Popular Post onbike1939 Posted November 12, 2019 Popular Post Share #1 Posted November 12, 2019 For those who have reached this age......here is Edwin Morgan. At Eighty Push the boat out, compañeros, push the boat out, whatever the sea. Who says we cannot guide ourselves through the boiling reefs, black as they are, the enemy of us all makes sure of it! Mariners, keep good watch always for that last passage of blue water we have heard of and long to reach (no matter if we cannot, no matter!) in our eighty-year-old timbers leaky and patched as they are but sweet well seasoned with the scent of woods long perished, serviceable still in unarrested pungency of salt and blistering sunlight. Out, push it all out into the unknown! Unknown is best, it beckons best, like distant ships in mist, or bells clanging ruthless from stormy buoys. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris... Posted November 12, 2019 Share #2 Posted November 12, 2019 Ok Boomer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 12, 2019 Share #3 Posted November 12, 2019 10 hours ago, onbike1939 said: For those who have reached this age. I think you're it! Do we have any other octogenarians here? Plenty of septuagenarians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 12, 2019 Share #4 Posted November 12, 2019 He was an old man who fished alone in a skiff in the Gulf Stream and he had gone eighty-four days now without taking a fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 12, 2019 Share #5 Posted November 12, 2019 42 minutes ago, jsharr said: He was an old man who fished alone in a skiff in the Gulf Stream and he had gone eighty-four days now without taking a fish. I like my fish pretreated with petro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 12, 2019 Share #6 Posted November 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dottie said: I like my fish pretreated with petro. In the first forty days a boy had been with him. But after forty days without a fish the boy’s parents had told him that the old man was now definitely and finally salao, which is the worst form of unlucky, and the boy had gone at their orders in another boat which caught three good fish the first week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted November 12, 2019 Share #7 Posted November 12, 2019 "In the past, hardly anyone ever suspected Hemingway novels of symbolism. Then, in The Old Man and the Sea, people saw symbols--the old man stood for man's dignity, the big fish embodied nature, the sharks symbolized evil (or maybe just the critics). "No good book has ever been written that has in it symbols arrived at beforehand and stuck in," says Hemingway. "That kind of symbol sticks out like raisins in raisin bread. Raisin bread is all right, but plain bread is better." He opens two bottles of beer and continues: "I tried to make a real old man, a real boy, a real sea and a real fish and real sharks. But if I made them good and true enough they would mean many things. The hardest thing is to make something really true and sometimes truer than true." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 12, 2019 Share #8 Posted November 12, 2019 22 minutes ago, BuffJim said: "In the past, hardly anyone ever suspected Hemingway novels of symbolism. Then, in The Old Man and the Sea, people saw symbols--the old man stood for man's dignity, the big fish embodied nature, the sharks symbolized evil (or maybe just the critics). "No good book has ever been written that has in it symbols arrived at beforehand and stuck in," says Hemingway. "That kind of symbol sticks out like raisins in raisin bread. Raisin bread is all right, but plain bread is better." He opens two bottles of beer and continues: "I tried to make a real old man, a real boy, a real sea and a real fish and real sharks. But if I made them good and true enough they would mean many things. The hardest thing is to make something really true and sometimes truer than true." He no longer dreamed of storms, nor of women, nor of great occurrences, nor of great fish, nor fights, nor contests of strength, nor of his wife. He only dreamed of places now and of the lions on the beach. They played like young cats in the dusk and he loved them as he loved the boy. I have always wondered about the lions on the beach. I read books for the story they tell. I love Hemingway. For Whom the Bell Tolls, The Sun Also Rises and The Old Man in the Sea have all been read and reread by me, solely for the stories, but I wonder about the lions. I also wonder about the male / female relationships in many of his books, the impotence from war wounds and the infidelity. A bucket list item I fear I will never achieve is the retrace some of the journeys in his books, especially the fishing trip in The Sun Also Rises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 12, 2019 Share #9 Posted November 12, 2019 I want to say something cute but I'm firing blanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffJim Posted November 13, 2019 Share #10 Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, jsharr said: He no longer dreamed of storms, nor of women, nor of great occurrences, nor of great fish, nor fights, nor contests of strength, nor of his wife. He only dreamed of places now and of the lions on the beach. They played like young cats in the dusk and he loved them as he loved the boy. I have always wondered about the lions on the beach. I read books for the story they tell. I love Hemingway. For Whom the Bell Tolls, The Sun Also Rises and The Old Man in the Sea have all been read and reread by me, solely for the stories, but I wonder about the lions. I also wonder about the male / female relationships in many of his books, the impotence from war wounds and the infidelity. A bucket list item I fear I will never achieve is the retrace some of the journeys in his books, especially the fishing trip in The Sun Also Rises. Our high school English teacher challenged us to drink along with TSAR. She’d be fired for that nowadays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted November 13, 2019 Share #11 Posted November 13, 2019 Hemingway's short stories fascinated me, the Michigan set ones especially. Hemingway saw no allure in being old ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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