GOAT

[Square Wheels]

 

[AirwickWithCheese]

Obviously your fever has returned. You know zilch, apologize now.  

 

[Dottleshead ★]

Pistol Pete was a gunner who couldn't play defense.

[AirwickWithCheese]

1 minute ago, Dottles said:

Pistol Pete was a gunner who couldn't play defense.

I guess the 87 men in the documentary were all eating Little Debbies and out of their mind.   

[ChrisL]

Great for sure but not my candidate for GOAT.  Actually I really don’t care for these types of titles.  How Is Bird better than  Bill Russell or Kareem or Jordan or even Magic..

Different era, different rules = different game.  IMHO you really can’t declare a GOAT.

[Dottleshead ★]

48 minutes ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

I guess the 87 men in the documentary were all eating Little Debbies and out of their mind.   

Yeah maybe I will watch it later. ?

[MickinMD ★]

I remember many experts in the 70's saying Maravich was the best ball handler they had ever seen - he's still the all-time college scoring leader despite freshmen not allowed to play varsity back then and no 3-point line. It was hard to judge his true ability because he played for awful teams most of the time and some said he was being fed the ball to create a sensation to draw crowds.

In any case, some of these GOAT documentaries are insane because you can name other players in the SAME era whose teams would have never traded their top player for the so-called GOAT.

A good example is Nolan Ryan, celebrated for his 5714 strikeouts and 324 wins.  But he also LOST 292 games and and WALKED the greatest number of batters in major league history: 2795.

Ryan was in his prime at the same time as Tom Seaver, who the Mets would NEVER have been stupid enough to trade for Ryan and Jim Palmer, who the Orioles would NEVER have been stupid enough to trade for Ryan. Early in their careers, it was said Palmer threw FASTER than Ryan, but then Palmer "learned how to pitch." There are at least a dozen other pitchers from the same era much better than Ryan.

But strikeouts are sensational so Ryan is sensationalized as a GOAT.

[AirwickWithCheese]

53 minutes ago, MickinMD said:

I remember many experts in the 70's saying Maravich was the best ball handler they had ever seen - he's still the all-time college scoring leader despite freshmen not allowed to play varsity back then and no 3-point line. It was hard to judge his true ability because he played for awful teams most of the time and some said he was being fed the ball to create a sensation to draw crowds.

In any case, some of these GOAT documentaries are insane because you can name other players in the SAME era whose teams would have never traded their top player for the so-called GOAT.

A good example is Nolan Ryan, celebrated for his 5714 strikeouts and 324 wins.  But he also LOST 292 games and and WALKED the greatest number of batters in major league history: 2795.

Ryan was in his prime at the same time as Tom Seaver, who the Mets would NEVER have been stupid enough to trade for Ryan and Jim Palmer, who the Orioles would NEVER have been stupid enough to trade for Ryan. Early in their careers, it was said Palmer threw FASTER than Ryan, but then Palmer "learned how to pitch." There are at least a dozen other pitchers from the same era much better than Ryan.

But strikeouts are sensational so Ryan is sensationalized as a GOAT.

Your poor baseball comparisons aside, Pete Maravich was the greatest basketball player of all-time. 

[Square Wheels]

14 hours ago, AirwickWithCheese said:

Obviously your fever has returned. You know zilch, apologize now. 

I'm sorry the Carolina's don't have any sports teams.  Boston has 38 championships.

[jsharr ★]