV had that new fangled color voodoo in it, the tuner would still only go to 13.  We later got a TV that allowed us to get the extra channels.  We had to switch the first tuner to UHF the use the other tuner to get to the cool channels with Star Trek reruns.  

[Razors Edge ★]

1 minute ago, Mr. Silly said:

UHF were the channels over channel 13, right?

Even though our TV had that new fangled color voodoo in it, the tuner would still only go to 13.  We later got a TV that allowed us to get the extra channels.  We had to switch the first tuner to UHF the use the other tuner to get to the cool channels with Star Trek reruns.  

Wild!  Being born in 1970, we only ever had TVs with the two dials - VHF and UHF -(and later, obviously, buttons & remotes that changed channels).  

[Ralphie ★]

1 hour ago, bikeman564™ said:

2017 was a line in the sand moment for me on most watching TV.  I watched Big Bang Theory, but not the last season. Watched some Young Sheldon, but only few episodes. Being older, I can't stomach new stuff.

I did enjoy an episode of Our Miss Brooks this morning  

Young Sheldon is my favourite show now. 

[bikeman564™]

11 minutes ago, Ralphie said:

Young Sheldon is my favourite show now. 

I've caught a couple reruns while eating dinner. When are the new episodes on?

Oak Island is my favorite

[bikeman564™]

1 hour ago, Razors Edge said:

What does "didn't have UHF" mean? Wouldn't that color TV come with UHF channels and the antenna inputs?  

[bikeman564™]

28 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

Being born in 1970, we only ever had TVs with the two dials - VHF and UHF

this

[Ralphie ★]

1 minute ago, bikeman564™ said:

 

5 minutes ago, bikeman564™ said:

I've caught a couple reruns while eating dinner. When are the new episodes on?

Oak Island is my favorite

Feb. 15!  Last season, ahspose because all the kiddos are aboot grown up!

https://people.com/young-sheldon-season-7-everything-to-know-8406897

[Ralphie ★]

34 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

Wild!  Being born in 1970, we only ever had TVs with the two dials - VHF and UHF -(and later, obviously, buttons & remotes that changed channels).  

I was borned in 56 and all the tvs I can remember had uhf dials, but maybe not antennas. I think often we just used an antenna waar alone with no antenna. I know we did that in college. There the debate was does it carry electricity or not since it was two open waars.

But then my memory is in the shitter like kazoo’s.

 

 

[maddmaxx ★]

And to do it right you needed a power rotating antenna to point more or less directly at the UHF station.  Of course I lived out in the sticks at that time.

[Razors Edge ★]

52 minutes ago, maddmaxx said:

And to do it right you needed a power rotating antenna to point more or less directly at the UHF station.  Of course I lived out in the sticks at that time.

Isn't that what children were for????  Go hold the ears! Rotate! Hold it there! A little more....

[Rattlecan ★]

5 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

Isn't that what children were for????  Go hold the ears! Rotate! Hold it there! A little more....

Yeah, stand on one foot, reach up and out as far as you can holding a coat hanger with ribbons of tin foil hanging from it.

[Razors Edge ★]

2 minutes ago, Rattlecan said:

Yeah, stand on one foot, reach up and out as far as you can holding a coat hanger with ribbons of tin foil hanging from it.

[Mr. Silly]

1 hour ago, maddmaxx said:

And to do it right you needed a power rotating antenna to point more or less directly at the UHF station.  Of course I lived out in the sticks at that time.

I lived about 5 miles from the broadcast antenna.  Unless the weather was bad or my momwas vaccuming, we had a pretty reception.  

[Ralphie ★]

2 hours ago, Razors Edge said:

Isn't that what children were for????  Go hold the ears! Rotate! Hold it there! A little more....

Fox viewing position!

[MickinMD ★]

The networks jump on any new themes that recently worked and we've gone through lots of: 1800's westerns, spies, country, social awareness, etc.

Some themes get dropped because the networks think people are tired of them even when their ratings are good.

Police Investigation shows have consistently been popular from Dragnet to the CSI Series and the curious not-the-usual ones like Mod Squad and Bones.

I'm pissed about the decrease in smart people shows.  We've lost Bones, The Big Bang Theory, and Scorpion lamentably only lasted four seasons despite revealing more of Paige's (Kat McPhee's) magnificent cleavage toward the end and Happy's (Jadyn Wong's) enjoyably anticipated standard signal when things went wrong:

 

[az_cyclist]

I need more beer to read all of that