Wilbur ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Share #1 Posted March 20, 2019 Great guy, worked in HR and was a fun person to spend time with. About 7 years ago he went vegan to prevent illness. Died of cancer. Then I start thinking to myself, I have known 8 vegetarians or vegans that have diesdof stomach and bowel cancer. Hmm.. Have you vegetarian/vegan types investigated long term health effects? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Share #2 Posted March 20, 2019 Roundup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Share #3 Posted March 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Great guy, worked in HR and was a fun person to spend time with. About 7 years ago he went vegan to prevent illness. Died of cancer. Then I start thinking to myself, I have known 8 vegetarians or vegans that have diesdof stomach and bowel cancer. Hmm.. Have you vegetarian/vegan types investigated long term health effects? You should ask KrazyJames or the super-vegan SW. But cancer seems to have a multitude of causes. I've known dozens, maybe even a hundred folks who are non-vegan/vegetarians who have had cancer. I wonder if there is a link there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted March 20, 2019 My sampling is much smaller as I know few vegetarians, especially being they are mostly all dead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Share #5 Posted March 20, 2019 Both Roundup and the PCBs that I worked with for nine years have been linked to the type of leukemia. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Share #6 Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Longjohn said: Both Roundup and the PCBs that I worked with for nine years have been linked to the type of leukemia. When did you become a Vegan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Share #7 Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Wilbur said: My sampling is much smaller as I know few vegetarians, especially being they are mostly all dead. Excuse me, I shouldn’t have laughed at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Longjohn said: Both Roundup and the PCBs that I worked with for nine years have been linked to the type of leukemia. Roundup is nasty stuff. We have a light version up here so I have to import it from the US to get the real stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Share #9 Posted March 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: When did you become a Vegan? I’m not a vegan, I’m a Vulcan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted March 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Longjohn said: Excuse me, I shouldn’t have laughed at that. It is laughable because of the wording but yeah, sad thing. It is a radical diet. There is no such a thing as essential carbs. Protein and fats are essential though. I am wondering if there is something in that? I suspect so. Of course, Roundup may also be a big factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted March 20, 2019 Share #11 Posted March 20, 2019 Sorry for the loss of your friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Share #12 Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, KrAzY said: Sorry for the loss of your friend! Not about the friend. Its a rant. But good on you for saying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted March 20, 2019 Share #13 Posted March 20, 2019 Just now, Razors Edge said: Not about the friend. Its a rant. But good on you for saying. Vegetarian/Vegan... Doesn't matter.. dude is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 20, 2019 Share #14 Posted March 20, 2019 17 minutes ago, Wilbur said: My sampling is much smaller as I know few vegetarians, especially being they are mostly all dead. I have read all sorts of anecdotes from folks that have radically improved health once they begin eating meat again. Sorry about your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 20, 2019 Share #15 Posted March 20, 2019 1 minute ago, KrAzY said: Vegetarian/Vegan... Doesn't matter.. dude is dead. Yep. Respect usually starts and ends at not blaming the dead. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Share #16 Posted March 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Longjohn said: Roundup Could be related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Not about the friend. Its a rant. But good on you for saying. It's not a rant at all. It is a question about the diet and the long term health effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted March 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Yep. Respect usually starts and ends at not blaming the dead. Looking for another response to report? I had a lot of respect for the man. One of the few HR types that actually cared about employees. Questioning his choice isn't passing judgement, nor is it disrespectful so maybe just back away from threads you can't be civil in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share #19 Posted March 21, 2019 Now, how about some input from the non-trolls? Maybe some of those who are practicing vegetarians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Share #20 Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Looking for another response to report? Always. I like your stories. I don't get this level of fun from the normal folks I interact with daily, so getting a CAnadian spin on things is entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Share #21 Posted March 21, 2019 50 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Great guy, worked in HR and was a fun person to spend time with. About 7 years ago he went vegan to prevent illness. Died of cancer. Then I start thinking to myself, I have known 8 vegetarians or vegans that have diesdof stomach and bowel cancer. Hmm.. Have you vegetarian/vegan types investigated long term health effects? You really should take this to P&R. There's someone there who would just love to discuss it. He's lonely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted March 21, 2019 Share #22 Posted March 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Now, how about some input from the non-trolls? Maybe some of those who are practicing vegetarians. my wife has been a vegetarian since she was 8 years old and now she is 40. she's not had really any major health issues besides hyperthyroidism. I'm not really sure what the long-term effects were going to be or would be in a person that is a vegetarian or a vegan. Everybody's body is different and reacts different throughout their stages of life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share #23 Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: You really should take this to P&R. There's someone there who would just love to discuss it. He's lonely. P&R is the poison of the forum. Really, there is nothing P&R about the topic other than the zealots it seems to create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Share #24 Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Wilbur said: Roundup is nasty stuff. We have a light version up here so I have to import it from the US to get the real stuff. Sorry...roundup is not the good stuff. The good stuff is Crossbow. But they work on different plants. For blackberry bushes Crossbow is da bomb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parr8hed Posted March 21, 2019 Share #25 Posted March 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Longjohn said: Both Roundup and the PCBs that I worked with for nine years have been linked to the type of leukemia. Panama City Beach is known to cause leukemia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted March 21, 2019 Share #26 Posted March 21, 2019 10 hours ago, Wilbur said: Great guy, worked in HR and was a fun person to spend time with. About 7 years ago he went vegan to prevent illness. Died of cancer. Then I start thinking to myself, I have known 8 vegetarians or vegans that have diesdof stomach and bowel cancer. Hmm.. Have you vegetarian/vegan types investigated long term health effects? I know a bunch of people who developed lung cancer years after they quit smoking, so I guess these former smokers didn’t investigate the long term health effects of quitting. I also know a few smokers who believe their smoking is preventing cancer, that if they were to stop smoking, then their health would be at risk. These people are invariably on antipsychotic medications, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 21, 2019 Share #27 Posted March 21, 2019 Long term vegetarian diet changes human DNA raising risk of cancer and heart disease Save Populations who have had a primarily vegetarian diet for generations carried a genetic mutation which raised risk of cancer and heart disease CREDIT: CULTURA Sarah Knapton 29 MARCH 2016 • 10:15PM Follow Long term vegetarianism can lead to genetic mutations which raise the risk of heart disease and cancer, scientists have found. Populations who have had a primarily vegetarian diet for generations were found to be far more likely to carry DNA which makes them susceptible to inflammation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Share #28 Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: Long term vegetarian diet changes human DNA raising risk of cancer and heart disease Save Populations who have had a primarily vegetarian diet for generations carried a genetic mutation which raised risk of cancer and heart disease CREDIT: CULTURA Sarah Knapton 29 MARCH 2016 • 10:15PM Follow Long term vegetarianism can lead to genetic mutations which raise the risk of heart disease and cancer, scientists have found. Populations who have had a primarily vegetarian diet for generations were found to be far more likely to carry DNA which makes them susceptible to inflammation. James? Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share #29 Posted March 21, 2019 There are several studies that link vegetarian diet to cancer. There are few studies of long term carnivore diets. Keto, has been used since the 1920’s to treat childhood epilepsy and it has shown no ill effect on long term health. Now it is being studied to treat Alzheimer’s. My money is on intermittent fasting as the winner though. Science is proving that daily. I just find it odd, so many I have known to be vegetarians are also known to have been taken out by cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted March 21, 2019 Share #30 Posted March 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Wilbur said: There are several studies that link vegetarian diet to cancer. There are few studies of long term carnivore diets. Keto, has been used since the 1920’s to treat childhood epilepsy and it has shown no ill effect on long term health. Now it is being studied to treat Alzheimer’s. My money is on intermittent fasting as the winner though. Science is proving that daily. I just find it odd, so many I have known to be vegetarians are also known to have been taken out by cancer. It really depends on what you eat instead of the carbs. Some studies show increased risk of death after two years following a keto diet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 21, 2019 Share #31 Posted March 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, Wilbur said: There are several studies that link vegetarian diet to cancer. There are few studies of long term carnivore diets. Keto, has been used since the 1920’s to treat childhood epilepsy and it has shown no ill effect on long term health. Now it is being studied to treat Alzheimer’s. My money is on intermittent fasting as the winner though. Science is proving that daily. I just find it odd, so many I have known to be vegetarians are also known to have been taken out by cancer. I think we have a small wick that'll burn quick and we are all gonna die anyway. No sense going through it all and feeling unhealthy all the time from eating horrible things for you all the time, and there is no sense feeling miserable all the time because of some freaky no-fun diet all the time. The animals are practically begging you to eat them, they wouldn't run away if they didn't want you to chase them. The veggies just sit there and stare stupidly at you, because they know you'd rather have a big-ass medium rare beautiful hard-on inducing steak and some fucking beer instead of a pile of twigs and bark. You might want pie afterwards, who knows? You can't not have diet variation all the time, you know, because then you would be some extremist serial-killing nazi Jesus freak or other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr ★ Posted March 21, 2019 Share #32 Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: I think we have a small wick that'll burn quick and we are all gonna die anyway. No sense going through it all and feeling unhealthy all the time from eating horrible things for you all the time, and there is no sense feeling miserable all the time because of some freaky no-fun diet all the time. The animals are practically begging you to eat them, they wouldn't run away if they didn't want you to chase them. The veggies just sit there and stare stupidly at you, because they know you'd rather have a big-ass medium rare beautiful hard-on inducing steak and some fucking beer instead of a pile of twigs and bark. You might want pie afterwards, who knows? You can't not have diet variation all the time, you know, because then you would be some extremist serial-killing nazi Jesus freak or other. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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