Razors Edge ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Share #1 Posted November 5, 2018 I keep asking myself "WTF would GM bother with this sort of nonsense when they have so many car-related issues to deal with?" And they are stupid bike designs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Share #2 Posted November 5, 2018 That bottom picture looks like what happens when one of their cars runs over one of their bikes. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Share #3 Posted November 5, 2018 I'll wait for the SUV and pickup truck versions to come out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 5, 2018 Share #4 Posted November 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I keep asking myself... And with so much thought put into this I wonder, what is the n00b's answer to his self imposed question? Actually I couldn't care less but I enjoyed creating the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share #5 Posted November 5, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kzoo said: And with so much thought put into this I wonder, what is the n00b's answer to his self imposed question? Actually I couldn't care less but I enjoyed creating the post. I think it is because they are morans and this BS sort of nonsense demonstrates they are unfocused. They should just shitcan all the folks on this ebike team, since if those folks have time to be dicking around with dopey stuff like these bikes, then they aren't fully committed to working on cars & trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Share #6 Posted November 5, 2018 I'm going to submit Electro-Dynamic Cell as the division name. It would probably be shorted to EDCell. Actually that might work better for Ford. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 5, 2018 Share #7 Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: I think it is because they are morans and this BS sort of nonsense demonstrates they are unfocused. They should just shitcan all the folks on this ebike team, since if those folks have time to be dicking around with dopey stuff like these bikes, then they aren't fully committed to working on cars & trucks. Excuse me. I told you I really don't care. That means that I really don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share #8 Posted November 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Kzoo said: Excuse me. I told you I really don't care. That means that I really don't care. But that's your weird passive-aggressive way of showing love to n00bies. We figured that out long ago. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 5, 2018 Share #9 Posted November 5, 2018 weird passive-aggressive way - Yeah, I can be at way. showing love to n00bies - Never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted November 5, 2018 Share #10 Posted November 5, 2018 It's GM's EIT program. (Engineers In Training) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 5, 2018 Author Share #11 Posted November 5, 2018 56 minutes ago, donkpow said: It's GM's EIT program. (Engineers In Training) Trains are SOOOO 19th century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 6, 2018 Share #12 Posted November 6, 2018 I think it would be easy to do both cars and electric bikes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share #13 Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: I think it would be easy to do both cars and electric bikes. "Easy" is not what the goal of GM should be. I would think "profit" is about all you need to know. Yeah, it's fun to play in the lab and come up with some off the wall ideas, but if they're thinking their next "big" thing is a folding electric bike, then they are in worse shape than Ford! If GM had the #1 selling ebike, it would be a rounding error on their profit/loss column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 6, 2018 Share #14 Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Razors Edge said: "Easy" is not what the goal of GM should be. I would think "profit" is about all you need to know. Yeah, it's fun to play in the lab and come up with some off the wall ideas, but if they're thinking their next "big" thing is a folding electric bike, then they are in worse shape than Ford! If GM had the #1 selling ebike, it would be a rounding error on their profit/loss column. Maybe it supports profit from the image standpoint. "Look how green we are, we care" Blah blah blah. Big deal, it isn't like all automakers aren't in dozens of other businesses, you just hire folks to look after their turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share #15 Posted November 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Randomguy said: Maybe it supports profit from the image standpoint. "Look how green we are, we care" Blah blah blah. Big deal, it isn't like all automakers aren't in dozens of other businesses, you just hire folks to look after their turf. Sure, that's all well and good until you see the bikes. Nothing special. Nothing revolutionary. Maybe their grand plan is to toss a pair in every trunk in their EV line-up? That will boost their green cred for sure! I remember when VW sold their cars with a MTB bike as an option. VW was really good at engineering & building bikes and I still see some of them (although not as many of the Jettas they came with). I also see some GMC Denali bikes still in action. I bet @No One has one in his collection and can vouch for GM's engineering talent with regards to bike construction. Considering how popular the Denali truck is, GM might be onto something with this bike/vehicle pairing idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 6, 2018 Share #16 Posted November 6, 2018 "Remember you first bike..... No your first real E-bike......" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted November 6, 2018 Share #17 Posted November 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kzoo said: "Remember you first bike..... No your first real E-bike......" I always wonder why they didn't put some sunglasses on the guy in that ad. They almost seem like part of the uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted November 6, 2018 Share #18 Posted November 6, 2018 14 hours ago, Razors Edge said: "Easy" is not what the goal of GM should be. I would think "profit" is about all you need to know. Yeah, it's fun to play in the lab and come up with some off the wall ideas, but if they're thinking their next "big" thing is a folding electric bike, then they are in worse shape than Ford! If GM had the #1 selling ebike, it would be a rounding error on their profit/loss column. ...fleet average for CAFE standards. Think before you type, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share #19 Posted November 6, 2018 5 minutes ago, No One said: ...fleet average for CAFE standards. Think before you type, man. HA! Pure genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted November 6, 2018 Share #20 Posted November 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Razors Edge said: VW was really good at engineering & building bikes and I still see some of them (although not as many of the Jettas they came with). I also see some GMC Denali bikes still in action. I bet @No One has one in his collection and can vouch for GM's engineering talent with regards to bike construction ...neither one of these ever got donated to the co-op. So I am unable to express an informed opinion on design and construction standards. E-bikes made by car companies are a thing now: http://www.hispotion.com/8-hottest-bikes-made-car-manufacturers-23392 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share #21 Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, No One said: ...neither one of these ever got donated to the co-op. So I am unable to express an informed opinion on design and construction standards. E-bikes made by car companies are a thing now: http://www.hispotion.com/8-hottest-bikes-made-car-manufacturers-23392 McLaren Tarmac was a SWEET bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share #22 Posted November 6, 2018 And the Ferrari/Bianchi one is neat (but pales alongside the McLaren). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share #23 Posted November 6, 2018 And this one hides its pedigree: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
late Posted November 6, 2018 Share #24 Posted November 6, 2018 17 hours ago, Razors Edge said: Trains are SOOOO 19th century. Bullet trains are so 21st Century. Which is why we don't have 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 6, 2018 Share #25 Posted November 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Razors Edge said: and can vouch for GM's engineering talent with regards to bike construction GM is just gonna rebadge someone else's design, all they have to do is a little legwork and slap their name on it, it isn't diverting a tenth of a tenth of their resources from their shitty car company at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 6, 2018 Share #26 Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, No One said: ...fleet average for CAFE standards. Think before you type, man. I don't think so. Think before you type, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 6, 2018 Author Share #27 Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: GM is just gonna rebadge someone else's design So, using your noggin, who do you think did their design? Dahon? Tern? Brompton? Moulton? And is that a STEPS motor? Or a Bosch? Active? CX? Hard to tell from those photos, but I assume you can figure it out and share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 6, 2018 Share #28 Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: GM is just gonna rebadge someone else's design, It worked so well for them the last time. Does anyone remember the Geo line? Suzuki rebranding... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted November 6, 2018 Share #29 Posted November 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Kzoo said: I don't think so. Think before you type, man. ...I don't think you not thinking so is enough motivation for me to think before I type. Think before you type, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted November 6, 2018 Share #30 Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Kzoo said: It worked so well for them the last time. Does anyone remember the Geo line? Suzuki rebranding... Chevy’s Little pampers car is made by Daewoo/Deadwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 6, 2018 Share #31 Posted November 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Kzoo said: Does anyone remember the Geo line? Who cares? They are saving the environment now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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