Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #1 Posted November 4, 2018 I've had a small drip in my bathroom faucet for some time now. I always found justification to put it off. Well, tonight I'm sitting on the throne watching the slow, painful drip and decided enough is enough. I'm out of excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted November 4, 2018 Share #2 Posted November 4, 2018 And a man of action springs forth.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #3 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, Further said: And a man of action springs forth.... You know how these fucking plumbing projects go. Real easy or more likely a total PITA. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #4 Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Dottles said: I've had a small drip in my bathroom faucet for some time now. I always found justification to put it off. Well, tonight I'm sitting on the throne watching the slow, painful drip and decided enough is enough. I'm out of excuses. I have the same problem, but of course the shutoff valves are shot after 32 years, so I need to get a friend who knows how to sweat copper joints over to do it, but I also need the other bathroom sink done, the toilet shutoffs replaced, plus for good measure the outside faucets replaced with frost free ones, but they need to slope to the outside and I don't now how to make that happen. Whew! Nothing is easy! At least we already did the kitchen sink, and the new faucet is marvelous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted November 4, 2018 Share #5 Posted November 4, 2018 Got a plumber on your contacts list ?..... Or at least know where the main water shutoff is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #6 Posted November 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Further said: Got a plumber on your contacts list ?..... Or at least know where the main water shutoff is ? I do! Thankfully the water company replaces the main shutoff every 10 years along with the water meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #7 Posted November 4, 2018 I hate paying plumbers. I really, really do. But if you can find a good one, they can make all your pain go away for a big price. You just need to decide you want to use your vacation money to have him/her fix it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #8 Posted November 4, 2018 Be careful - bathroom faucets have very fragile copper tubes that have to be protected from torque. (Don;t ask me how I know that!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #9 Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Further said: Got a plumber on your contacts list ?..... Or at least know where the main water shutoff is ? Yeah, it's in the faucet. I know where the main shutoff valve is but this will just be a matter of shutting them off at the wall. The drip is in the faucet itself. I'm hoping I can just remove the right handle retainer nut and replace the cylinder. That's the hope. You watch. But the end of tomorrow I'll have gone to the hardware store and replaced the whole faucet. It's just how these things work. Sometimes i think it may be cheaper and far less aggravating just to replace the whole faucet from go. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #10 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: Be careful - bathroom faucets have very fragile copper tubes that have to be protected from torque. (Don;t ask me how I know that!) Yeah, the leak is in the faucet only. And I'm pretty sure I don't have copper tubing. But I'm about to go find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #11 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, Dottles said: Yeah, the leak is in the faucet only. And I'm pretty sure I don't have copper tubing. But I'm about to go find out. The copper tubing I am talking about is in the faucet itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted November 4, 2018 Share #12 Posted November 4, 2018 I haven't had very good luck with repairing modern faucets. But on the bright side, good faucets last a long time now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #13 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: The copper tubing I am talking about is in the faucet itself. Now Ralph, you're just trying to make me replace the whole thing before I start!! It's probably inevitable anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #14 Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Further said: I haven't had very good luck with repairing modern faucets. But on the bright side, good faucets last a long time now. I've had bad luck with modern faucets. I thought Deltas were 'sposed to be long lasting, but I got less than 10 years oot of both the kitchen and bathroom ones. Had a bathromm Pfister that was a total POS, but the new kitchen one seems pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #15 Posted November 4, 2018 Alright, Learned some interesting things. While troubleshooting which side was leaky, I shut down the cold or right valve and a strange thing happened. As I turned to off, it actually starts leaking before it shuts down. In other words, turning the valve off has no negative action until the valve approaches shut off, and then water starts leaking out of the joint until I firmly shut it off. Weird. But I have identified that the drip comes from the left or hot side. I don't get the weird leaking when shutting it off. I suspect the right feed coming in from the wall will need to be replaced -- but that's for another time. Right now, I'm going to get this drip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #16 Posted November 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: I've had bad luck with modern faucets. I thought Deltas were 'sposed to be long lasting, but I got less than 10 years oot of both the kitchen and bathroom ones. Had a bathromm Pfister that was a total POS, but the new kitchen one seems pretty nice. If I have a problem, I'm apt to buck up and pay. It's the main bathroom next to the bedroom. Wish me luck. I have identified the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #17 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, Dottles said: If I have a problem, I'm apt to buck up and pay. It's the main bathroom next to the bedroom. Wish me luck. I have identified the culprit. Good luck, we're all counting on you. But Shirley you are not starting this time of night! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #18 Posted November 4, 2018 It's 8 p.m. here. I've shut off the hot water for the night. I'm going to see if disassembling this particular faucet on the left hand side is a pain in the arse or not. But I'll have to go to the hardware store to either replace the part or most likely buy a new faucet. For once, I'd like it to be a part I can get replacement for. I'll actually attempt to fix it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #19 Posted November 4, 2018 Ok good news, I think we can get the replacement part. I go to a hardware store tomorrow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted November 4, 2018 Share #20 Posted November 4, 2018 May the angels be with you.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #21 Posted November 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Dottles said: Ok good news, I think we can get the replacement part. I go to a hardware store tomorrow. Nice quality tools. Those pliers were made in Meadville, Pa. 35 minutes from me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #22 Posted November 4, 2018 I stocked up on new faucets when Mercer Hardware went out of business. That should make the ones I already have last forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #23 Posted November 4, 2018 Once the valve in the wall has been shut off and then turned back on you will have another leak as the unused packing there doesn't like to be disturbed. Better you should use a real valve further upstream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #24 Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, maddmaxx said: Once the valve in the wall has been shut off and then turned back on you will have another leak as the unused packing there doesn't like to be disturbed. Better you should use a real valve further upstream. I guess in general things do not like to be effed with or made to work. :D 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 4, 2018 Share #25 Posted November 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Longjohn said: Nice quality tools. Those pliers were made in Meadville, Pa. 35 minutes from me. One door down from where I worked in the late 70’s. My office window had a great view of their parking lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team scooter Posted November 4, 2018 Share #26 Posted November 4, 2018 I need to replace the leaking frost proof outside faucets, but never think about it unless I'm using them. And like any home project, if I change those, I'd like to also change their inside screw type gate valve shut offs to quarter turn ball valves so I dont have to fend off the spiders in the furthest, darkest corners of the basement any longer then necessary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted November 4, 2018 Share #27 Posted November 4, 2018 Done yet ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #28 Posted November 4, 2018 My plumber is married to a first cousin of Christian Vande Velde so my plumbing has a Tour de France link. Plus Tommy is a good bike rider himself. Tommy was here just last week to fix a couple of leaks. Unfortunately one of the leaks was caused by the contractor who put new flooring in our main bathroom and did it wrong. Basically the toilet has been leaking at its base a little bit for a couple of years and rotted out the wood under it. That's going to be expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #29 Posted November 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Further said: Done yet ? Eeeeeh. No. I just woke up. After I figure out where I'm at and who I am, I need to go down to the hardware store. And I got some stupid friend's kid social event my wife committed us to so -- this could go into tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #30 Posted November 4, 2018 5 hours ago, JerrySTL said: Basically the toilet has been leaking at its base a little bit for a couple of years and rotted out the wood under it. That's going to be expensive. Eeeew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #31 Posted November 4, 2018 Ok. HD doesn't have the part. Going to Lowe's later tonight. If they don't have it, getting a new faucet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 4, 2018 Share #32 Posted November 4, 2018 Do you know the brand of the one you have. Faucet cartridges on name brand faucets are easy peasy 5 minute fixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Author Share #33 Posted November 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Do you know the brand of the one you have. Faucet cartridges on name brand faucets are easy peasy 5 minute fixes. I do not but I know they didn't purchase it down the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #34 Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Kzoo said: One door down from where I worked in the late 70’s. My office window had a great view of their parking lot. I think my 6th grade school was right across the street. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 4, 2018 Share #35 Posted November 4, 2018 I don’t remember a school building. Talon had a building across the street and just a bit south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #36 Posted November 4, 2018 Just now, Kzoo said: I don’t remember a school building. Talon had a building across the street and just a bit south. I know it was in the general area. It was old, I'm pretty sure it has been knocked down by now. 2nd District, I think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 4, 2018 Share #37 Posted November 4, 2018 51 minutes ago, Dottles said: Ok. HD doesn't have the part. Going to Lowe's later tonight. If they don't have it, getting a new faucet. Don’t go to either of those box stores. You need to go to a hardware store. Somewhere like a locally owned independent store or Ace hardware. I hardware store will help you find the part you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted November 4, 2018 Share #38 Posted November 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Dottles said: Ok. HD doesn't have the part. Going to Lowe's later tonight. If they don't have it, getting a new faucet. Both Lowe's and Home Depot source generic faucet parts from Danco. https://www.danco.com/stem-finder/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted November 5, 2018 Share #39 Posted November 5, 2018 Hope it works well in your repair, Dottles. Dearie has tried 3 times over the past few months, to stop the toilet tank from slowly leaking water. The damn flapper changes are not working. He figures there is something wrong with creating a seal.. It makes me wince to call in a plumber for what should be an easy home fix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc2000 Posted November 5, 2018 Share #40 Posted November 5, 2018 ss - You should be able to sand the sealing surface down to remove any low or eroded gaps to fix the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Share #41 Posted November 5, 2018 39 minutes ago, shootingstar said: Hope it works well in your repair, Dottles. Dearie has tried 3 times over the past few months, to stop the toilet tank from slowly leaking water. The damn flapper changes are not working. He figures there is something wrong with creating a seal.. It makes me wince to call in a plumber for what should be an easy home fix. Needs to clean or replace the seat that the flapper seals onto. The old seat may have debris from old flapper valve on it. First try would be to clean the seat will with an abrasive pad. If that does not work, buy a flapper valve kit that comes with a new seat that you can glue on.https://www.supplyhouse.com/Korky-2003BP-Korky-EasyFix-Flush-Valve-Repair-Kit?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImMfP8Za83gIVxoKzCh201gPKEAQYBCABEgItSPD_BwE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Share #42 Posted November 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, jsharr said: Needs to clean or replace the seat that the flapper seals onto. The old seat may have debris from old flapper valve on it. First try would be to clean the seat will with an abrasive pad. If that does not work, buy a flapper valve kit that comes with a new seat that you can glue on.https://www.supplyhouse.com/Korky-2003BP-Korky-EasyFix-Flush-Valve-Repair-Kit?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImMfP8Za83gIVxoKzCh201gPKEAQYBCABEgItSPD_BwE I was going to recommend the flusher fixer kit but you beat me to it. If you are tired of messing with it you can just replace the whole terlit and put the old one out on your deck and plant petunias in it. They make great planters. You can even take the lid off the tank and plant flowers in it too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share #43 Posted November 5, 2018 We found the part. Now to install it and get it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share #44 Posted November 5, 2018 4 hours ago, Longjohn said: Don’t go to either of those box stores. You need to go to a hardware store. Somewhere like a locally owned independent store or Ace hardware. I hardware store will help you find the part you need. We have an Ace. I was going to go there if I could not find the part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share #45 Posted November 5, 2018 Success!! I found this guy for $8 at Lowe's. First time install and it worked. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share #46 Posted November 5, 2018 This little guy did the trick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Share #47 Posted November 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Dottles said: This little guy did the trick. So now you are one up on the plumbing Gods. Be afraid, be very afraid. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share #48 Posted November 5, 2018 First time in almost 2 years that slow drip hasn't dripped. Too bad it wasn't to make some tasty brewed coffee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted November 5, 2018 Share #49 Posted November 5, 2018 I have a faucet with internals just like that. Even though I have replaced the cartridge several times, it always starts leaking again. Only on the cold side. More often than not, I'll try a new seal instead of a cartridge, first. I have even resorted to simply stretching the spring to increase pressure on the seal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizeye Posted November 5, 2018 Share #50 Posted November 5, 2018 On 11/3/2018 at 10:34 PM, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: I have the same problem, but of course the shutoff valves are shot after 32 years, so I need to get a friend who knows how to sweat copper joints over to do it, but I also need the other bathroom sink done, the toilet shutoffs replaced, plus for good measure the outside faucets replaced with frost free ones, but they need to slope to the outside and I don't now how to make that happen. Whew! Nothing is easy! At least we already did the kitchen sink, and the new faucet is marvelous! THIS I bought the new faucet and returned it when realized that the cutoff valves were frozen. QUICKLY STOPPED! Then the project expanded. Former owner replaced copper with Poly that needs to be replaced. Also noticed a small rust spot where drain connects to bowl. I have the PEX and crimping tools to do it, but may as well replace the vanity, top, toilet, floor and lighting. I will just watch it drip for a while. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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