Razors Edge ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #251 Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: Sure, Snyder can sell the redskins and own the new team. A guy at work said they were chanting "Sell the team! Sell the team!" in the stands at the Skins game this weekend It brings me so much joy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #252 Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Sure, Snyder can sell the redskins and own the new team. If Jerry Jones buys all the NFL teams, he could win a Superbowl "His Way" each year. I like your idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #253 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: Read the bold facts above. I don’t need to argue, because actual facts are actual facts. You need to argue to justify your revisionist take on events. The Browns won, you see, because they played better. You just are coming up with silliness for some unknown purpose. Also, you stink like somebody threw up on a diaper and you rubbed that over your underwear. There's reasons that 3 people got games off and Rudolph didn't. And it's not white privilege because the person responsible for on field activity is a man of color. Facts is facts and the suspensions play that out. #justkeeparguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #254 Posted November 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Kzoo said: There's reasons that 3 people got games off and Rudolph didn't. And it's not white privilege because the person responsible for on field activity is a man of color. Facts is facts and the suspensions play that out. #justkeeparguing So if I tried to rip your helmet off and possibly accidentally shoved a cleated foot into your nut sack, would you give me a hug emoji? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #255 Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, jsharr said: So if I tried to rip your helmet off and possibly accidentally shoved a cleated foot into your nut sack, would you give me a hug emoji? After you took me to the ground and tried to lift me up by my facemask... sure. What are friends for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #256 Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, Kzoo said: After you took me to the ground and tried to lift me up by my facemask... sure. What are friends for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #257 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, jsharr said: I like it because some of us are right and some of us are very very very wrong. Don't be so hard on yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share #258 Posted November 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Sadly, this may overtake the greatest thread of all time. Never. We would need 18 more Kzoo's and at least 4 more RGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #259 Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Don Cherry said: Don't be so hard on yourself! Being right is very very very hard on me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #260 Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, jsharr said: Being right is very very very hard on me. How would you know? Give being a right a try.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Parr8hed Posted November 18, 2019 Popular Post Share #261 Posted November 18, 2019 On 11/16/2019 at 1:02 PM, KrAzY said: Only if charges are pressed against that player by the butt hurt player.. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #262 Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, Don Cherry said: How would you know? Give being a right a try.. Okay, Poppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #263 Posted November 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, jsharr said: So if I tried to rip your helmet off and possibly accidentally shoved a cleated foot into your nut sack, would you give me a hug emoji? Are you a white guy? Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #264 Posted November 18, 2019 Just now, Razors Edge said: Are you a white guy? Probably. I am a mutt. I know I have some Native American blood and some English blood and some Texican blood in me. But yeah, I would have to say I am pretty dang white. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #265 Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, jsharr said: Okay, Poppy. Please allow me to say this another way... " There's reasons that 3 people got games off and Rudolph didn't. And it's not white privilege because the person responsible for on field activity is a man of color. Facts is facts and the suspensions play that out." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share #266 Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: POTD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #267 Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Dottie said: POTD Can you touch your toes? I can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #268 Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Dottie said: POTD Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #269 Posted November 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Parr8hed said: 8 minutes ago, Dottie said: POTD 6 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Can you touch your toes? I can't 6 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Agreed Well, this explains why Brady tried so hard to cover up the whole thing about his balls being deflated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 18, 2019 Share #270 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Kzoo said: After you took me to the ground and tried to lift me up by my facemask... sure. What are friends for. No, that was BEFORE Garrett pulled the helmet off. Geez, you gotta pay attention if you are going to blather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #271 Posted November 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Randomguy said: No, that was BEFORE Garrett pulled the helmet off. Geez, you gotta pay attention if you are going to blather. Blah, blah, blah, you have bad eyes. Hand grabs facemask - foot goes to the groin. Hand continues to pull head up by the facemask until head pops out of helmet. Let me say this another way... "There's reasons that 3 people got games off and Rudolph didn't. And it's not white privilege because the person responsible for on field activity is a man of color. Facts is facts and the suspensions play that out." #keeparguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 18, 2019 Share #272 Posted November 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Kzoo said: Please allow me to say this another way... " There's reasons that 3 people got games off and Rudolph didn't. And it's not white privilege because the person responsible for on field activity is a man of color. Facts is facts and the suspensions play that out." You are the only one saying race stuff, you bigot! Anyway, I think Rudolph got away with one in the rush to judgement by the league and a direct personal favor to the Steelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 18, 2019 Share #273 Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Blah, blah, blah, you have bad eyes. Hand grabs facemask - foot goes to the groin. Hand continues to pull head up by the facemask until head pops out of helmet. Let me say this another way... "There's reasons that 3 people got games off and Rudolph didn't. And it's not white privilege because the person responsible for on field activity is a man of color. Facts is facts and the suspensions play that out." #keeparguing I respect the fact that you aren’t letting your lack of research or knowledge get in the way of an argument, plus your lack of belief in the linearity of time not slowing you down is also admirable. That said, you are WRONG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #274 Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Randomguy said: You are the only one saying race stuff, you bigot! Anyway, I think Rudolph got away with one in the rush to judgement by the league and a direct personal favor to the Steelers. Again you are wrong. I had more hope for you but with the spread of your PRI I can understand. I am NOT the only one and if you would actually read some comments here you would know that (but the terminal PRI....) And to say that Rudolph and the Steelers got favored treatment because of a rush to judgement and personal favors - you are just pulling more Cleveland brown stuff out of your PRI infested butthole. Pittsburgh's All-Pro OL got 3 games (as he should have). Rudolph got none for a reason. And part of that reason is because the NFL office watched the video with their brains engaged vs. infected with PRI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #275 Posted November 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Kzoo said: Blah, blah, blah, you have bad eyes. Hand grabs facemask - foot goes to the groin. Hand continues to pull head up by the facemask until head pops out of helmet. Let me say this another way... "There's reasons that 3 people got games off and Rudolph didn't. And it's not white privilege because the person responsible for on field activity is a man of color. Facts is facts and the suspensions play that out." #keeparguing Do you agree that Rudolph tried to take Garretts helmet off? If so, when on your yellow and black timeline does this take place. If not, what sort of boat do you use to navigate da nile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #276 Posted November 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, jsharr said: Do you agree that Rudolph tried to take Garretts helmet off? If so, when on your yellow and black timeline does this take place. If not, what sort of boat do you use to navigate da nile? I agree that he grabbed the back of Garrett's helmet after being unnecessarily driven to the ground. I'm guessing (yes only a guess) that based on the video showing Garrett had his facemask buried in Rudolph's chest, it was the only thing to grab as Garrett was unnecessarily wrestling with him. Did he then twist the helmet - yes. And for that he is getting fined by the league office as he should. Cleveland played a good game. They bested the Steelers in every category. Unfortunately for them they also won the contest for most games suspended. I haven't heard about Pouncey arguing his 3 games but I figured it would get reduced to 2 after review - maybe, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #277 Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kzoo said: I agree that he grabbed the back of Garrett's helmet after being unnecessarily driven to the ground. I'm guessing (yes only a guess) that based on the video showing Garrett had his facemask buried in Rudolph's chest, it was the only thing to grab as Garrett was unnecessarily wrestling with him. Did he then twist the helmet - yes. And for that he is getting fined by the league office as he should. Cleveland played a good game. They bested the Steelers in every category. Unfortunately for them they also won the contest for most games suspended. I haven't heard about Pouncey arguing his 3 games but I figured it would get reduced to 2 after review - maybe, maybe not. Yet when he was interviewed, he said he was sacked. He did not say driven to ground, or late or any of that, he said he was sacked. Weird.https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/bell/2019/11/15/myles-garrett-deserved-suspension-nfl-should-also-discipline-mason-rudolph/4205825002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #278 Posted November 18, 2019 Will there be resolution on this by the next go around? It's not like these two awful teams won't play again this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #279 Posted November 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, jsharr said: Yet when he was interviewed, he said he was sacked. He did not say driven to ground, or late or any of that, he said he was sacked. Weird.https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/columnist/bell/2019/11/15/myles-garrett-deserved-suspension-nfl-should-also-discipline-mason-rudolph/4205825002/ You and I and him know the definition of a sack and he was not sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #280 Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Kzoo said: You and I and him know the definition of a sack and he was not sacked. He was sacked multiple times. He was in the grasp when he released that pass but no way was it a late hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #281 Posted November 18, 2019 1 minute ago, jsharr said: He was sacked multiple times. He was in the grasp when he released that pass but no way was it a late hit. And Steelers linemen are standing there with their arms in the air looking at the ref saying "Where's the damn flag" for unnecessary roughness - then the action starts. What color are your Myles Garrett glasses? Garrett was a criminal and is a criminal and never would have been accepted into the prestigious Texas A&M ROTC program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share #282 Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Kzoo said: And Steelers linemen are standing there with their arms in the air looking at the ref saying "Where's the damn flag" for unnecessary roughness - then the action starts. What color are your Myles Garrett glasses? Garrett was a criminal and is a criminal and never would have been accepted into the prestigious Texas A&M ROTC program. It would appear Mason Rudolph is a white collar criminal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted November 18, 2019 Share #283 Posted November 18, 2019 I can't believe this thread is still going on. What is the consensus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #284 Posted November 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Kzoo said: And Steelers linemen are standing there with their arms in the air looking at the ref saying "Where's the damn flag" for unnecessary roughness - then the action starts. What color are your Myles Garrett glasses? Garrett was a criminal and is a criminal and never would have been accepted into the prestigious Texas A&M ROTC program. I have said Garrett deserves a long suspsension, huge fines, possible ban from the NFL and legal action. I am not denying what he did was wrong and indefensible but for Rudolph to act innocent or to act like he had no part is silly. Oh, and Garrett was not in the Corps of Cadets or ROTC as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #285 Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr. Silly said: I can't believe this thread is still going on. What is the consensus? You are correct, this thread is still going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Share #286 Posted November 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mr. Silly said: I can't believe this thread is still going on. What is the consensus? I'd say the consensus is that the 1) the thread sucks and 2) kzoo is a dolt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #287 Posted November 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, jsharr said: I have said Garrett deserves a long suspsension, huge fines, possible ban from the NFL and legal action. I am not denying what he did was wrong and indefensible but for Rudolph to act innocent or to act like he had no part is silly. Oh, and Garrett was not in the Corps of Cadets or ROTC as far as I know. I never said he was innocent. I said his actions were understandable and fineable (which he was). RG is the one who is all PRI butt hurt over it. He and one other person in the country are trying to defend Garrett's actions. Personally I think the indefinite suspension is correct. It keeps him out for the year and he can easily talk his way back in in April. Nor was is that worthy of an outright ban from the league. I also don't like legal action in sports cases. That hockey thing might be a bit different. A guy charging the mound(sans bat), 2 guys under the rim in the NBA going at it - keep it out of the legal system. I understand that on the street a lot of this stuff turns into aggravated assault charges. Pro sports doesn't need to go there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 18, 2019 Share #288 Posted November 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: I'd say the consensus is that the 1) the thread sucks and 2) kzoo is a dolt. Seeing that Dottie started this crap of a thread, you are right on one of the 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 18, 2019 Author Share #289 Posted November 18, 2019 Little did I know Rudolph was going to turn it into a glorious one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted November 18, 2019 Share #290 Posted November 18, 2019 Oh I see Rudolf is at practice. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 19, 2019 Share #291 Posted November 19, 2019 On 11/17/2019 at 9:09 PM, Randomguy said: I watched again in a forensic manner, and I can tell you for certain what happens FACTUALLY. First, play goes off, Garrett hits Rudolph AS the pass is thrown. There is no way for Garrett to know the ball is away. NO LATE HIT Second, Garrett pulls Rudolph down on top of himself! NO PERSONAL FOUL, NO ROUGHING THE PASSER Third, as Rudolph rolls to the side of Garrett, the first thing that happens is RUDOLPH ATTEMPTS TO PULL GARRETT'S HELMET OFF Failing this, as Garrett is attempting to get up, RUDOLPH KICKS GARRETT IN THE GROIN Garrett, presumably taking some level of annoyance with the happenings SUCCEEDS IN PULLING RUDOLPH'S HELMET OFF Separated but still fully triggered, RUDOLPH CHARGES GARRETT He has to go the long way around the physical separation of number 66 for Pittsburgh, DeCastro GARRETT HITS RUDOLPH WITH HIS OWN HELMET Some Pittsburgh players, presumably to prevent the quarterback from continuing to embarrass himself by falling on a banana peel or something KNOCK GARRETT TO THE GROUND POUNCEY BECOMES PUNCHY AND KICKY I can't fault him for this, as he couldn't realize what a dumbshit his quarteback was (besides all the intereceptions, that is) and thinks be is protecting something akin to a quarterback OGUNJOBI PUSHES RUDOLPH HARD ENOUGH TO FALL DOWN This is just hilarious. Watch the video and if you think I am somehow wrong on this exact timeline, SHOW me I am wrong on ANY part of this. Again, I paused the video and noted what happened EXACTLY sequentially, the stuff in bold is FACT. For Kzoo's reference, so he can craft apologies for logical fallacies and lapses in awareness. I hope Garrett gets off so next time, he can take Rudolph's head with the helmet if the dummy charges him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share #292 Posted November 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Mr. Silly said: I can't believe this thread is still going on. What is the consensus? 8 hours ago, Razors Edge said: I'd say the consensus is that the 1) the thread sucks and 2) kzoo is a dolt. Almost. Both the Browns and Steelers suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 19, 2019 Share #293 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Dottie said: Almost. Both the Browns and Steelers suck. I think the Browns are on the rise, but for next year (they need Garrett plus more depth). I was ready to count the Steelers out, but they had seemed to have turn the tide (until the Browns game). Now they don't appear to have a realistic QB situation, and the probably ought to sign Kaepernick or however you spell his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share #294 Posted November 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Randomguy said: I think the Browns are on the rise, but for next year (they need Garrett plus more depth). I was ready to count the Steelers out, but they had seemed to have turn the tide (until the Browns game). Now they don't appear to have a realistic QB situation, and the probably ought to sign Kaepernick or however you spell his name. Honestly, the Browns have moments where they are as good as anybody. But they fold like a deck of cards at the slightest adversity. It's like they're mentally fragile if not challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 19, 2019 Share #295 Posted November 19, 2019 20 minutes ago, Dottie said: Honestly, the Browns have moments where they are as good as anybody. But they fold like a deck of cards at the slightest adversity. It's like they're mentally fragile if not challenged. I don't think external adversity does them in. They did beat the Ravens, Steelers, and Bills, so they beat at least mediocre teams, and the Ravens and Bills will probably make the playoffs. I do think both the Ravens and Bills are a bit overrated, for what it is worth. They did play without a secondary for a while, but it has been stupid mistakes and penalties that have cost them a couple of games otherwise. They need to click offensively, but they haven't done that consistently, except for Chubb. Chubb has been pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share #296 Posted November 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: I don't think external adversity does them in. They did beat the Ravens, Steelers, and Bills, so they beat at least mediocre teams, and the Ravens and Bills will probably make the playoffs. I do think both the Ravens and Bills are a bit overrated, for what it is worth. They did play without a secondary for a while, but it has been stupid mistakes and penalties that have cost them a couple of games otherwise. They need to click offensively, but they haven't done that consistently, except for Chubb. Chubb has been pretty awesome. I dunno. They jumped out on the Seahawks first half and then they wilted. Agreed about Chubbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted November 19, 2019 Share #297 Posted November 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Dottie said: Honestly, the Browns have moments where they are as good as anybody. But they fold like a deck of cards at the slightest adversity. It's like they're mentally fragile if not challenged. That’s the sign of a talented group that’s still young. In their case they also have a terrible coach. With a decent coach and a little experience they have great potential. And yes the truth hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted November 19, 2019 Share #298 Posted November 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Kzoo said: That’s the sign of a talented group that’s still young. In their case they also have a terrible coach. With a decent coach and a little experience they have great potential. And yes the truth hurts. Dammit, you cannot incite people this way! Now I am all triggered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsharr ★ Posted November 19, 2019 Share #299 Posted November 19, 2019 Mason Rudolph to be fined $35,000 for his role in the brawl.https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/11/17/mason-rudolph-fined-steelers-browns-fight-myles-garrett?utm_campaign=sportsillustrated&xid=socialflow_facebook_si&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR0bfn35Aw5s_D41pBeToOUqRjMxcvXI4DmFAQuIl_DeUt4uuaNLvxgKxDY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted November 19, 2019 Author Share #300 Posted November 19, 2019 Game suspensions are really fines + off the field hurt. I would have tripled the fine but allowed him to play for on the field hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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