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Tizeye

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What ever happened to QUIET! in the library. If I had wanted this atmosphere, I would had gone to Buffalo Wild Wings during a sports event.

No, I don't want to know about your church experience and some guy who was really praying for like 3 hours...and your pseudo whisper is really annoying.

Nor do I need to know about a concert coming up that another couple are discussing. Likewise the guy whose normal voice is SHOUT as he asks the librarian if crime mysteries are in a separate section. The only crime is the volume of his voice and there is no mystery about it.

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5 minutes ago, jsharr said:

If you were @Dottles you would not mind the noise as you would want to bang the librarian.

It is not that type of noise. But now that you mention it, perhaps I need to add it to the cacophony of sound. It might be an improvement. Will have to work on it.

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1 hour ago, Razors Edge said:

What are people doing in a library these days that requires "quiet"?  I'm generally only there to pick up books or a quick browse.  Otherwise, I mostly see folks using the computers. Maybe some kids doing homework?

I needed to log onto my computer and do a few things while I was out and about. So this was convenient, but I weeded to concentrate in my work. The library was better than swinging by Starbucks or other places with free wifi. 

The bad part is that they must have something in their network setup that blocks VPN access and even some streaming of some real time stock charting software. But on one side was  a Walmart Neighborhood Market and Planet Fitness on the other side , picking up full strength signal from both and had no problem connecting to my VPN on the Walmart signal.

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4 hours ago, Tizeye said:

But on one side was  a Walmart Neighborhood Market and Planet Fitness on the other side , picking up full strength signal from both and had no problem connecting to my VPN on the Walmart signal.

The reason Walmart is so successful is that they do what they do very well.

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On 2/5/2020 at 12:45 PM, Tizeye said:

What ever happened to QUIET! in the library. If I had wanted this atmosphere, I would had gone to Buffalo Wild Wings during a sports event.

No, I don't want to know about your church experience and some guy who was really praying for like 3 hours...and your pseudo whisper is really annoying.

Nor do I need to know about a concert coming up that another couple are discussing. Likewise the guy whose normal voice is SHOUT as he asks the librarian if crime mysteries are in a separate section. The only crime is the volume of his voice and there is no mystery about it.

It sounds like the problem is the librarian not being strict about noise in the library.

Whenever I trained college student teachers when they spent 4-8 weeks doing their student teaching in my classroom, the FIRST thing I taught them was that if you were easy-going from the start, the teens would run all over you and not follow behavioral rules. You need to be a son of a bitch. a stickler for ALL of the rules set in place, for the first 3-4 weeks of each semester and THEN you can back off a little: the kids then have had structure impressed on them and following it becomes routine.  And the teachers who post 15 classroom rules on the wall are idiots: make it a small number of rules - no more than FIVE - or the structure gets too diluted and hard to remember.

Adults need structure enforced around them just like the teens do.

I've had administrators and board-of-ed people observe my teaching and later say, "You told them to break up into their lab groups and they all had done so and were preparing materials at their stations within a minute and you didn't have to say another word to them!"

THAT is what structure does: it sets an easily-followed routine.  Like silence in the library!

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7 minutes ago, MickinMD said:

It sounds like the problem is the librarian not being strict about noise in the library.

I think it remains a "what is the purpose of a library in 2020" sort of thing.  Is a library, in the modern era, still expected to be crypt-like? Or, with the advent of new tech and new needs, "quiet" is not only no longer necessary, but actually a hindrance to the modern library's functions????

I'm surprised @dennis has kept quiet on this thread.

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