Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Share #1 Posted April 24, 2019 What is a stoopid-ass idea for a fastener head that can be rounded almost as easily as a Phillips head? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted April 24, 2019 Shirley it wasn't invented by Peter Tork? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted April 24, 2019 The sumbitch is almost round to start with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr Posted April 24, 2019 Share #4 Posted April 24, 2019 I wonder if Outlaw screws will ever take off?https://www.popsci.com/article/diy/finally-strip-proof-screw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted April 24, 2019 This could cost me ~$500 for a new dishwasher! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted April 24, 2019 Share #6 Posted April 24, 2019 Find or make a flat blade screwdriver that fits the star. Try again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted April 24, 2019 5 minutes ago, jsharr said: I wonder if Outlaw screws will ever take off?https://www.popsci.com/article/diy/finally-strip-proof-screw Yes! I was just going to say that Allen is very good. Still almost round but very unlikely to slip oot, unlike most of the others. So a recessed Allen - very good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fret Buzz Posted April 24, 2019 Share #8 Posted April 24, 2019 6 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: This could cost me ~$500 for a new dishwasher! What are you trying to do? Extract it? That should be easy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, donkpow said: Find or make a flat blade screwdriver that fits the star. Try again. Thanks! You are the new biker billy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, Razors Edge said: What are you trying to do? Extract it? That should be easy enough. How so? It is pretty small diameter. Donkpow's idea sounds worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fret Buzz Posted April 24, 2019 Share #11 Posted April 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, jsharr said: I wonder if Outlaw screws will ever take off?https://www.popsci.com/article/diy/finally-strip-proof-screw Cool! I have deck screws that are like just one layer of that (hexagon), but yeah, a couple extra levels to spread out the torque would definitely help . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
late Posted April 24, 2019 Share #12 Posted April 24, 2019 A hundred years ago, England had 4 or 5 different standards. One car was notorious for using them all, and there was no way to find out which one you were looking at was which. Some were real easy to strip. Funny the crap that sticks with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fret Buzz Posted April 24, 2019 Share #13 Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: How so? It is pretty small diameter. Donkpow's idea sounds worth a try. Why wouldn't a traditional screw/bolt extractor work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: Why wouldn't a traditional screw/bolt extractor work? I've never had very good luck with them. But I guess I have to try. I think my toughest one though was for a broken off head, so it was aboot impossible to get a pilot hole drilled. But an intact torx head should provide good self centering and hopefully no pilot hole is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fret Buzz Posted April 24, 2019 Share #15 Posted April 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: I've never had very good luck with them. But I guess I have to try. I think my toughest one though was for a broken off head, so it was aboot impossible to get a pilot hole drilled. But an intact torx head should provide good self centering and hopefully no pilot hole is needed. I almost always need them to swap out my cycling cleats after a few years being ground down and filled with gravel. If I can do it, you can do it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Far Posted April 24, 2019 Share #16 Posted April 24, 2019 Do you have an impact screw driver. The little rat-a-tat-tats seem to help breaking stuff loose & driving stuff home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerrySTL Posted April 24, 2019 Share #17 Posted April 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, late said: A hundred years ago, England had 4 or 5 different standards. One car was notorious for using them all, and there was no way to find out which one you were looking at was which. Some were real easy to strip. Funny the crap that sticks with you. I have a couple of Whitworth spanners somewhere in my tool box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx Posted April 24, 2019 Share #18 Posted April 24, 2019 https://www.google.com/search?q=removing+stripped+torx&rlz=1CAMWDF_enUS803&oq=removing+stripped+torx&aqs=chrome..69i57.6772j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#kpvalbx=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #19 Posted April 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I almost always need them to swap out my cycling cleats after a few years being ground down and filled with gravel. If I can do it, you can do it! Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted April 24, 2019 Share #20 Posted April 24, 2019 Hexalobular bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #21 Posted April 24, 2019 1 minute ago, 2Far said: Do you have an impact screw driver. The little rat-a-tat-tats seem to help breaking stuff loose & driving stuff home. Yes. Use a Phillips blade or maybe a flat blade I guess? I guess the original torx won't do it but I could start with that. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted April 24, 2019 Share #22 Posted April 24, 2019 The one thing that pizzez me off with my Anthem is it’s a mix of Allen & torx. Why??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #23 Posted April 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, ChrisL said: The one thing that pizzez me off with my Anthem is it’s a mix of Allen & torx. Why??? Just to eff with you because they can! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Far Posted April 24, 2019 Share #24 Posted April 24, 2019 Hey Raffie, I found an internal schematic of your dishwasher: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 24, 2019 Share #25 Posted April 24, 2019 User error. I love Torq fasteners because they are tough to screw up if you have the right bit. The only time I've had issue it's been my bits fault. But for any type of screw head, these are the best thing going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx Posted April 24, 2019 Share #26 Posted April 24, 2019 8 minutes ago, Indy said: User error. I love Torq fasteners because they are tough to screw up if you have the right bit. The only time I've had issue it's been my bits fault. But for any type of screw head, these are the best thing going. That's a bit of a stretch. Saaaaaayyyyyy. Maybe that's an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted April 24, 2019 Share #27 Posted April 24, 2019 None of those ideas will work. You're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted April 24, 2019 Share #28 Posted April 24, 2019 That screw doesn't look stripped, are you sure you have the right bit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #29 Posted April 24, 2019 25 minutes ago, Further said: That screw doesn't look stripped, are you sure you have the right bit ? That was just example as I sat at the table outside Faarstone. Here is a picture of the subject one and it doesn’t really look rounded either! Actually I guess it does since now it looks like an Allen! i think the bit is right, it worked well on all the ones that weren’t overly tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #30 Posted April 24, 2019 Ok, as you might notice from the pic above, they are Allen heads! Dang it! These old eyes are getting weaker and weaker. The one is still rounded though. I got the rest of the tighter ones oot with a 7/64” = 2.778 mm. So I wonder what size the heads really are? I can’t seem to locate all my metric Allens at the moment. Must be 3 mm though. Or maybe 2.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx Posted April 24, 2019 Share #31 Posted April 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: Ok, as you might notice from the pic above, they are Allen heads! Dang it! These old eyes are getting weaker and weaker. The one is still rounded though. I got the rest of the tighter ones oot with a 7/64” = 2.778 mm. So I wonder what size the heads really are? I can’t seem to locate all my metric Allens at the moment. Must be 3 mm though. Or maybe 2.5. As an allen head, you can remove it by using a cheap allen wrench one size larger. just file or grind the wrench sides to a taper that just fits into the head of the screw. Drive it in with a hammer and unscrew. The wedge will tighten itself into whats left of the allen hole as you drive it in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx Posted April 24, 2019 Share #32 Posted April 24, 2019 In the meantime..........who posted correctly about user error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share #33 Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, maddmaxx said: In the meantime..........who posted correctly about user error. It can also be chalked up to slovenliness since I can’t find the metric Allens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx Posted April 24, 2019 Share #34 Posted April 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: It can also be chalked up to slovenliness since I can’t find the metric Allens. If it's stripped you can probably use sae allens to make a removal tool. If not, just get out the dremel, cut a slot in the head and remove it with a screwdriver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted April 24, 2019 Share #35 Posted April 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: It can also be chalked up to slovenliness since I can’t find the metric Allens. Check in the saddle bag on your bike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 25, 2019 Share #36 Posted April 25, 2019 Perfection... and Henry Ford denied you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie Posted April 25, 2019 Author Share #37 Posted April 25, 2019 Just now, wilbur said: Perfection... and Henry Ford denied you! I remember that from the Henry Ford biography. He was a cranky old man! To the Torx lawyers: Never mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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