jsharr ★ Posted March 25, 2019 Share #1 Posted March 25, 2019 to restore your confidence in the Boeing 737 Max? Will a simple "software upgrade" make you feel safe enough to fly on one again? Mandatory training for all air crews? Or do you feel safe on one now? Multiple sources saying the FAA close to approving the upgrade and that airlines are testing already. Those morans at Boeing should have spent some time here and they would have know naming anything Max is a bad idea. If they would have named it the 737 AWWC 8 this could have all been avoided as the planes would never have left good ol' terra firma to begin with. I would fly on a Boeing 737 @Kzoo 8 or @Wilbur 9 without hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 25, 2019 Share #2 Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, jsharr said: to restore your confidence in the Boeing 737 Max? Will a simple "software upgrade" make you feel safe enough to fly on one again? Mandatory training for all air crews? Or do you feel safe on one now? Multiple sources saying the FAA close to approving the upgrade and that airlines are testing already. Those morans at Boeing should have spent some time here and they would have know naming anything Max is a bad idea. If they would have named it the 737 AWWC 8 this could have all been avoided as the planes would never have left good ol' terra firma to begin with. I would fly on a Boeing 737 @Kzoo 8 or @Wilbur 9 without hesitation. I feel safe now with American or European crews of the larger carriers. Not sure I would feel safe with a budget or 3rd World/emerging world based airline & crew. Seems odds are pretty slim to die in a plane crash regardless of all the crazy azz dangers involved, so it's still safer to fly than drive, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I feel safe now with American or European crews of the larger carriers. Not sure I would feel safe with a budget or 3rd World/emerging world based airline & crew. Seems odds are pretty slim to die in a plane crash regardless of all the crazy azz dangers involved, so it's still safer to fly than drive, isn't it? Not if you are with @Randomguy's ex. She will light your car on fire if you change lanes without signalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 25, 2019 Share #4 Posted March 25, 2019 They should just randomly assign pilots to planes with no regard to what they would be flying. Passengers, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted March 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Randomguy said: They should just randomly assign pilots to planes with no regard to what they would be flying. Passengers, too. Line the captains up on one side to the airport and the passengers on the other and pick teams like in Jr. High gym class? shirts and skins? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted March 25, 2019 Share #6 Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, jsharr said: Line the captains up on one side to the airport and the passengers on the other and pick teams like in Jr. High gym class? shirts and skins? Yes. "You'll go wherever and in whatever airplane hoopty we pick out." Travel needs to be fun again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted March 25, 2019 Share #7 Posted March 25, 2019 Three hundred dollars. Cash. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr ★ Posted March 25, 2019 Share #8 Posted March 25, 2019 they need to put another x in the Max. I suggest at the end. Maxx that way we know the upgraded planes from the riff raff 3rd world planes plus the Portland area light rail is called Max. I don't want to get them mixed up. Go on the Max to BVT (Burlington Vermont) and end up in Beaverton, Or 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted March 25, 2019 Share #9 Posted March 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, jsharr said: I would fly on a Boeing 737 @Kzoo 8 or @Wilbur 9 without hesitation. Ain't no way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL ★ Posted March 25, 2019 Share #10 Posted March 25, 2019 Boeing needs to create a Mandatory Airworthy Directive version of that aircraft. The Boeing 737 MAD Max. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted March 25, 2019 Share #11 Posted March 25, 2019 I doesn't bother me at all due to the fact that Southwest has made over 12,000 flights with the MAX 8 with no issues at all and NASA's database has a total of two notices from commercial airlines pilots noting nose-dive problems that they instantly fixed by turning off the automatic controls. They said the system may have been confused by unusual weather. The fixes Boeing is supposed to unveil, if they haven't already, is icing on the cake. There are questions of how well trained the pilots were with the MAX 8's on the flights that went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted March 26, 2019 Share #12 Posted March 26, 2019 My confidence is pretty high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 26, 2019 Share #13 Posted March 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Scrapr said: they need to put another x in the Max. I suggest at the end. Maxx that way we know the upgraded planes from the riff raff 3rd world planes plus the Portland area light rail is called Max. I don't want to get them mixed up. Go on the Max to BVT (Burlington Vermont) and end up in Beaverton, Or Wizard idea. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted March 26, 2019 Share #14 Posted March 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Randomguy said: Yes. "You'll go wherever and in whatever airplane hoopty we pick out." Travel needs to be fun again. Dude, they have that ALREADY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdc2000 Posted March 26, 2019 Share #15 Posted March 26, 2019 https://www.zdnet.com/article/boeing-737-max-software-patches-can-only-do-so-much/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted March 26, 2019 Share #16 Posted March 26, 2019 ...drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted March 26, 2019 Share #17 Posted March 26, 2019 Software fix, maybe a logic fix that may require new hardware but most of all, differences training for the crews. Then I will get on one. Not with AWWC though, he crashed my dirigible.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted March 26, 2019 Share #18 Posted March 26, 2019 So it turns out that Boeing had presented a preliminary software fix back in January prior to the Ethiopian crash but the FAA hadn't approved it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
late Posted March 26, 2019 Share #19 Posted March 26, 2019 17 hours ago, jdc2000 said: https://www.zdnet.com/article/boeing-737-max-software-patches-can-only-do-so-much/ At the Battle of Trafalgar, the English were using purpose built artillery. The Spanish used artillery borrowed from the army. This made the Spanish guns a lot harder to handle when hot, and more dangerous. So their rate of was cut in half once they got hot. So while the Spanish had more guns, they couldn't match the Brits in an extended fight. I was reminded of that while I was reading that article. His point about building to fit the intended purpose is saying you need good design. We learned about the Spanish guns when historians borrowed techniques from underwater archeology when searching the wrecks of the battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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