Razors Edge ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #1 Posted May 30, 2019 ...or do you actually pay attention and try to update your knowledge and have your thoughts evolve over time? I get the impression it might be a personality trait than many lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted May 30, 2019 Share #2 Posted May 30, 2019 Pfffft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted May 30, 2019 Share #3 Posted May 30, 2019 ...why would I want to update my views when they are so obviously correct ? Ignorance is bliss. Are you trying to contribute to my unhappiness ? You should be ashamed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted May 30, 2019 Share #4 Posted May 30, 2019 13 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: ...or do you actually pay attention...? ...what's this thread about, anyway ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, Page Turner said: ...what's this thread about, anyway ? You and your hang ups! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted May 30, 2019 Share #6 Posted May 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: ...or do you actually pay attention and try to update your knowledge and have your thoughts evolve over time? I get the impression it might be a personality trait than many lack. Honestly? I try to assess what I am doing, and update my decision making upon available data. This causes mild problems at work when directives interfere with my one assessment of what’s proper. Although I enjoy enough freedom to do whatever I think is best at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted May 30, 2019 Share #7 Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: ...or do you actually pay attention and try to update your knowledge and have your thoughts evolve over time? I get the impression it might be a personality trait than many lack. Only when I'm forced to learn something different: *working with some people who are very different than me...meaning their core values are totally different than mine *learning something....so that I can keep a job/earn money. *moving and living in a completely different area of the country *being in a large family where people change and you must change to accommodate your love for them *speaking a 2nd language....because sometimes in some personal social situations I have no choice. You learn differently with each different 2nd, 3rd language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #8 Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Razors Edge said: ...or do you actually pay attention and try to update your knowledge and have your thoughts evolve over time? I get the impression it might be a personality trait than many lack. Like people who think Toronto is in the frozen North? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #9 Posted May 30, 2019 TLDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #10 Posted May 30, 2019 8 hours ago, Page Turner said: ...what's this thread about, anyway ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wilbur ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Popular Post Share #11 Posted May 30, 2019 I think. the first sign of having misconceptions and ignorance is the belief that everyone else has misconceptions and is ignorant. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, wilbur said: I think. the first sign of having misconceptions and ignorance is the belief that everyone else has misconceptions and is ignorant. It could be even deeper than that! The first sign of having misconceptions and ignorance is the belief that the first sign of having misconceptions and ignorance is the belief that everyone else has misconceptions and is ignorant! It may be like a Matryoshka doll with even deeper layers than I initially thought. I will have to ponder this possibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #13 Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: It could be even deeper than that! The first sign of having misconceptions and ignorance is the belief that the first sign of having misconceptions and ignorance is the belief that everyone else has misconceptions and is ignorant! It may be like a Matryoshka doll with even deeper layers than I initially thought. I will have to ponder this possibility. Ponder quietly noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted May 30, 2019 Share #14 Posted May 30, 2019 Yes, yes I am. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #15 Posted May 30, 2019 I'm pretty much stuck on the musings of jsharr and the shortcomings of Kzoo. That's pretty much all anyone around here needs, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted May 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, Dottie said: I'm pretty much stuck on the musings of jsharr and the shortcomings of Kzoo. That's pretty much all anyone around here needs, right? jsharr has abandoned us for greener pastures And kzoo is so chock-a-block with shortcomings that you may have fallen into a second full time job! Maybe it was good you didn't do the deck yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #17 Posted May 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Maybe it was good you didn't do the deck yourself. Maybe?!! Are you nuts? I don't want a divorce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted May 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dottie said: Maybe?!! Are you nuts? I don't want a divorce. It would give you better ride options. No "boss" to answer to anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #19 Posted May 30, 2019 Just now, Razors Edge said: It would give you better ride options. No "boss" to answer to anymore! Meh. Best $1500 I have ever spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #20 Posted May 30, 2019 I'm not proud of my ignorance, but I hate it when people won't admit they don't know something and will invent answers when they don't have a clue. I'd rather say "I don't know," than mislead someone. Every year I taught Gifted-and-Talented level courses in Physics and Chemistry, at the beginning of each course I would read this excerpt from W.H. Auden's "For the Time Being" to my students and ask them what it meant: The First Wise Man: To break down Her defenses and profit from the vision, With rack-and-screw I put Nature through a thorough inquisition. But She was so afraid that if I were disappointed, I should hurt Her more – so Her answers were disjointed. I did. I didn’t. I will. I won’t. Nature is, in fact, just as big a liar as we are. To discover how to be truthful now is the reason I follow this star. The point is, of course, that true science is NOT what we filter through our expectations and only lies if we lie. Most scientists are pretty good at adhering to the true scientific method and I'd like to think I'm more objective than subjective and that I don't fool myself too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #21 Posted May 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Razors Edge said: It could be even deeper than that! The first sign of having misconceptions and ignorance is the belief that the first sign of having misconceptions and ignorance is the belief that everyone else has misconceptions and is ignorant! It may be like a Matryoshka doll with even deeper layers than I initially thought. I will have to ponder this possibility. It may seem like an endless house of mirrors thing but in reality, it is more the "when you point your finger at others, there are three pointing back at you" kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted May 30, 2019 Share #22 Posted May 30, 2019 Sure! Why, just recently I held the misconception that a certain noob here had a clue. I have since updated my knowledge. the ignorance part of the question , yeah, don't know about that, don't really care, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted May 30, 2019 Share #23 Posted May 30, 2019 In 50 plus years of driving, I have never stopped and asked directions and I never will. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share #24 Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, wilbur said: It may seem like an endless house of mirrors thing but in reality, it is more the "when you point your finger at others, there are three pointing back at you" kind of thing. So stop pointing fingers and answer the OP! Jeebus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentonMakes Posted May 30, 2019 Share #25 Posted May 30, 2019 I hate all those ignorant people. I'd like to kick them all off the edge of the Earth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Share #26 Posted May 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: So stop pointing fingers and answer the OP! Jeebus. The op is loaded with bad grammar (ignorance) and misconceptions (personality trait). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizeye Posted May 30, 2019 Share #27 Posted May 30, 2019 I'm never wrong. Everyone else is and that is their problem. I'm just two edjumicated to be rong! ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share #28 Posted May 30, 2019 15 minutes ago, Tizeye said: I'm never wrong. Everyone else is and that is their problem. I'm just two edjumicated to be rong! ?? I can't tell if you are serious or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted May 30, 2019 Share #29 Posted May 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I can't tell if you are serious or not! Your misconception makes me think you are ignorant! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 30, 2019 Author Share #30 Posted May 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Road Runner said: Your misconception makes me think you are ignorant! This is Tizeye you're writing about! That guy will cut your throat if you look at him the wrong way, and I have no desire to get that done to me. Cold-blooded. Best to know where he really stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted May 30, 2019 Share #31 Posted May 30, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizeye Posted May 30, 2019 Share #32 Posted May 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Razors Edge said: This is Tizeye you're writing about! That guy will cut your throat if you look at him the wrong way, and I have no desire to get that done to me. Cold-blooded. Best to know where he really stands. ? Eye C U lernt yor lessin and lernt it well! Oh, and just got this a couple months ago (after TSA confiscated my old one had for decades.) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted May 30, 2019 Share #33 Posted May 30, 2019 I struggle to know where knowledge starts and ignorance ends, I often think I have found knowledge, but find it is a misconception 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted May 30, 2019 Share #34 Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Tizeye said: (after TSA confiscated my old one ...there used to be a warehouse where they sold off surplus federal property here for cheap. Ove in one corner were barrels and barrels of pocket knives and other multi-tools that TSA confiscated at the airport here. It was pretty hard to find anything good quality in there, but it was always fun to look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 31, 2019 Share #35 Posted May 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Page Turner said: ...there used to be a warehouse where they sold off surplus federal property here for cheap. Ove in one corner were barrels and barrels of pocket knives and other multi-tools that TSA confiscated at the airport here. It was pretty hard to find anything good quality in there, but it was always fun to look. There could have been some good stuff........... 771.5 million (771,556,886) passengers traveled securely through 440 federalized airports in 2017. That’s over 2 million travelers a day! A record setting 3,957 firearms were discovered in carry-on bags at checkpoints across the country, averaging 76.1 firearms per week. That’s an average of 10.8 firearms per day. 3,324 (84 percent) of the total firearms discovered were loaded. 1,378 (34.8 percent) of the total firearms discovered had a round chambered. The most firearms discovered in one-month – a whopping 29 - were discovered in August at the Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport (ATL). Firearms were intercepted at a total of 239 airports. There was a 16.7 percent (556 more) increase in firearm discoveries from 2016’s totalof 3,391. There is no statistic for how many really stupid people were identified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbike1939 Posted May 31, 2019 Share #36 Posted May 31, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 4:42 PM, MickinMD said: I'm not proud of my ignorance, but I hate it when people won't admit they don't know something and will invent answers when they don't have a clue. I'd rather say "I don't know," than mislead someone. Every year I taught Gifted-and-Talented level courses in Physics and Chemistry, at the beginning of each course I would read this excerpt from W.H. Auden's "For the Time Being" to my students and ask them what it meant: The First Wise Man: To break down Her defenses and profit from the vision, With rack-and-screw I put Nature through a thorough inquisition. But She was so afraid that if I were disappointed, I should hurt Her more – so Her answers were disjointed. I did. I didn’t. I will. I won’t. Nature is, in fact, just as big a liar as we are. To discover how to be truthful now is the reason I follow this star. The point is, of course, that true science is NOT what we filter through our expectations and only lies if we lie. Most scientists are pretty good at adhering to the true scientific method and I'd like to think I'm more objective than subjective and that I don't fool myself too often. Now the above is pretty ambitious as few if any are objective. I'm content being aware of my own subjectivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbike1939 Posted May 31, 2019 Share #37 Posted May 31, 2019 16 hours ago, Further said: I struggle to know where knowledge starts and ignorance ends, I often think I have found knowledge, but find it is a misconception It may be a continuum. The test of a good education may be to be aware of how much you don't know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 31, 2019 Share #38 Posted May 31, 2019 7 minutes ago, onbike1939 said: It may be a continuum. The test of a good education may be to be aware of how much you don't know. I believe it is a continuum. The definition of expert is "a person who learns more and more about less and less until eventually he know everything there is to know about nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Page Turner Posted May 31, 2019 Share #39 Posted May 31, 2019 ^^^I'm an expert !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 31, 2019 Share #40 Posted May 31, 2019 How can I be proud if I don't know or realize I am wrong?! Screw you Edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted May 31, 2019 Share #41 Posted May 31, 2019 A barbarian I work with likes old music, late 60's early 70's, big on Steppenwolf... So I mentioned you tube and Pandora, he rather proudly told me that "I don't do computers" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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