shootingstar Posted October 21, 2017 Share #1 Posted October 21, 2017 https://s3.ca-central-1.amazonaws.com/torontoglobal/TorontoRegionResponsetoAmazonHQ2RFP_PD.pdf So says the ex-CEO and biz advisor on Toronto's bid for Amazon HQ2 city. The guy quoted was recently retired CEO for a major Canadian national bank (with branches in U.S. now). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted October 21, 2017 Share #2 Posted October 21, 2017 Once global warming turns Canada's climate into the new Southern California, I will consider moving there. I'll be dead by then, but if I was alive I would consider it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted October 21, 2017 Share #3 Posted October 21, 2017 The prices on those real estate shows from Kanada make it seem like a nightmare to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share #4 Posted October 21, 2017 I agree, global warming is noticeable in Canada because it's our country that has more glaciers, huge hunks of the Arctic...and that's where the climate change science starts. Anyway they are predicting higher water flooding... As an ex-Ontariorian (where I lived , worked in TO for 20+ yrs., grew up in Waterloo), it bothered me when several years ago here in Alberta at the peak of our oil economy boom, some Albertans were sneering at Ontario. Just arrogant and unaware of the diverse economic powerhouse of southern Ontario for rest of Canada. It really is: very high concentration of major universities, technical colleges, cross-collaborations with industry for decades not just in STEM, but other disciplines also. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share #5 Posted October 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: The prices on those real estate shows from Kanada make it seem like a nightmare to me! In Toronto, but in other cities outside of TO, it can be cheaper. If Amazon comes, it will mess up real estate markets..meaning going up.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD Posted October 21, 2017 Share #6 Posted October 21, 2017 It's not a good comparison to compare the Toronto Region to other cities without their suburbs. Of course, we in Maryland are trying to attract Amazon. The suburbs of D.C. plus Annapolis and Baltimore less than 30 miles away include a similar well-educated population, one of the world's major ports, and three international airports that straddle the middle of the highways and railroads stretching across the most dense population area of North America. On the other hand, Amazon seems to want so much that whoever gets it may not see much of a benefit unless they are in a high unemployment area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted October 21, 2017 Share #7 Posted October 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, MickinMD said: It's not a good comparison to compare the Toronto Region to other cities without their suburbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted October 21, 2017 Share #8 Posted October 21, 2017 Buffalo/Rochester has the inside track. In addition to the nicest climate in the world from May to October, the housing market will get you a typical 2000 sf house for less than $200,000. Plenty of fresh water recreation, cycling, hiking, and 2 wine regions. Also 60 colleges and universities. Plus me, Tude, Couch, Airehead right in the area. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx Posted October 21, 2017 Share #9 Posted October 21, 2017 Amazon will go to whatever city prostitutes it's future tax revenue the most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted October 21, 2017 Share #10 Posted October 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, BuffJim said: Buffalo/Rochester has the inside track. In addition to the nicest climate in the world from May to October, the housing market will get you a typical 2000 sf house for less than $200,000. Plenty of fresh water recreation, cycling, hiking, and 2 wine regions. Also 60 colleges and universities. Plus me, Tude, Couch, Airehead right in the area. Almost forgot to mention, we have @Dunning Kruger too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted October 21, 2017 Share #11 Posted October 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Amazon will go to whatever city prostitutes it's future tax revenue the most. Or accommodates the company in any way to increase its profits. Capitalism. So far, no one has come up with a better alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted October 21, 2017 Share #12 Posted October 21, 2017 36 minutes ago, BuffJim said: Plus me, Tude, Couch, Airehead right in the area. You probably should have kept that tidbit to yourself. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted October 21, 2017 Share #13 Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: The prices on those real estate shows from Kanada make it seem like a nightmare to me! For the lower socio-economic class, it is becoming hard to live anywhere. Rents are skyrocketing and there are no protections on rent increases. We have a rental. The price we charge is about $150 below market value. We raise their rent every year, but only at the rate of about 3%. This is fair, and we can sleep at night. Our renters love us, but the ROI isn't what it really should be. On a positive note, they take great care of our place and treat us and the home with a ton of respect. Getting them out is going to be sad, when we get ready to sell it to use the money. It will have to be a forced eviction, on an expired lease once it goes back to month to month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted October 21, 2017 Share #14 Posted October 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: For the lower socio-economic class, it is becoming hard to live anywhere. Rents are skyrocketing and there are no protections on rent increases. We have a rental. The price we charge is about $150 below market value. We raise their rent every year, but only at the rate of about 3%. This is fair, and we can sleep at night. Our renters love us, but the ROI isn't what it really should be. On a positive note, they take great care of our place and treat us and the home with a ton of respect. Getting them out is going to be sad, when we get ready to sell it to use the money. It will have to be a forced eviction, on an expired lease once it goes back to month to month. Can they possibly buy it from you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted October 21, 2017 Share #15 Posted October 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: Can they possibly buy it from you? They don't seem to save one penny of their pay. Things like new four wheel motorcycles, big screen TVs in every room, and other expensive items are more of a priority. Their credit isn't good enough to buy a home either. If I were to do an owner carry, I would want an enormous down payment. They don't have it and I don't want to carry a borrower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted October 21, 2017 Share #16 Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, BuffJim said: In addition to the nicest climate in the world from May to October, The world is a big place..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted October 21, 2017 Share #17 Posted October 21, 2017 29 minutes ago, Zephyr said: The world is a big place..... It's that good. Now from November til April is an acquired taste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted October 21, 2017 Share #18 Posted October 21, 2017 31 minutes ago, Zephyr said: The world is a big place..... He has obviously never been to San Diego. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted October 21, 2017 Share #19 Posted October 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Road Runner said: He has obviously never been to San Diego. I was there in May 1990. Great place, except for earthquake season and wildfire season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted October 21, 2017 Share #20 Posted October 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, BuffJim said: I was there in May 1990. Great place, except for earthquake season and wildfire season. And very expensive season! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted October 21, 2017 Share #21 Posted October 21, 2017 3 hours ago, BuffJim said: Buffalo/Rochester has the inside track. In addition to the nicest climate in the world from May to October, the housing market will get you a typical 2000 sf house for less than $200,000. Plenty of fresh water recreation, cycling, hiking, and 2 wine regions. Also 60 colleges and universities. Plus me, Tude, Couch, Airehead right in the area. My dyslexic eyes were watering for a sec, and I wondered: Why would Amazon want an incest climate? Read it again, sorry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr Posted October 21, 2017 Share #22 Posted October 21, 2017 Portland put in a bid. Almost as an after thought. Just so they could be associated with the cool people. the property has already been planned and Amazon does not fit the planned uses at all. Fortunately Portland was late enough in the bid that they won't spend much on the proposal. How much are postcards to mail? Like $1.50 right? Wasted, down the drain F Amazon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneWolf Posted October 21, 2017 Share #23 Posted October 21, 2017 Yeeah, we're bidding too in GR. I see more cons than pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fret Buzz Posted October 21, 2017 Share #24 Posted October 21, 2017 5 hours ago, shootingstar said: American dream has not died, it just exists in Canada Seems like it exists in Vancouver and Toronto. But how is that different from Seattle, Portland, San Fran, LA, San Diego, Denver, Houston, New York, Chicago, Boston, DC, Philly, Atlanta, Miami, yada yada yada??? Canada, like the US, has gaps outside the major cities that are the trouble spots. In the US, the "American Dream" isn't really a struggle for the professional class. It is a struggle for those not in the professional class. That's the problem. We need to make it so folks can achieve their optimal life without being "forced" to follow a professional job path, when the reality is that service careers are where most will end up. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share #25 Posted October 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: Seems like it exists in Vancouver and Toronto. But how is that different from Seattle, Portland, San Fran, LA, San Diego, Denver, Houston, New York, Chicago, Boston, DC, Philly, Atlanta, Miami, yada yada yada??? Canada, like the US, has gaps outside the major cities that are the trouble spots. In the US, the "American Dream" isn't really a struggle for the professional class. It is a struggle for those not in the professional class. That's the problem. We need to make it so folks can achieve their optimal life without being "forced" to follow a professional job path, when the reality is that service careers are where most will end up. Tom I agree the dream anywhere in North America, is for those not in the professional class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted October 21, 2017 Share #26 Posted October 21, 2017 American dream? Like two cars in the garage, being able to afford a home, and not being on food stamps? Yes, that is dead for much of the population. The Brady's had a maid too. That was clearly fantasy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted October 21, 2017 Share #27 Posted October 21, 2017 7 hours ago, BuffJim said: Buffalo/Rochester has the inside track. In addition to the nicest climate in the world from May to October, the housing market will get you a typical 2000 sf house for less than $200,000. Plenty of fresh water recreation, cycling, hiking, and 2 wine regions. Also 60 colleges and universities. Plus me, Tude, Couch, Airehead right in the area. But you have to live in Buffalo... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted October 21, 2017 Share #28 Posted October 21, 2017 2 hours ago, Razors Edge said: Seems like it exists in Vancouver and Toronto. But how is that different from Seattle, Portland, San Fran, LA, San Diego, Denver, Houston, New York, Chicago, Boston, DC, Philly, Atlanta, Miami, yada yada yada??? Canada, like the US, has gaps outside the major cities that are the trouble spots. In the US, the "American Dream" isn't really a struggle for the professional class. It is a struggle for those not in the professional class. That's the problem. We need to make it so folks can achieve their optimal life without being "forced" to follow a professional job path, when the reality is that service careers are where most will end up. Tom You have Trump. The dream is dead. Unless you dream of being an isolationist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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