sheep_herder ★ Posted September 23, 2019 Share #1 Posted September 23, 2019 How do they call these recent deaths of athletes, etc. 'accidental', when they result from the use of narcotics, alcohol, etc.? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted September 23, 2019 Share #2 Posted September 23, 2019 Easy - they accidentally took to much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Road Runner Posted September 23, 2019 Popular Post Share #3 Posted September 23, 2019 This is the age of "no one is at fault". Except for the police, of course. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted September 23, 2019 Share #4 Posted September 23, 2019 As opposed to suicide where the death was an intentional act it’s an accidental death or by homicide where the act was committed by another. The deceased intended to take the drug but not a fatal dose. Probably only matters from an investigative and maybe insurance stand point.... Dead is dead. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 23, 2019 Share #5 Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, ChrisL said: As opposed to suicide where the death was an intentional act it’s an accidental death or by homicide where the act was committed by another. The deceased intended to take the drug but not a fatal dose. So maybe it should be officially listed as "unintentional death by drug overdose" instead of "accidental", which is what happens if a tree falls on your head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted September 23, 2019 Share #6 Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Road Runner said: So maybe it should be officially listed as "unintentional death by drug overdose" instead of "accidental", which is what happens if a tree falls on your head. II think the question really is, who is they? The only cause of death that matters is what the coroner indicates. Everything else is just empty words... “They” can say whatever they want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted September 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, ChrisL said: II think the question really is, who is they? The only cause of death that matters is what the coroner indicates. Everything else is just empty words... “They” can say whatever they want... All I see is what I read on the web or in the papers, so not sure who 'they' are, but assume they are quoting from the coroner's report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted September 23, 2019 Share #8 Posted September 23, 2019 I don't know what deaths you are commenting about, so can't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Far ★ Posted September 23, 2019 Share #9 Posted September 23, 2019 48 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Easy - they accidentally took to much. Yeah, this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted September 23, 2019 Share #10 Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Indy said: I don't know what deaths you are commenting about, so can't say. Well being an Angel fan Tyler Skaggs comes to mind but there may have been others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted September 23, 2019 Sad but interesting, if I had read this first, I would not have asked the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted September 23, 2019 Share #12 Posted September 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, ChrisL said: II think the question really is, who is they? The only cause of death that matters is what the coroner indicates. Everything else is just empty words... “They” can say whatever they want... Yep - my thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris... Posted September 23, 2019 Share #13 Posted September 23, 2019 In England they call it Death by misadventure 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted September 23, 2019 Share #14 Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Chris... said: In England they call it Death by misadventure I like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted September 23, 2019 Share #15 Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, wilbur said: I like that! It's exotic. One want's to know what sort of misadventure was involved such as another man's wife. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Runner Posted September 23, 2019 Share #16 Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Chris... said: In England they call it Death by misadventure When does an adventure become a misadventure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted September 24, 2019 Share #17 Posted September 24, 2019 4 hours ago, Road Runner said: When does an adventure become a misadventure? Well, ending up dead would be a milepost, probably the last one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted September 24, 2019 Share #18 Posted September 24, 2019 15 hours ago, sheep_herder said: All I see is what I read on the web or in the papers, so not sure who 'they' are, but assume they are quoting from the coroner's report. I would doubt many in the press or bloggers bother to read the coroner’s report. I think “likely drug overdose” is the conclusion reached at the scene and carried forward, unless something to contradict that gets announced after the autopsy. The “accidental” tag gets thrown in to differential from suicide. Three guys died this week near me, accidental fentanyl overdoses. Apparently they went to an apartment after a club, and someone cut into a bag of what was believed to be cocaine and offered “bumps” off the end of his knife. It wasn’t cocaine. Which has me wondering what happened to cutting drugs with an inert substance, if you’re trying to maximize profits? Why use something that is going to most likely kill your clients? Fentanyl is so freaking toxic, it’s not like you can make weak heroin seem better if you use just a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted September 24, 2019 Share #19 Posted September 24, 2019 who died? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share #20 Posted September 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, Airehead said: who died? Baseball player, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted September 24, 2019 Share #21 Posted September 24, 2019 ahh-- so in general not a specific person. Got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ltdskilz Posted September 25, 2019 Share #22 Posted September 25, 2019 On 9/23/2019 at 12:09 PM, sheep_herder said: Sad but interesting, if I had read this first, I would not have asked the question. That link was just a bit sobering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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