How much are you going to miss Don Cherry?

[maddmaxx ★]

1 minute ago, Dottie said:

Take note.  Avatar worthy.

[Dottleshead ★]

Nova bene

[shootingstar]

7 hours ago, wilbur said:

This isn't even a good circular discussion guys.  You aren't going to change my mind nor prove me wrong.  One's opinion will lie directly on ones political leanings.  In my opinion, what Don Cherry said was not racist.  "You people" implies immigrants, not races.   His observation, is absolutely correct.  The Legion is obviously trying to do damage control where none is required.  I expect this will backfire in a big way.   I agree with Don Cherry, 100% in this case.  Immigrants are not wearing them. Demographics are changing but that doesn't make it right.  Just more visible. 

If the intent is to tarnish me on the forum, I am good with that too.  Fire away.  

 

?  There were plenty of Canadians photographed and interviewed on tv. over the past few days.  some recent immigrants who wore the poppy.  They were stopped by broadcaster in parking lot,etc.

And there ARE enough Canadians who are also ungrateful and not understanding the sacrifices of veterans. Some don't wear poppies either. 

One sided support.  I'm not sure why it is believed immigrants in general, are ungrateful. 

Anyway, I need to study my notes to teach a bunch of employees...how to find records for evidence to support their business decisions. and actions.

In a way it is good to highlight in the press, the past backgrounds of 2nd generation, 3rd generation Canadians who just happen to look non Anglo-Saxon, "immigrant" because they wear a hijab, turban, etc. of their opinion, their family members in war..   And also highlight how different population segments of Canada has changed but still ….root for Canada. 

 

[Wilbur ★]

20 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

?  There were plenty of Canadians photographed and interviewed on tv. over the past few days.  some recent immigrants who wore the poppy.  They were stopped by broadcaster in parking lot,etc.

And there ARE enough Canadians who are also ungrateful and not understanding the sacrifices of veterans. Some don't wear poppies either. 

One sided support.  I'm not sure why it is believed immigrants in general, are ungrateful. 

Anyway, I need to study my notes to teach a bunch of employees...how to find records for evidence to support their business decisions. and actions.

In a way it is good to highlight in the press, the past backgrounds of 2nd generation, 3rd generation Canadians who just happen to look non Anglo-Saxon, "immigrant" because they wear a hijab, turban, etc. of their opinion, their family members in war..   And also highlight how different population segments of Canada has changed but still ….root for Canada. 

 

You watch CBC, don't you?

Canada is gone.  We are a post-national state with no core identity.

[The_Karen_Cooper_Incident]

 

Some Canadians are Canadian.

Mudkipz

[shootingstar]

46 minutes ago, wilbur said:

You watch CBC, don't you?

Canada is gone.  We are a post-national state with no core identity.

We sure have an identity....but it's broader than 50 yrs. ago, and many in sych more one could ever dream of.  Most would want a peaceful country, a good public health care system, good educational system, etc. Not sure why you feel so disconnected.

?I appreciate free speech. But the reality, Cherry said his remarks in his capacity as a tv broadcaster, in a paid job which is under the rules/policy/direction of his employer.  He didn't say his remarks as "free speech" on the sidewalk as private citizen.  Sorry.  On the job.  So the Sportsnet, as the employer chose to ask him to leave.  It's that simple.  

CBC...sure there's National Post also.  

I will be honest....in terms of hard core research for paid jobs....I have provided research papers, article from:  Statistics CAnada, government, Ispos, CBC.....I would never be providing resources that didn't have journalists who have written for the Toronto Star, Calgary Herald, National Post...in addition, to Canadian National Broadcasting Corp.  They have a long, long archive over 80 yrs. and broad record  ….kept for the entire public to quote, argue forever..    The rule of thumb never provide articles that will disappear off the Internet with no visible mailing address for contact, no list of references resources/footnotes, etc.

Some of the journalists who write for CBC in last 5 years for Calgary CBC site....used to write for Calgary Herald which now has shrunken. Calgary Herald is under the same publishing arm as Financial Post. I like Andrew Coyne who is interviewed on CBC, writes for National Post.  And Chantal Hebert who gives intelligent analysis in English with her Quebec accent...as you know she is fluently bilingual.

I see the CBC writers.....outside City Hall interviewing politicians …..  tv crews daily.... in the hallway. Scott Dippel, Rob Ferguson, etc. 

At this moment the journalists are digging deep on the news on budget cuts in Alberta....

 

[Wilbur ★]

35 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

We sure have an identity....but it's broader than 50 yrs. ago, and many in sych more one could ever dream of.  Most would want a peaceful country, a good public health care system, good educational system, etc. Not sure why you feel so disconnected.

I don't feel disconnected at all, quite the opposite.  The words I used above were stated by your Prime Minister.  He stated we had no core identity and were the worlds first post-national state.   Funny CBC never plays that anymore.   Trust me, the media whitewashes files as well.  

I liked the National Post, when it was run by Conrad Black.  I worked for them.  When the paper went to Izzy Asper and CanWest Global, they became, just another Liberal rag.  

I look at the MSM and see nothing but Alinskyites. 

[shootingstar]

For those who don't know Conrad Black, served jail time for siphoning tons of money from his newspapers..

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/conrad-black-sentenced-to-78-months-in-jail-1.646267

 

[Wilbur ★]

5 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

For those who don't know Conrad Black, served jail time for siphoning tons of money from his newspapers..

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/conrad-black-sentenced-to-78-months-in-jail-1.646267

 

That is absolute bullshit.  Get your facts straight.  Again- CBC is propaganda, not news.  Even YouTube has the State propaganda label on CBC videos.  

Conrad Black was charged with several counts and found not guilty on all but one.  He removed a box of personal items from his Toronto office after the prosecutor ordered him not to remove anything.  He was found guilty of one count of obstruction.  Served most of a 5 year sentence and was pardoned by President Trump. 

Black has several law suits and is restoring his wealth one victory at a time in the courts.  Where is the CBC story on that.  You are such a lying shill, intentional or not. 

[shootingstar]

28 minutes ago, wilbur said:

That is absolute bullshit.  Get your facts straight.  Again- CBC is propaganda, not news.  Even YouTube has the State propaganda label on CBC videos.  

Conrad Black was charged with several counts and found not guilty on all but one.  He removed a box of personal items from his Toronto office after the prosecutor ordered him not to remove anything.  He was found guilty of one count of obstruction.  Served most of a 5 year sentence and was pardoned by President Trump. 

Black has several law suits and is restoring his wealth one victory at a time in the courts.  Where is the CBC story on that.  You are such a lying shill, intentional or not. 

Are you ok?  Pardoned by Trump? That's nice...and not meaningful anymore to a lot of Canadians up here.  He probably still loves his wife and daughter. People can type on his name...I'm sure the court case is on the open Internet at the state court site where court judge heard the case.  

HIs firm also hired tax lawyers....rich do that.

I worked for the firm that his firm hired...  Yea the world of corporate rich and obscure tax planning structures..nearly tread the fine line of legality or not.  

 

[Wilbur ★]

32 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

Are you ok?  Pardoned by Trump? That's nice...and not meaningful anymore to a lot of Canadians up here.

HIs firm also hired tax lawyers....rich do that.

I worked for the firm that his firm hired...  

Yes, calling bullshit out doesn't make one not 'ok'. 

Trump is the democratically elected president of the USA. The president has the authority to pardon people they feel were inappropriately convicted. 

Hiring tax attorney's is not a crime nor does it imply guilt of anything.  It is just a part of tax planning. 

Rather than just throwing these weird comments, formulate a case and we can discuss it.   Say what you want to say.  Just try to keep it relative so we aren't jumping all over the place. 

 

[shootingstar]

1 hour ago, wilbur said:

Yes, calling bullshit out doesn't make one not 'ok'. 

Trump is the democratically elected president of the USA. The president has the authority to pardon people they feel were inappropriately convicted. 

Hiring tax attorney's is not a crime nor does it imply guilt of anything.  It is just a part of tax planning. 

Rather than just throwing these weird comments, formulate a case and we can discuss it.   Say what you want to say.  Just try to keep it relative so we aren't jumping all over the place. 

 

of course hiring a tax lawyer is fine....all I'm saying the rich win a lot...corporations win a lot in tax avoidance because they can afford to hire tax lawyers to interpret arcane technical tax laws. https://business.financialpost.com/legal-post/conrad-black-wins-32-3-million-loan-case-against-the-cra  A 2019 news item.  I didn't choose CBC just to cater to you, Wilbur. That's all. An experienced tax lawyer gives his opinion.

A brother in law was a securities and tax lawyer for 20 yrs....for the Ontario Securities Commission  --On the other side of Deloitte, PwC, KPMG, the big giants.

Anyway Cherry's comments and past has gotten away too often and now his employer, sports.net/Rogers media have the right to pull him off.  They are the employer. It's not free speech...a person is paid and work according to what the employer wants in behaviour and speech.  It makes great entertainment for kids because Cherry is simple, bombastic and fun.  

So the rumor is if Brian Burke will be offered the job to replace Cherry.

 

 

[Wilbur ★]

 

7 hours ago, shootingstar said:

Anyway Cherry's comments and past has gotten away too often and now his employer, sports.net/Rogers media have the right to pull him off.  They are the employer. It's not free speech...a person is paid and work according to what the employer wants in behaviour and speech.  It makes great entertainment for kids because Cherry is simple, bombastic and fun.  

I haven't argued the legalities here.  I know that while on the job, you represent your employer.  I have fired many people over the years for related acts.  It does have to be defined in an employment contract though.  

Brian Burke would be a disaster.  Canadians don't want to hear hockey from a bloated, bloviate, American.  Besides, what did Burke accomplish with Toronto.  You need some success to be credible.  But that is just hockey talk.  I think they will cancel Coaches Corner.  They should anyways. 

[Prophet Zacharia]

20 minutes ago, wilbur said:

 I think they will cancel Coaches Corner.  They should anyways. 

Yeah, I think they will just go with panel discussion between each period now.

[Mr. Silly]

9 hours ago, shootingstar said:

For those who don't know Conrad Black, served jail time for siphoning tons of money from his newspapers..

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/conrad-black-sentenced-to-78-months-in-jail-1.646267

Is he the same Conrad Black who denounced his Canadian citizenship? 

Granted, I'm just an stupid American but denouncing one's citizenship seems far more egregious than choosing not to wear a poppy pin.

I like this picture from the clip Couch posted.

Why isn't Ron MacLean allowed to have same "free speech" the guy in the Leafs sweater is advocating?

[Wilbur ★]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Silly said:

Is he the same Conrad Black who denounced his Canadian citizenship? 

Granted, I'm just an stupid American but denouncing one's citizenship seems far more egregious than choosing not to wear a poppy pin.

I like this picture from the clip Couch posted.

Why isn't Ron MacLean allowed to have same "free speech" the guy in the Leafs sweater is advocating?

The citizenship thing was the result of a pissing contest between Black and Cretien.  There are a few Liberal dual citizenship UK/Canadain with peerage and Cretien set out to block Black's peerage by stating he could not hold both citizenships.  Black opted for peerage.   Ultimately, that backfired as he could not go to a country club prison as those are only available to US/Canadian citizens.   In later interviews, Black said he would do the same though.   Sometimes you pay a price for conviction. 

[Wilbur ★]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Silly said:

Why isn't Ron MacLean allowed to have same "free speech" the guy in the Leafs sweater is advocating?

He is.   Considering Grapes saved MacLean's ass in prior years though' raises eyebrows as to the kind of friend he is.  He will die on his own.   A decent straight man to Cherry but that is all. 

[Mr. Silly]

7 minutes ago, wilbur said:

He is.   Considering Grapes saved MacLean's ass in prior years though' raises eyebrows as to the kind of friend he is.  He will die on his own.   A decent straight man to Cherry but that is all. 

I don't think that is the point the guy calling MacLean a "Trader" was making.

[Mr. Silly]

14 minutes ago, wilbur said:

The citizenship thing was the result of a pissing contest between Black and Cretien.  There are a few Liberal dual citizenship UK/Canadain with peerage and Cretien set out to block Black's peerage by stating he could not hold both citizenships.  Black opted for peerage.   Ultimately, that backfired as he could not go to a country club prison as those are only available to US/Canadian citizens.   In later interviews, Black said he would do the same though.   Sometimes you pay a price for conviction. 

So having a personal title was more important that his affiliation to Canada.  Real patriot that Conrad Black is.

[Wilbur ★]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Silly said:

So having a personal title was more important that his affiliation to Canada.  Real patriot that Conrad Black is.

It was more important to his wife.  Less so to him.  When friends with business and political elite egging you to accept peerage, I guess it is easy to overlook the worlds backwoods that Canada was at the time. 

I think it quite normal to question one's level of patriotism from time to time.  If someone is using political power to block an appointment of honour when precedence proves you in the right, your mind may be easily swayed.  Mine would. 

[Wilbur ★]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Silly said:

I don't think that is the point the guy calling MacLean a "Trader" was making.

That is correct but I was answering the question you asked.  

[Wilbur ★]

 

[Wilbur ★]

Boy, this would be entertaining... 

 

[Wilbur ★]

For the Cherry haters.

 

[Prophet Zacharia]

26 minutes ago, wilbur said:

For the Cherry haters.

 

Why “for the haters”? I think it’s the essence of Don. As he says, you can call him a bigot.

 I already posted this, BTW. 

[Wilbur ★]

No wonder the haters went after Don, look how often he used "You people"!  Racist, bigot white privileged bastard.

 

[Prophet Zacharia]

2 hours ago, Don Cherry said:

look how often he used "You people"!

If we’re honest, we’ll recognize that the phrase that people took offense to in Poppygate was “you people who moved here”. He’s clearly expressing his opinion about immigrants not wearing poppies.

[Wilbur ★]

17 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said:

If we’re honest, we’ll recognize that the phrase that people took offense to in Poppygate was “you people who moved here”. He’s clearly expressing his opinion about immigrants not wearing poppies.

Did he say immigrant?  Know, I am just looking at the legal aspect. 

[shootingstar]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/programs/metromorning/jesse-wente-says-don-cherry-s-phony-scorn-has-finally-cost-him-his-platform-1.5356373

The interviewee talks about the corporate sponsors who tolerated Cherry's bombastic offensive comments for years because it drew in viewers. Good for advertising products. 

Then the shoe dropped.

So hockey broadcasting continues....with same enthusiasm somewhere else. Cherry's old news.  https://www.omnitv.ca/bc/pa/shows/hockey-night-in-canada-punjabi-edition/ 

I still think it's a great idea he and my 85 yr. Mom meet to have a broken conversation.  They are the same age...they ARE both equally tough.  My mother when she is angry and exhausted will cuss in Chinese.  Each person is equally committed to Canada.  Yes mother is.  She never returned to China @ 23 yrs. old, boarding plane to meet her future husband in Toronto.  She and father each bid good-bye to China for forever.

So Cherry can go to heck for my mother and father who never wore a poppy. But raised 6 children all university educated, all gainfully employed and all well-rounded Canadians.

 

 

[Wilbur ★]

Why would we want to subject Don to that?  Besides, we don't allow bigamy in Canada. 

[shootingstar]

4 minutes ago, Don Cherry said:

Why would we want to subject Don to that? 

Poor Don. ?

[Wilbur ★]

1 minute ago, shootingstar said:

Poor Don. ?

Luba is a good looking old gal.  

[Wilbur ★]

4 hours ago, shootingstar said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/programs/metromorning/jesse-wente-says-don-cherry-s-phony-scorn-has-finally-cost-him-his-platform-1.5356373

The interviewee talks about the corporate sponsors who tolerated Cherry's bombastic offensive comments for years because it drew in viewers. Good for advertising products. 

Then the shoe dropped.

So hockey broadcasting continues....with same enthusiasm somewhere else. Cherry's old news.  https://www.omnitv.ca/bc/pa/shows/hockey-night-in-canada-punjabi-edition/ 

I still think it's a great idea he and my 85 yr. Mom meet to have a broken conversation.  They are the same age...they ARE both equally tough.  My mother when she is angry and exhausted will cuss in Chinese.  Each person is equally committed to Canada.  Yes mother is.  She never returned to China @ 23 yrs. old, boarding plane to meet her future husband in Toronto.  She and father each bid good-bye to China for forever.

So Cherry can go to heck for my mother and father who never wore a poppy. But raised 6 children all university educated, all gainfully employed and all well-rounded Canadians.

 

 

Should I point out the obvious in that he is a self-described right winger.  CBC and all their socialist troglodites are loving his dismissal.   Now, it is just a leftist smear campaign.  This too will collapse.   I don't know there are many non-panjabi that will be watching omni.  Really, you need to drop the poor little china immigrant crap.  You are the most privileged race in Canada now. My family came here just one or two generations before as were equally disliked immigrants who were split up across Canada because of indentured servitude that was in vogue at the time.  Then they suffered through a depression,fought in two world wars for the nation and still managed to get themselves and their offspring educated. The first generation lived out their days in their new nation nearly penniless.  If you aren't aboriginal, you came from somewhere. 

[Wilbur ★]

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-shame-on-you-sportsnet-don-cherry-deserved-much-much-better

[shootingstar]

9 hours ago, Don Cherry said:

Should I point out the obvious in that he is a self-described right winger.  CBC and all their socialist troglodites are loving his dismissal.   Now, it is just a leftist smear campaign.  This too will collapse.   I don't know there are many non-panjabi that will be watching omni.  Really, you need to drop the poor little china immigrant crap.  You are the most privileged race in Canada now. My family came here just one or two generations before as were equally disliked immigrants who were split up across Canada because of indentured servitude that was in vogue at the time.  Then they suffered through a depression,fought in two world wars for the nation and still managed to get themselves and their offspring educated. The first generation lived out their days in their new nation nearly penniless.  If you aren't aboriginal, you came from somewhere. 

Sure Cherry was always open about his preferences.

 Hockey Night in CAnada in Punjabi is to grow a bigger tv audience for a popular sport in another language.

From Statistics Canada, the federal authority that does the census:  https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/as-sa/98-314-x/98-314-x2011001-eng.cfm#a2   Some data as of 2011 (old, since we had census in 2016).  I included these 3 big cities since I've, worked, etc. for a number of years...

Of course I'm privileged being born in Canada....and worked for it...learning English even born in Canada...etc. I've never forgotten that.  (How could I forget when translating for my mother as a child?)   It has been immigrant parents that have borne the sacrifices for myself and siblings. They escaped a Communist revolution. Mao was starving his people in 1950's.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine   

Toronto: 1.8 million speak an immigrant language most often at home

The census counted roughly 1.8 million persons who reported speaking an immigrant language most often at home in Toronto. In fact, this population is two and a half times larger than the corresponding population in Vancouver, the second-ranking CMA in this regard. Among those speaking an immigrant language at home in Toronto, about one-third spoke one of five languages: Cantonese (8.8%), Punjabi (8.0%), Chinese (n.o.s.)^{Footnote 5} (7.0%), Urdu (5.9%) and Tamil (5.7%).

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Vancouver: Punjabi is the most frequently reported immigrant home language

In Vancouver, 712,000 people reported speaking an immigrant language most often at home. Of these, nearly 18% spoke Punjabi, Cantonese, Chinese (n.o.s.) or Mandarin had the next highest proportions of people who spoke an immigrant language most often at home. These three languages accounted for 40% of the population of Vancouver having an immigrant language as a main home language. Thus, Vancouver stands out from the other major CMAs in that the four leading immigrant home languages accounted for more than half (57.7%) of the overall population speaking an immigrant language most often at home.

Calgary: Punjabi and Tagalog are the top immigrant home languages

In the Calgary CMA, 228,000 people reported speaking an immigrant language most often at home. Of these, Punjabi (27,000 persons) and Tagalog (nearly 24,000) were the languages most often reported, followed by Chinese (n.o.s.) at nearly 21,000.

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More updated info. below from 2016 census:  https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2016/as-sa/98-200-x/2016010/98-200-x2016010-eng.cfm

Guess Canada in the eyes of some folks, is falling apart. Or we just can't produce enough babies in Canada.

Would I note my mother language in a census?  Well, I can't speak Cantonese...the dialect I know is a subset of Cantonese.  But I say yes.  People ask me for directions in Cantonese/Toishanesse.  I do provide it.  I can order in lousy Chinese in restaurants and stores. I speak to mother and relatives in the language...shamefully horrible but they don't care. They are understanding.

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Strong increase in immigrant languages

The increase in other languages in Canada is mostly due to the increase in immigrant languages, international migration being the main driver of population growth in the country.

The number of people who reported an immigrant mother tongue rose from 6,838,715 in 2011 to 7,749,115 in 2016. This is an increase of 910,400 people or 13.3%.

In 2016, 22 immigrant mother tongues each had a population of more than 100,000 people. This is the same number of languages as in 2011.^{Note 4} Combined, these 22 mother tongues comprised more than 6.3 million people in 2016, or 81.5% of the population with an immigrant mother tongue. In 2011, the 22 languages with each more than 100,000 people totalled close to 5.6 million people.

Table 1
Immigrant mother tongues with more than 100,000 people in 2016, Canada
Table summary
This table displays the results of Immigrant mother tongues with more than 100. The information is grouped by Language (appearing as row headers), Rank
in 2016, Rank
in 2011, Change, 2011, 2016, Difference and Change from 2011 to 2016, calculated using number and percent units of measure (appearing as column headers).

Language	Rank in 2016	Rank in 2011	Change	2011	2016	Difference	Change from 2011 to 2016
				number			percent
MandarinTable 1 Note 1	1	9	+8	255,160	610,835	355,675	139.4
CantoneseTable 1 Note 1	2	6	+4	388,935	594,030	205,095	52.7
Punjabi	3	1	-2	459,990	543,495	83,505	18.2
Tagalog (Pilipino, Filipino)	4	7	+3	384,050	510,420	126,370	32.9
Spanish	5	3	-2	439,110	495,090	55,980	12.7
Arabic	6	8	+2	374,410	486,525	112,115	29.9
Italian	7	4	-3	437,725	407,455	-30,270	-6.9
German	8	5	-3	430,055	404,745	-25,310	-5.9
Urdu	9	12	+3	194,095	243,090	48,995	25.2
Portuguese	10	10	0	225,530	237,000	11,470	5.1
Persian (Farsi)	11	13	+2	177,015	225,155	48,140	27.2
Russian	12	14	+2	169,950	195,915	25,965	15.3
Polish	13	11	-2	201,240	191,775	-9,465	-4.7
Vietnamese	14	15	+1	153,355	166,830	13,475	8.8
Korean	15	17	+2	142,880	160,455	17,575	12.3
Tamil	16	16	0	143,395	157,120	13,725	9.6
Hindi	17	21	+4	106,305	133,925	27,620	26.0
Gujarati	18	22	+4	101,310	122,460	21,150	20.9
Greek	19	19	0	117,890	116,460	-1,430	-1.2
Ukrainian	20	18	-2	120,265	110,580	-9,685	-8.1
Dutch	21	20	-1	116,280	104,505	-11,775	-10.1
Romanian	22	23	+1	93,135	100,610	7,475	8.0
Note 1 The increase of Mandarin and Cantonese is due in large part to changes to data collection. New instructions in the electronic questionnaire, asking respondents to indicate the Chinese language spoken at home or that was first learned as a child (mother tongue), as applicable, resulted in a sharp increase in certain Chinese languages, particularly Mandarin and Cantonese. Return to note 1 referrer Source: Statistics Canada, Census of Population, 2011 and 2016.

 

 

 

[Wilbur ★]

32 minutes ago, shootingstar said:

Sure Cherry was always open about his preferences.

 Hockey Night in CAnada in Punjabi is to grow a bigger tv audience for a popular sport in another language.

From Statistics Canada, the federal authority that does the census:  https://www12.statcan.gc.ca/census-recensement/2011/as-sa/98-314-x/98-314-x2011001-eng.cfm#a2   Some data as of 2011 (old, since we had census in 2016).  I included these 3 big cities since I've, worked, etc. for a number of years...

Of course I'm privileged being born in Canada....and worked for it...learning English even born in Canada...etc. I've never forgotten that.  (How could I forget when translating for my mother as a child?)   It has been immigrant parents that have borne the sacrifices for myself and siblings. They escaped a Communist revolution. Mao was starving his people in 1950's.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine   

Toronto: 1.8 million speak an immigrant language most often at home

The census counted roughly 1.8 million persons who reported speaking an immigrant language most often at home in Toronto. In fact, this population is two and a half times larger than the corresponding population in Vancouver, the second-ranking CMA in this regard. Among those speaking an immigrant language at home in Toronto, about one-third spoke one of five languages: Cantonese (8.8%), Punjabi (8.0%), Chinese (n.o.s.)^{Footnote 5} (7.0%), Urdu (5.9%) and Tamil (5.7%).

……………………...………..

Vancouver: Punjabi is the most frequently reported immigrant home language

In Vancouver, 712,000 people reported speaking an immigrant language most often at home. Of these, nearly 18% spoke Punjabi, Cantonese, Chinese (n.o.s.) or Mandarin had the next highest proportions of people who spoke an immigrant language most often at home. These three languages accounted for 40% of the population of Vancouver having an immigrant language as a main home language. Thus, Vancouver stands out from the other major CMAs in that the four leading immigrant home languages accounted for more than half (57.7%) of the overall population speaking an immigrant language most often at home.

Calgary: Punjabi and Tagalog are the top immigrant home languages

In the Calgary CMA, 228,000 people reported speaking an immigrant language most often at home. Of these, Punjabi (27,000 persons) and Tagalog (nearly 24,000) were the languages most often reported, followed by Chinese (n.o.s.) at nearly 21,000.

 

 

 

The first generation migrants, regardless of language spoken, always take the brunt in both acceptance and monetarily.  Immigrating almost always sacrifices a generation.   Sometimes the only advantage is a safe and secure life.   Yes, Punjabi is a large segment of society.  They immigrated in large numbers before Asians.