Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Share #1 Posted September 9, 2018 Sorry young lady, you had your ass handed to you in set one and had a temper tantrum that destroyed the rest of your match. Sexism had nothing to do with your loss. The call from a male umpire doesn't mean he is sexist. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 9, 2018 Share #2 Posted September 9, 2018 I don't know what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #3 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Randomguy said: I don't know what you are talking about. Serena is a French-African tennis player with a bad sport attitude and poor fashion sense and hygiene. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Share #4 Posted September 9, 2018 45 minutes ago, Wilbur said: and had a temper tantrum that destroyed the rest of your match. Maybe she thought it was a good idea to channel McEnroe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted September 9, 2018 Share #5 Posted September 9, 2018 I am certain that coming to terms with falling off the podium are tremendous. Serena has had a contentious relationship with the judges for quite some time. Their banning of her catsuit outfit was ridiculous. It was no more revealing than those ridiculously short skirts that give people glimpses of the players underwear. Those seem to be acceptable to officials. Not sure how I feel about Serena. She seems to be an amazing tennis player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted September 9, 2018 Share #6 Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: Maybe she thought it was a good idea to channel McEnroe. Was McEnroe ever penalized games for criticizing officials? I don’t recall it if he was. i don’t know if it was sexism, but I thought the official was excessively reactive and harsh in retaliation to her complaints. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #7 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Dirtyhip said: I am certain that coming to terms with falling off the podium are tremendous. Serena has had a contentious relationship with the judges for quite some time. Their banning of her catsuit outfit was ridiculous. It was no more revealing than those ridiculously short skirts that give people glimpses of the players underwear. Those seem to be acceptable to officials. Not sure how I feel about Serena. She seems to be an amazing tennis player. Serena is a whore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted September 9, 2018 Share #8 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, AirwickWithCheese said: Serena is a whore. Wow! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted September 9, 2018 Share #9 Posted September 9, 2018 Interesting point about McEnroe. One talking head said that women are considered hysterical and he was just considered win focused. I hate to see anyone act like a poor sport. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 9, 2018 Share #10 Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, AirwickWithCheese said: Serena is a whore. Like Celine Dion? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted September 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Was McEnroe ever penalized games for criticizing officials? I don’t recall it if he was. i don’t know if it was sexism, but I thought the official was excessively reactive and harsh in retaliation to her complaints. https://www.deseretnews.com/article/171029/FOR-THE-RECORD-MCENROES-TANTRUMS-AND-FINES.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #12 Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Randomguy said: Like Celine Dion? Look, just because you are the biological father to my goddaughter, I will not allow you to trash Celine. Celine is the best at her art. Serena is a whore. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Share #13 Posted September 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, Randomguy said: I don't know what you are talking about. Serena Williams is an American tennis player and sister of Venus Williams. Serena was beaten in two straight sets in the final of the U.S. Open. She was crushed in the first set 6-2. The second set she lost, in part, because a one-game penalty resulted in her opponent leading the 2nd set 5-3 instead of 4-3. Her opponent held her own serve to win 6-4, but it would have been 5-4 with Serena serving without the penalty. I'm not familiar enough with the rules and history to figure out if the one game penalty was too severe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #14 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Airehead said: Interesting point about McEnroe. One talking head said that women are considered hysterical and he was just considered win focused. I hate to see anyone act like a poor sport. McEnroe was called a childish asshole by many. He was heavily penalized for his antics and tantrums. See link above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 9, 2018 Share #15 Posted September 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Their banning of her catsuit outfit was ridiculous. Ok, now I know who you are talking about. That catsuit was repulsive, I liked when the rules where that you had to wear frilly-skirted things, and they had to be white (the clothes, not the players). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted September 9, 2018 Share #16 Posted September 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: I am certain that coming to terms with falling off the podium are tremendous. Serena has had a contentious relationship with the judges for quite some time. Their banning of her catsuit outfit was ridiculous. It was no more revealing than those ridiculously short skirts that give people glimpses of the players underwear. Those seem to be acceptable to officials. Not sure how I feel about Serena. She seems to be an amazing tennis player. Interestingly...she was interviewed for a Canadian fitness magazine just recently. http://impactmagazine.ca/about-us/digital-editions What men don't entirely get...is the serious challenge of getting back into very fit body after a pregnancy. I don't watch nor know enough about professional tennis. I would have to ask a friend who is an uber fan of tennis, both as a spectator and also plays tennis several times per wk. Friend is incredibly fit....@62 yrs. (she also cycles long distance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #17 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: Ok, now I know who you are talking about. That catsuit was repulsive, I liked when the rules where that you had to wear frilly-skirted things, and they had to be white. That was the tennis norm but I think Wimbledon was the only major that required white. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #18 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, shootingstar said: Interestingly...she was interviewed for a Canadian fitness magazine just recently. http://impactmagazine.ca/about-us/digital-editions What men don't entirely get...is the serious challenge of getting back into very fit body after a pregnancy. I don't watch nor know enough about professional tennis. I would have to ask a friend who is an uber fan of tennis, both as a spectator and also plays tennis several times per wk. She is incredibly fit....@62 yrs. This had nothing to do with pregnancy. It has everything to do childish behaviour, temper tantrums and maintaining sportsman like conduct facing sporting adversity. She was 100% wrong in her behaviour. Entitled snowflake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #19 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Wilbur said: This had nothing to do with pregnancy. It has everything to do childish behaviour, temper tantrums and maintaining sportsman like conduct facing sporting adversity. She was 100% wrong in her behaviour. Entitled snowflake. And she is a whore. Venus is much nicer but a horrible driver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #20 Posted September 9, 2018 9 minutes ago, Airehead said: Interesting point about McEnroe. One talking head said that women are considered hysterical and he was just considered win focused. I hate to see anyone act like a poor sport. That was Billy Jean King who said that. Incorrect in her assessment here as was her claims of beating a top seated male tennis player. Bobby Riggs, the first useful idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #21 Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wilbur said: That was Billy Jean King who said that. Incorrect in her assessment here as was her claims of beating a top seated male tennis player. Bobby Riggs, the first useful idiot. Billy Jean King was also a whore. I liked Chrissy Evert, Evonne Goolagong Cawley, and sweet little Tracy Austin. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #22 Posted September 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, shootingstar said: What men don't entirely get...is the serious challenge of getting back into very fit body after a pregnancy. We are more intelligent than you may think. Don't let the booby and fart talk influence you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 9, 2018 Share #23 Posted September 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, shootingstar said: What men don't entirely get...is the serious challenge of getting back into very fit body after a pregnancy. Doesn't matter, don't care. Men get out of shape too, no one pats them on the back for being all disgusting and swollen or lies to them about a glow or other such bullshit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #24 Posted September 9, 2018 This was tennis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #25 Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, AirwickWithCheese said: Billy Jean King was also a whore. I liked Chrissy Evert, Evonne Goolagong Cawley, and sweet little Tracy Austin. https://www.espn.com/sportscentury/features/00014187.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #26 Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, AirwickWithCheese said: This was tennis. No grunts, no groans, no thrown rackets, no arguments, no roids and wooden rackets of size that required a lot more skill to play with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted September 9, 2018 Share #27 Posted September 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Doesn't matter, don't care. Men get out of shape too, no one pats them on the back for being all disgusting and swollen or lies to them about a glow or other such bullshit. Sure. I can't comment on the tennis point. So my point is different and now away from Serena. It is simply about pregnancy..that's all. I'm sorry....getting pregnant...is giving your body totally and unselfishly to produce life inside. Something men will never have to make that biological sacrifice. Guys just shoot the seed. That's all. It doesn't minimize 20-25 yrs. of effort of being a daddy. Or being a daddy ….for life and all the things that come with it. (Witness my partner helping his....40 yr. daughter on certain things..it never stops....being a parent.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Share #28 Posted September 9, 2018 32 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: I am certain that coming to terms with falling off the podium are tremendous. Serena has had a contentious relationship with the judges for quite some time. Their banning of her catsuit outfit was ridiculous. It was no more revealing than those ridiculously short skirts that give people glimpses of the players underwear. Those seem to be acceptable to officials. Not sure how I feel about Serena. She seems to be an amazing tennis player. She has recovered for near death during childbirth. It hasn't been easy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #29 Posted September 9, 2018 The forum has gotten riled up over women's tennis. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted September 9, 2018 Share #30 Posted September 9, 2018 24 minutes ago, Wilbur said: McEnroe was called a childish asshole by many. He was heavily penalized for his antics and tantrums. See link above. I see LOTS of fines, one expulsion, but only one point penalty in his career. I think a fine rather than first a point and then a game penalty would have been more reasonable in a major tournament final. I think refs sometimes need to restrain themselves, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #31 Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: I see LOTS of fines, one expulsion, but only one point penalty in his career. I think a fine rather than first a point and then a game penalty would have been more reasonable in a major tournament final. I think refs sometimes need to restrain themselves, too. He was suspended for two firkin months due to antics at the US open and removed due to disqualifications at others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #32 Posted September 9, 2018 A point few women really understand.. You can't blame everything wrong on sexism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #33 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Wilbur said: He was suspended for two firkin months due to antics at the US open and removed due to disqualifications at others. True story. I got suspended for 1 day in high school for defending McEnroe in my history class. I'm not positive, but I think I called Borg a whore. Things would get pretty animated when we'd discuss tennis at my school. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 9, 2018 Share #34 Posted September 9, 2018 16 minutes ago, Wilbur said: No grunts, no groans, no thrown rackets, no arguments, no roids and wooden rackets of size that required a lot more skill to play with. I hate the grunts. Control yourselves. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 9, 2018 Share #35 Posted September 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, shootingstar said: I'm sorry....getting pregnant...is giving your body totally and unselfishly to produce life inside. Something men will never have to make that biological sacrifice. Again, so what? You get out of shape, no matter the reason, then you have to get back in shape if you want to compete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #36 Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Randomguy said: I hate the grunts. Control yourselves. Monica Seles was a whore but she was cute. Cheese knows his tennis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 9, 2018 Share #37 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, AirwickWithCheese said: Monica Seles was a whore but she was cute. Definitely a whore. Didn't she get stabbed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted September 9, 2018 Share #38 Posted September 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Again, so what? You get out of shape, no matter the reason, then you have to get back in shape if you want to compete. THat is the amazing thing for elite female professional atheletes….to get back into shape. Now if men got pregnant, the sports magazines would be full of articles of how they did it. For women...that's not really highlighted...much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #39 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: Definitely a whore. Didn't she get stabbed? Yes. Completely altered her career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #40 Posted September 9, 2018 True story.. I was thrown off the court and out of the 1977 Burnaby Tennis Club Championship for throwing my Dunlop Maxply Fort. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Share #41 Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, Wilbur said: I really hope this is the end for Serena. Maybe you mean "end of the match"? Playing in the finals of the US Open usually indicates you are one of the top two players in the world, so I think we will be blessed to see her a bit more. I'm looking forward to a 24th (and 25th...) Grand Slam title, although I would love for some other women to step up into her shoes. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #42 Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: Maybe you mean "end of the match"? Playing in the finals of the US Open usually indicates you are one of the top two players in the world, so I think we will be blessed to see her a bit more. I'm looking forward to a 24th (and 25th...) Grand Slam title, although I would love for some other women to step up into her shoes. Tom No, I mean 'the end". When they lose their seat, lose sets so easily and lose their shit, the end is near. Want to discuss Tiger now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted September 9, 2018 Share #43 Posted September 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, AirwickWithCheese said: Yes. Completely altered her career. People should get stabbed for grunting on the court. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #44 Posted September 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Wilbur said: True story.. I was thrown off the court and out of the 1977 Burnaby Tennis Club Championship for throwing my Dunlop Maxply Fort. No way!!! I wore the McEnroe polo shirts to school and tried to serve like him. Didn't work well because I was right handed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted September 9, 2018 Share #45 Posted September 9, 2018 30 minutes ago, Wilbur said: A point few women really understand.. You can't blame everything wrong on sexism. I believe that this judge was exceedingly harsh with the penalty point. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Share #46 Posted September 9, 2018 21 minutes ago, Wilbur said: No, I mean 'the end". When they lose their seat, lose sets so easily and lose their shit, the end is near. Want to discuss Tiger now? Well, I know whose sports tips NOT to follow. Not sure why an insanely GREAT tennis player who plays with passion, grit, and social awareness rubs folks the wrong way. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #47 Posted September 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: I believe that this judge was exceedingly harsh with the penalty point. You are entitled to your misguided and ridiculous opinion. We still love you. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #48 Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: I believe that this judge was exceedingly harsh with the penalty point. The point was deserved. Antics like smashing rackets change the game, often against the opponent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share #49 Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Well, I know whose sports tips NOT to follow. Not sure why an insanely GREAT tennis player who plays with passion, grit, and social awareness rubs folks the wrong way. Tom Nobody knows crime better than a criminal. That is why McEnroe is revered as an analyst now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirwickWithCheese Posted September 9, 2018 Share #50 Posted September 9, 2018 Your tennis thread completely derailed my squirrel thread. Screw you and Serena, Wilbur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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