Are you a racist? Of course. Take the test.

[Wilbur ★]

https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/selectatest.html

Follow the link and select Race IAT

[jsharr ★]

I have a slight automatic preference for white people over black people according the survey

[Randomguy]

I dig white people, according to this racist test.  I should take it again when I am not dog-tired.  

[Wilbur ★]

12 minutes ago, jsharr said:

I have a slight automatic preference for white people over black people according the survey

Me as well. 

[Dirtyhip]

Here is your result:

Your data suggest no automatic preference between African Americans and European Americans.

 

[shootingstar]

I've seen this test but not yet taken time to go through whole thing.

Sadly this gets into all sorts of things related to physical comfort level, physical attraction (what we consider beautiful), who you would hire between 2 equally qualified candidates, etc.  

Good way to get around some of this..is to hang around, be with several (not just 1) people nearly daily/weekly who look completely different from you --skin-wise. For starters, will see differences, big differences in physiology, habits, personality, etc.  

this is how to see First Nations, native Indians...they are like Asians, very drastically different in cultures, languages, etc.  Can you believe that I didn't see this totally until a few years ago, looking at Northwest Coastal groups, Plains and Woodland, etc.?  I actually never paid attention until I lived in different regions of Canada.  Like the big differences among Chinese (different regional) and where born, Japanese, Thais, etc.

I don't mean to get off topic:  see this Aussie (of Chinese descent) who professionally impersonates Kim Jong.  Good for a laugh..in serious times.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kim-impersonator-olympics-1.4540741  

 

[Dirtyhip]

5 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

I've seen this test but not yet taken time to go through whole thing.

Sadly this gets into all sorts of things related to physical comfort level, physical attraction (what we consider beautiful), who you would hire between 2 equally qualified candidates, etc.  

Good way to get around some of this..is to hang around, be with several (not just 1) people nearly daily/weekly who look completely different from you --skin-wise. For starters, will see differences, big differences in physiology, habits, personality, etc.  

this is how to see First Nations, native Indians...they are like Asians, very drastically different in cultures, languages, etc.  Can you believe that I didn't see this totally until a few years ago, looking at Northwest Coastal groups, Plains and Woodland, etc.?  I actually never paid attention until I lived in different regions of Canada.  Like the big differences among Chinese (different regional) and where born, Japanese, Thais, etc.

I don't mean to get off topic:  see this Aussie (of Chinese descent) who professionally impersonates Kim Jong.  Good for a laugh..in serious times.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kim-impersonator-olympics-1.4540741  

 

The test takes less than 5 minutes.  The whole point of this thread is to take it.  In the time you typed up your response, you could have taken it.

[Page Turner]

...I used to be a racist, but now I'm more of a tourist.

[maddmaxx ★]

I've taken this test before.  On different occasions I've come up on both sides of the equation.  This time I came up with no preference.

Don't take this test if you are suffering from post concussion syndrome.  Too many of my answers were preceded by wut?

[Wilbur ★]

7 hours ago, shootingstar said:

I've seen this test but not yet taken time to go through whole thing.

Sadly this gets into all sorts of things related to physical comfort level, physical attraction (what we consider beautiful), who you would hire between 2 equally qualified candidates, etc.  

Good way to get around some of this..is to hang around, be with several (not just 1) people nearly daily/weekly who look completely different from you --skin-wise. For starters, will see differences, big differences in physiology, habits, personality, etc.  

this is how to see First Nations, native Indians...they are like Asians, very drastically different in cultures, languages, etc.  Can you believe that I didn't see this totally until a few years ago, looking at Northwest Coastal groups, Plains and Woodland, etc.?  I actually never paid attention until I lived in different regions of Canada.  Like the big differences among Chinese (different regional) and where born, Japanese, Thais, etc.

I don't mean to get off topic:  see this Aussie (of Chinese descent) who professionally impersonates Kim Jong.  Good for a laugh..in serious times.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/kim-impersonator-olympics-1.4540741  

 

The questions asked are not part of your grading.  The score only relates to your timed response to photos and words.  I get that it may be uncomfortable but it is interesting to see the results.

[shootingstar]

7 hours ago, Dirtyhip said:

The test takes less than 5 minutes.  The whole point of this thread is to take it.  In the time you typed up your response, you could have taken it.

Mine may show a white preference, DH. I'm assimilated into North American society.. or an outlier.  

Right now my brain is concerned about answering 4 mandatory essay questions from an employer and to prepare for a job interview after I return home from work.  

 

[Thaddeus Kosciuszko]

So, racism is making an automatic and incorrect judgment about someone based upon their appearance rather than getting to know them personally.

 

Now, here, take this test on insert-the-characteristic (in this case, racism)

written by people who don't know you

containing decision algorithms subject to a programmer's whim or his automatic bias

that over the course of just mere minutes

will pronounce a judgment about you and your inclinations, preferences, and prejudices that have taken decades to develop within you

that you don't even know you have yet.

 

I mean no offense to Wilbur, and I hope none is perceived.  These kinds of 'tests' can be interesting and can help promote meaningful discussions.  However I place little stock in the outcome of such 'tests' because the basis of their designs can be so arbitrary.  And if the basis of design is arbitrary, the accuracy of the result remains in question.

[maddmaxx ★]

8 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said:

So, racism is making an automatic and incorrect judgment about someone based upon their appearance rather than getting to know them personally.

 

Now, here, take this test on insert-the-characteristic (in this case, racism)

written by people who don't know you

containing decision algorithms subject to a programmer's whim or his automatic bias

that over the course of just mere minutes

will pronounce a judgment about you and your inclinations, preferences, and prejudices that have taken decades to develop within you

that you don't even know you have yet.

 

I mean no offense to Wilbur, and I hope none is perceived.  These kinds of 'tests' can be interesting and can help promote meaningful discussions.  However I place little stock in the outcome of such 'tests' because the basis of their designs can be so arbitrary.  And if the basis of design is arbitrary, the accuracy of the result remains in question.

 

I have a preference for tall blonds with nice legs.  Oh noes.

[Wilbur ★]

21 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said:

So, racism is making an automatic and incorrect judgment about someone based upon their appearance rather than getting to know them personally.

 

Now, here, take this test on insert-the-characteristic (in this case, racism)

written by people who don't know you

containing decision algorithms subject to a programmer's whim or his automatic bias

that over the course of just mere minutes

will pronounce a judgment about you and your inclinations, preferences, and prejudices that have taken decades to develop within you

that you don't even know you have yet.

 

I mean no offense to Wilbur, and I hope none is perceived.  These kinds of 'tests' can be interesting and can help promote meaningful discussions.  However I place little stock in the outcome of such 'tests' because the basis of their designs can be so arbitrary.  And if the basis of design is arbitrary, the accuracy of the result remains in question.

None taken.  There are certain indicators and markers that point to a result.  Of course there will be design and even bias factors but it is put together by a pretty credible university. There is no judgement here.  Racial bias isn't an instinct as much as it is learned through a number of external factors. It may take a lifetime to develop or it may take one incident but it is there. How you act on such biases or let them influence your thought is the good or bad part. 

[maddmaxx ★]

11 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

None taken.  There are certain indicators and markers that point to a result.  Of course there will be design and even bias factors but it is put together by a pretty credible university. There is no judgement here.  Racial bias isn't an instinct as much as it is learned through a number of external factors. It may take a lifetime to develop or it may take one incident but it is there. How you act on such biases or let them influence your thought is the good or bad part. 

And that IMO is how one differentiates between tribalism and racism.  

[Wilbur ★]

1 minute ago, maddmaxx said:

And that IMO is how one differentiates between tribalism and racism.  

sigh...

[maddmaxx ★]

Just now, Wilbur said:

sigh...

Trust me.  There are people out there who would like to claim the results of your bias test proves racism.  It does everyone a great disservice to blend the two together.

[Indy]

Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for European Americans over African Americans.

 

Not even sure what that means, all I know is I couldn't give a shit less about race.

[Wilbur ★]

4 minutes ago, maddmaxx said:

Trust me.  There are people out there who would like to claim the results of your bias test proves racism.  It does everyone a great disservice to blend the two together.

Trust you?  We are talking psychology here which isn't a black and white science.  What you believe and I believe, even though common, are different with "correct" being a perception not a fact. 

I will say, tribalism may be the grandparent of racism but they are now, more closely intertwined. The difference being one is still considered an instinct.  There are a lot of tests though that show the same physiological responses with racism. Same meaning racism causes the same response as an instinct.  Therein lies the grey area of psychology. 

[maddmaxx ★]

20 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Trust you?  We are talking psychology here which isn't a black and white science.  What you believe and I believe, even though common, are different with "correct" being a perception not a fact. 

I will say, tribalism may be the grandparent of racism but they are now, more closely intertwined. The difference being one is still considered an instinct.  There are a lot of tests though that show the same physiological responses with racism. Same meaning racism causes the same response as an instinct.  Therein lies the grey area of psychology. 

And I see a world where sharp lawyers twist these words into the concept of reparations.  Certain words contain loaded meanings and are often used incorrectly.  Fight or flight and tribalism instincts are different from Racism and I will object to any confusion between the two.

Just my take on the use of words and their clear meanings.  I don't object to the concept of tribalism at all.  We all do stereotypes (applied statistics) every day in our quick scan of our surroundings.  Some of these are instinctive and most are learned from the world we live in and the people around us.  There are miles of difference between this and the sorts of things that are real racism.

[Wilbur ★]

2 minutes ago, maddmaxx said:

There are miles of difference between this and the sorts of things that are real racism.

Meaning the acts of racism? 

[maddmaxx ★]

1 minute ago, Wilbur said:

Meaning the acts of racism? 

No.  Even the thoughts.  My step dad was a classic example of going on for hours about how you couldn't hurt a black boxer by hitting him in the head.  That's racism.

 

[Page Turner]

...you're all a bunch of specists.

 

 

[Wilbur ★]

1 minute ago, Page Turner said:

...you're all a bunch of specists.

 

 

I hate chickens so have decided to eat the bastards!

[Razors Edge ★]

1 minute ago, Wilbur said:

Are you a racist? Of course. Take the test.

I am "prejudiced" rather than "racist".  Along the lines of the definition #1:

1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

Like stated by some others, it is how you act on that prejudice that shows your character (or lack thereof).

Tom

[jsharr ★]

3 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

I am "prejudiced" rather than "racist".  Along the lines of the definition #1:

1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason.

Like stated by some others, it is how you act on that prejudice that shows your character (or lack thereof).

Tom

I try to be equally offensive to all, but I fear that I treat @Wilbur and @Kzoo with undeserved deference and heap disdain upon @maddmaxx and @Page Turner and do not even get me started on that gentrified cracker known as @AirwickWithCheese

[Wilbur ★]

semantics 

[Wilbur ★]

1 minute ago, jsharr said:

I try to be equally offensive to all, but I fear that I treat @Wilbur and @Kzoo with undeserved deference and heap disdain upon @maddmaxx and @Page Turner and do not even get me started on that gentrified cracker known as @AirwickWithCheese

In other words.. You are a Texan. 

[jsharr ★]

1 minute ago, Wilbur said:

semantics 

are those different from the ones that just suck blood?

[jsharr ★]

1 minute ago, Wilbur said:

In other words.. You are a Texan. 

I sir am a Texian at best, and a Texican at worst.  

[Zephyr]

10 hours ago, Dirtyhip said:

Here is your result:

Your data suggest no automatic preference between African Americans and European Americans.

 

^^ THIS ^^

I think I got more of the words than pictures wrong.  I should have had my morning coffee first

[maddmaxx ★]

3 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

semantics 

Usually degenerates into anti-semantics.

[Wilbur ★]

2 hours ago, Wilbur said:

How you act on such biases or let them influence your thought is the good or bad part. 

 

9 minutes ago, Razors Edge said:

Like stated by some others,

Um, yea, that was me not others. 

[Wilbur ★]

3 minutes ago, Zephyr said:

^^ THIS ^^

I think I got more of the words than pictures wrong.  I should have had my morning coffee first

You passed the black vs white test!  

[jsharr ★]

3 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

You passed the black vs white test!  

I will take a flat white please!!!!!

[Zephyr]

2 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

You passed the black vs white test!  

LOL, my wife would not be surprised.  She always says I see things as too black or white.

[bikeman564™]

11 hours ago, jsharr said:

I have a slight automatic preference for white people over black people according the survey

same

[Thaddeus Kosciuszko]

3 hours ago, Indy said:

Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for European Americans over African Americans.

 

What I want to know: Are we talking laden or unladen European- and African-Americans?

[Wilbur ★]

5 minutes ago, Thaddeus Kosciuszko said:

 

What I want to know: Are we talking laden or unladen European- and African-Americans?

This is not about getting laden. 

[Ltdskilz]

I think the test is implicitly biased. Practice at making repeated associations will skew the test results to favor the responses which are made after one gets comfortable with the test methodology. Sort of like Jeopardy contestants get better at anticipating when to hit the button the longer they play, giving winners a built in advantage over new players. I suspect they can skew the results by the timing in which you are to associate blacks faces with negative names and vice versa.

[jsharr ★]

6 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

This is not about getting laden. 

It isn't?  And I just got my laden "hosen" out.  What am I supposed to do with it now?

 

Luckily, I got the white one out.  It is very small and easier to deal with than the black one.

[maddmaxx ★]

36 minutes ago, Ltdskilz said:

I think the test is implicitly biased. Practice at making repeated associations will skew the test results to favor the responses which are made after one gets comfortable with the test methodology. Sort of like Jeopardy contestants get better at anticipating when to hit the button the longer they play, giving winners a built in advantage over new players. I suspect they can skew the results by the timing in which you are to associate blacks faces with negative names and vice versa.

The people who made the test agree with you if you read past the test.  They claim however than the changes in results made by re-ordering the samples are "small".