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3 minutes ago, jsharr said:

Hellcat or Demon?

Demon.  

That engine sounded throaty.  Ohhh ahhhh.

BTW, Lithia sucks.  They had a truck advertised on the web that they said was advertised incorrectly.  I think they call this FALSE ADVERTISING.  We called them about it, and they were like "Oh, that requires trade, and financing." However it was not listed like that.  Just a price.  Fuckers. Bait and switch.

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3 hours ago, Dirtyhip said:

Demon.  

That engine sounded throaty.  Ohhh ahhhh.

BTW, Lithia sucks.  They had a truck advertised on the web that they said was advertised incorrectly.  I think they call this FALSE ADVERTISING.  We called them about it, and they were like "Oh, that requires trade, and financing." However it was not listed like that.  Just a price.  Fuckers. Bait and switch.

I was getting ready to sign the papers on a new car one time that was advertised with free rustproofing. The salesmany said that was not included in the model I selected. I got up and walked out. When I got home the owner of the dealership was calling me to apologize for his moron salesman and told me that it was indeed free with the car I selected. I told him I didn’t want it anymore.

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I'm astounded that Americans are still buying trucks and cars with these huge engines (motors to you). I thought this had all changed what with the price of fuel going up and that there was now a trend towards more modestly sized vehicles. Few people over here would contemplate buying something over 2000cc and this even for towing purposes. I have a medium SUV  on order and it is 1300 cc but has a turbo and this is now common here.

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1 hour ago, onbike1939 said:

I'm astounded that Americans are still buying trucks and cars with these huge engines (motors to you). I thought this had all changed what with the price of fuel going up and that there was now a trend towards more modestly sized vehicles. Few people over here would contemplate buying something over 2000cc and this even for towing purposes. I have a medium SUV  on order and it is 1300 cc but has a turbo and this is now common here.

In speaking with dearie who had a farm, worked for an oil firm where one of his jobs was managing a national fleet of trucks, etc.....if a person has to drive through rough terrain, in heavy snowy and very cold winter areas in rural areas/mountain areas (huge parts of CAnada are more wilder and very long distances than UK)  or is working with a ton of heavy of tools/hauling, then it makes sense to have a truck.  Some people like it for camping gear.  

Otherwise, people who have trucks who don't do any of the above, don't need such a truck with huge engines... I see a lot of this in the city where I live,..way more than other big cities where I've lived in Canada.  There are a lot of urban pretenders of rough life where I live...in a city of 1.3 million people. 

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1 hour ago, onbike1939 said:

I'm astounded that Americans are still buying trucks and cars with these huge engines (motors to you). I thought this had all changed what with the price of fuel going up and that there was now a trend towards more modestly sized vehicles. Few people over here would contemplate buying something over 2000cc and this even for towing purposes. I have a medium SUV  on order and it is 1300 cc but has a turbo and this is now common here.

It's Merica you damn socialist and here we consume as much gasoline as we want.  Some of us even tune our trucks to make smoke.  Now take your prissy little motors and go mow the lawn with them.

 

 

Proud owner of a Toyota IM getting 40 mpg.

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1 minute ago, maddmaxx said:

It's Merica you damn socialist and here we consume as much gasoline as we want.  Some of us even tune our trucks to make smoke.  Now take your prissy little motors and go mow the lawn with them.

 

 

Proud owner of a Toyota IM getting 40 mpg.

? Yea, gas-guzzlers yahoos..  One notices it ...as a cyclist on the road in our part of Canada...the smoke belching out.

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3 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

Otherwise, people who have trucks who don't do any of the above, don't need such a truck with huge engines... I see a lot of this in the city where I live,..way more than other big cities where I've lived in Canada.  There are a lot of urban pretenders of rough life...in a city of 1.3 million people. 

The ones that crack me up are the ones that buy an expensive truck and install an expensive bed cover on it that they never remove. When I owned trucks I hauled firewood, coal, gravel, helped people move, whatever needed moved. When I raced dirt bikes I hauled them in the truck, no fancy loading ramps, just rode them up a 2X12 plank.

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15 minutes ago, Longjohn said:

The ones that crack me up are the ones that buy an expensive truck and install an expensive bed cover on it that they never remove. When I owned trucks I hauled firewood, coal, gravel, helped people move, whatever needed moved. When I raced dirt bikes I hauled them in the truck, no fancy loading ramps, just rode them up a 2X12 plank.

There are a couple of shiny new trucks parked inside our condo bldg. ....downtown. And I live in an area where there is good reliable municipal snow plowing.  I suppose one could haul bikes but some owners don't bike at all. There's nothing to haul re firewood...since it's gas fired fireplaces.. :)  A van might be more practical for urban use and occasional camping in the mountains with 2 bikes. 

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2 hours ago, onbike1939 said:

I'm astounded that Americans are still buying trucks and cars with these huge engines (motors to you). I thought this had all changed what with the price of fuel going up and that there was now a trend towards more modestly sized vehicles. Few people over here would contemplate buying something over 2000cc and this even for towing purposes. I have a medium SUV  on order and it is 1300 cc but has a turbo and this is now common here.

America is vast.  If you want to travel to pristine places one must own a vehicle.  For those of us that camp and go to the woods a lot, this means a truck.  We leave for weeks on end in the Summer and we haul a camper.  Do people not RV where you live?  Maybe they don't due to lack of space.  We live n a snowy mountain climate. We employ 4x4 often in the winter.

In regards to waste of gas, we cut use in other areas like commuting to and from work.  That is via bike.  Our home is small, so less resources there.  Also, our family only owns one vehicle. Almost all people I know own two, and sometimes three cars for a family.  

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Yes.....certainly in Scotland we do not have to travel long distances to find the wild places. I've towed a camper (caravan) and have owned a camping car but I prefer to cycle/camp myself though can't manage this now. I like when camping to keep it simple and go lightly loaded, but not to the extent of some friends of mine who are members of the Rough Stuff Fellowship who take their bikes up mountains, over gorges and sleep in caves on occasion.

Many families here have two or three cars as in the US and this is creating huge problems here as the roads are becoming too crowded for safe cycling.

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2 hours ago, onbike1939 said:

Yes.....certainly in Scotland we do not have to travel long distances to find the wild places. I've towed a camper (caravan) and have owned a camping car but I prefer to cycle/camp myself though can't manage this now. I like when camping to keep it simple and go lightly loaded, but not to the extent of some friends of mine who are members of the Rough Stuff Fellowship who take their bikes up mountains, over gorges and sleep in caves on occasion.

Many families here have two or three cars as in the US and this is creating huge problems here as the roads are becoming too crowded for safe cycling.

What are your feelings on Inverness?

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8 minutes ago, Dottie said:

What are your feelings on Inverness?

Ah.....it's a lovely city, small and beautifully situated and is expanding rapidly with more young people moving there attracted to the place. It's also the meeting place of those who live in the Highlands and they visit to stock up on provisions and shop.

My daughter lives near-bye in a small fishing village and lectures at Inverness College. It would take me around three hours to drive up there but it's not something I'd care to do in winter as it's easy to get snowbound.

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1 minute ago, onbike1939 said:

Ah.....it's a lovely city, small and beautifully situated and is expanding rapidly with more young people moving there attracted to the place. It's also the meeting place of those who live in the Highlands and they visit to stock up on provisions and shop.

My daughter lives near-bye in a small fishing village and lectures at Inverness College. It would take me around three hours to drive up there but it's not something I'd care to do in winter as it's easy to get snowbound.

I stayed there almost a week and rather enjoyed myself.  It's a great launching pad for tourists like me that want to get around and visit your wonderful country.  The gal at the hostel was a bit rough though.

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Just now, Dottie said:

I stayed there almost a week and rather enjoyed myself.  It's a great launching pad for tourists like me that want to get around and visit your wonderful country.  The gal at the hostel was a bit rough though.

Next time you should stay with my daughter as she runs an Airbnb and it's very cheap. You'd like her as she's a chip of the old block.......which is a shame really.

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Then again you could always stay at my place.....I mean it would mean an air mattress on the floor as mine is describes as a bedsit. That said, it's comfy and has a separate kitchen and bathroom and is perfect for my needs.....in a nice little county town too. The house itself is a Georgian Estate house and I love it.

I live in the old servants' quarters which are below street level at the front of the building. 

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6 hours ago, Longjohn said:

The ones that crack me up are the ones that buy an expensive truck and install an expensive bed cover on it that they never remove. When I owned trucks I hauled firewood, coal, gravel, helped people move, whatever needed moved. When I raced dirt bikes I hauled them in the truck, no fancy loading ramps, just rode them up a 2X12 plank.

Working at a landscape supply place that sells  mulch, soil, gravel, etc in bulk, I love the look of terror on the faces of the guys that bring their girls to show what their shinny new $75,000 pickups can do. And I pull up with a ten ton loader to drop a ton of rocks in their untarnished pickup beds.

"Wait wait!" as they're flailing their arms in the air. "Can you guys deliver this instead?" ;)

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9 minutes ago, team scooter said:

Working at a landscape supply place that sells  mulch, soil, gravel, etc in bulk, I love the look of terror on the faces of the guys that bring their girls to show what their shinny new $75,000 pickups can do. And I pull up with a ten ton loader to drop a ton of rocks in their untarnished pickup beds.

"Wait wait!" as they're flailing their arms in the air. "Can you guys deliver this instead?" ;)

That is why they have bed liners. Then there are the ones that call their SUVs, trucks.

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Well, we found a 2016 GMC Sierra for 25998.  It has 25K on the odo.  It ticks most of our checklist.  It is a quad cab and shorter bed, slightly.  I think I can handle that compromise by keeping some of our camping things in the backseat. 

This process is so annoying already.  I feel slightly fatigued from this already, but I am an athlete and I am going there with a full belly of food and lots of water on board.  They wanna tire me out.  Good luck, assholes.  My husband and I both know their game, and we hold the power.  We have cash and pristine credit.  

Our other option was a brand new Dodge for 31900.  We talked them down a bit, but I think there is more room to go lower.  

It really seems like trucks don't depreciate as quickly.  If you pay MSRP or close to it, your depreciation will hurt more.  

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I worked at a slag processing plant in the early 80's. They gave away what they called 'oversize', it was chunks of slag from about 6'' to 12'' with chunks of wood and dirt mixed in.

So this guy in a cherry 60's Chevy pickup pulls up, and says he wants some of the free stuff. I point out the pile to him and tell him he can pick through it and take what he wants. He asks if we can load it. I point at the loader, the bucket is 12 feet long, it has digging teeth a foot long on the edge of the bucket, it could run over his truck and not leave a speed bump behind.

He say's it's a tough old truck, go ahead.

When the bucket was poised, 4 feet above his truck, with 200 pound chunks of nasty about to come raining down he changed his mind.

Hr spent a couple hours picking through the pile and drove off with an intact truck, and a sore back 

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25 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said:

Well, we found a 2016 GMC Sierra for 25998.  It has 25K on the odo.  It ticks most of our checklist.  It is a quad cab and shorter bed, slightly.  I think I can handle that compromise by keeping some of our camping things in the backseat. 

This process is so annoying already.  I feel slightly fatigued from this already, but I am an athlete and I am going there with a full belly of food and lots of water on board.  They wanna tire me out.  Good luck, assholes.  My husband and I both know their game, and we hold the power.  We have cash and pristine credit.  

Our other option was a brand new Dodge for 31900.  We talked them down a bit, but I think there is more room to go lower.  

It really seems like trucks don't depreciate as quickly.  If you pay MSRP or close to it, your depreciation will hurt more.  

Don't forget, you still have to deal with taxes, dealer prep costs, titling fees, additional labor charges.

Get the price after taxes and hand the man the cash before he can start selling more.

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16 minutes ago, late said:

Friends don't let friends buy Chrysler products.

This.  They really fucking suck.  GMC trucks are solid, provided the tranny holds up (I really wanted to type tranny).  But I suspect Hip and her hubby take really good care of the cars they own so it should hold up.  

I'm a Ford guy but Ford trucks are really fucking expensive.  

Enjoy the new ride Hip!  I suggest you drive to Detroit and turf Charlie Fart's front lawn.  Avoid his pool.

Shu Fang 

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21 hours ago, Dirtyhip said:

Demon.  

That engine sounded throaty.  Ohhh ahhhh.

BTW, Lithia sucks.  They had a truck advertised on the web that they said was advertised incorrectly.  I think they call this FALSE ADVERTISING.  We called them about it, and they were like "Oh, that requires trade, and financing." However it was not listed like that.  Just a price.  Fuckers. Bait and switch.

I like the muscle car but dislike the bait and switch. I would have your attorney send a letter just for fun. 

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Lot of guys at work buying muscle cars, Vette's  Mustang's, Challengers...It's fun to ask "So that's a  600 hp pecker extension ? "

There is a guy, little fellow maybe 140 pounds, 5' 4" or so. Mellow, polite, help anybody do anything. He has a 1500 hp Challenger, has the dyno printouts,  holds a 1/4 mile record for standard shift cars. Built the car himself, rumor has that he has over 200,000 in it.

I asked him about it, he told me it was an itch he couldn't scratch.

He used to be an MMA fighter, but quit that.

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8 hours ago, team scooter said:

Working at a landscape supply place that sells  mulch, soil, gravel, etc in bulk, I love the look of terror on the faces of the guys that bring their girls to show what their shinny new $75,000 pickups can do. And I pull up with a ten ton loader to drop a ton of rocks in their untarnished pickup beds.

"Wait wait!" as they're flailing their arms in the air. "Can you guys deliver this instead?" ;)

Ya, I shovel the rocks into my truck by hand. Good exercise, and saves on overflow rocks trashing my truck! 

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8 hours ago, sheep_herder said:

This is when it is nice to have a trailer.

Yes but please get the right trailer for the job. Most homeowners don't understand tongue weight, GVW weights, what a yard of soil weighs, or buys the least expensive trailer at tractor supply. "Why spend extra money when I only intend to use it once or twice a year?" Then they want to load a ton and a half of material on a 995 pound capacity trailer, and get mad at me because they bought the wrong trailer. They wind up spending their day making several trips just to get the materials to their house.

One yard of mulch = 700 to 1000 pounds

One yard of dry soil = 2000 pounds

One yard of rock (without fines) = 2000 pounds

One yard of sand or gravel with fines = 2800+ pounds

One 2017 Miata = 2499 pounds wet. ;)

Congrats DH we need pics. :nodhead:

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1 hour ago, petitepedal said:

Yay for trucks..although that new tailgate on the Sierra is drool worthy.

I love the bumper on our new truck.  It has a built in step. 

Also, they repaired the slamming issue.  I would open the tailgate on our truck and it slams down.  This one goes slowly.  That is pretty cool.

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22 hours ago, maddmaxx said:

I knew you were a member of the Scottish underground.  I just knew it.

It's true that most of my neighbours are Hobbits.... and that they keep asking me to go on some sort of quest.......I tell them I'm old but they keep saying ...so was Gandalf. :huh:

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7 hours ago, Dirtyhip said:

I love the bumper on our new truck.  It has a built in step. 

Also, they repaired the slamming issue.  I would open the tailgate on our truck and it slams down.  This one goes slowly.  That is pretty cool.

Here's the trick to using that bumper step: when you have stepped up and are ready to pull your foot out, pull your foot BACK not UP. If you go straight up, you'll smack your metatarsals. And say really bad words.

You're welcome.

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24 minutes ago, smudge said:

Here's the trick to using that bumper step: when you have stepped up and are ready to pull your foot out, pull your foot BACK not UP. If you go straight up, you'll smack your metatarsals. And say really bad words.

You're welcome.

Thank you.  I will remember this.  

 

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