The_Karen_Cooper_Incident Posted May 27, 2020 Share #1651 Posted May 27, 2020 21 minutes ago, Allen said: One of them told me I don’t believe in god because I wear a mask. I would have agreed with them. I don't believe in god. And I wear a mask. Mudkipz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted May 27, 2020 Share #1652 Posted May 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, The_Karen_Cooper_Incident said: I would have agreed with them. I don't believe in god. And I wear a mask. Mudkipz I might have given him a somewhat impolitic greeting as I went past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted May 27, 2020 Share #1653 Posted May 27, 2020 42 minutes ago, Allen said: One of the backwater evangelical churches has a group set up in front of the grocery store. One of them told me I don’t believe in god because I wear a mask. Pissed me off beyond belief. Interesting. Masks aren't to protect us, they are to protect others. Let's see, Who is it that told us to look out for others? I wonder if God lets them take the seatbelts out of their cars, smoke, jump out of planes without parachutes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted May 27, 2020 Share #1654 Posted May 27, 2020 First time in 124 years, the Cheyenne Frontier Days are canceled! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted May 27, 2020 Share #1655 Posted May 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, 12string said: Interesting. Masks aren't to protect us, they are to protect others. Let's see, Who is it that told us to look out for others? I wonder if God lets them take the seatbelts out of their cars, smoke, jump out of planes without parachutes..... Just those using god to obfuscate their failings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 27, 2020 Share #1656 Posted May 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Allen said: I might have given him a somewhat impolitic greeting as I went past. Numbah one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1657 Posted May 28, 2020 11 hours ago, MickinMD said: seasonality is likely to drastically cut cases What evidence do you see to support this claim? Are rates dropping or rising in areas like NM and AZ? Did Covid not run rampant in Austraila in their Summer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share #1658 Posted May 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Prophet Zacharia said: What evidence do you see to support this claim? Are rates dropping or rising in areas like NM and AZ? Did Covid not run rampant in Austraila in their Summer? Mick understandably is clinging to hope -- more so then others -- and justifiably so I suspect. He's on hard times right now. Maybe he's that way he is normally. A lot of people are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1659 Posted May 28, 2020 11 hours ago, Prophet Zacharia said: What evidence do you see to support this claim? Are rates dropping or rising in areas like NM and AZ? Did Covid not run rampant in Austraila in their Summer? Mickin is a doctor, and I think he might have something. I think that by looking at behaviors, it may (I said MAY) be safer in the summer. First, when people are together with others in a closed room, it is way worse than when they are dispersed as they would be outside. Secondly, I have seen the articles where is it said (by scientists, not politicians) that direct sunlight does kill floating viral particles. All or some, I can't remember. Anyway, wasn't that the basis for the president's simple-minded ideas about intense blasts of light killing the virus in people? Anyhow, even mask-wearing people will eventually congregate and touch things asymptomatic people will contaminate, best if it is dispersed and outdoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1660 Posted May 28, 2020 It will all be over soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1661 Posted May 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Anyway, wasn't that the basis for the president's simple-minded ideas about intense blasts of light killing the virus in people? I was thinking it was justification for a tanning bed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1662 Posted May 28, 2020 Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health: https://ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1663 Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, donkpow said: Center for Communicable Disease Dynamics, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health: https://ccdd.hsph.harvard.edu/will-covid-19-go-away-on-its-own-in-warmer-weather/ BOOO! Stop with the "experts" and the "science"!!!! Admit it - you are just scared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1664 Posted May 28, 2020 Executive order today in NY state: Businesses may legally require masks to be worn in those businesses and legally deny service to anyone not wearing masks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1665 Posted May 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Executive order today in NY state: Businesses may legally require masks to be worn in those businesses and legally deny service to anyone not wearing masks. Plain common sense. No shirt, no shoes, no mask, no DICE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1666 Posted May 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Executive order today in NY state: Businesses may legally require masks to be worn in those businesses and legally deny service to anyone not wearing masks. We've been that way for about a month now in MI. The only place I go that denies access is Menards. The LGS (Meijers) on Sunday was 95% masks. My other regular stop is a gas station convenience store in the morning for coffee and that appears to be hit or miss but they don't deny service - even though the sign on the door says a mask is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1667 Posted May 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kzoo said: gas station convenience store On a ride a couple weeks ago, I stopped in for a water fill up at a country store, and the sign said "10 customers max", but it would be pretty tough to gauge how many are in and out at one time, and the clerks - behind newly installed plexiglass - weren't inclined to check or enforce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Author Share #1668 Posted May 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Randomguy said: Mickin is a doctor, and I think he might have something. A PhD in what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1669 Posted May 28, 2020 They furloughing us 1 day a week for the next 20 weeks. I can get unemployment for the day I lose plus I am eligible for the $600/week unemployment subsidy. I'll be making more money working 4 days a week that I was working 5. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1670 Posted May 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, Mr. Grumpy said: They furloughing us 1 day a week for the next 20 weeks. I can get unemployment for the day I lose plus I am eligible for the $600/week unemployment subsidy. I'll be making more money working 4 days a week that I was working 5. WOOT WOOT! I'm not jealous, but I'm liking the way Mr Grumpy is about to become Daddy Warbucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1671 Posted May 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Razors Edge said: On a ride a couple weeks ago, I stopped in for a water fill up at a country store, and the sign said "10 customers max", but it would be pretty tough to gauge how many are in and out at one time, and the clerks - behind newly installed plexiglass - weren't inclined to check or enforce it. I was booted out of a Qdoba last week because I was number 6 in a 5 max store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1672 Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Kzoo said: I was booted out of a Qdoba last week because I was number 6 in a 5 max store. Uh, seems Qdoba - if they are following the rules - ought to consider not letting you in until there was room for you! WTF??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1673 Posted May 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Uh, seems Qdoba - if they are following the rules - ought to consider not letting you in until there was room for you! WTF??? I think there was a sign on the door that got misplaced. I was 5 steps in the door and the lady at the cash register asked me to wait outside. They were doing their job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1674 Posted May 28, 2020 45 minutes ago, Kzoo said: I was booted out of a Qdoba last week because I was number 6 in a 5 max store. Ace Hardware in Social Circle keeps a kid at the door with a clicker. They are the only store I’ve gone to that is doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1675 Posted May 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Allen said: Ace Hardware in Social Circle keeps a kid at the door with a clicker. They are the only store I’ve gone to that is doing that. My large supermarket does this and the lady with the clicker also prewashes the cart handles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1676 Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Allen said: Ace Hardware in Social Circle keeps a kid at the door with a clicker. They are the only store I’ve gone to that is doing that. I've seen a couple store with clicker people. The ones I saw have multiple entrances so I hope the peeps were on the same app. I saw them counting but I'm not sure they had accurate numbers. The traffic volume was pretty high every time I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1677 Posted May 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: My large supermarket does this and the lady with the clicker also prewashes the cart handles. One of our supermarkets taped off one of two entrances, for reasons I don’t understand. Still no masks on employees in either joint, so I’m shopping in Athens at Trader Joe’s. They have a clicker and masks. Food costs more and it takes a whole lot more gas, but psychologically the store feels that much cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1678 Posted May 28, 2020 37 minutes ago, Allen said: One of our supermarkets taped off one of two entrances, for reasons I don’t understand. Still no masks on employees in either joint, so I’m shopping in Athens at Trader Joe’s. They have a clicker and masks. Food costs more and it takes a whole lot more gas, but psychologically the store feels that much cleaner. Probably like mine, access through one door only so the count is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted May 28, 2020 Share #1679 Posted May 28, 2020 We’ve jumped up a lot. Up to 246 cases, forty or so in a week. And 79 cases in the nursing home. Hospitalizations have near doubled in a week too. 46. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share #1680 Posted May 29, 2020 10 hours ago, Allen said: We’ve jumped up a lot. Up to 246 cases, forty or so in a week. And 79 cases in the nursing home. Hospitalizations have near doubled in a week too. 46. Your state is one to watch. It's heading up -- but it's the exponential thing you want to avoid. And unfortunately I think that's going to be how it works out. I hope not but that's not how these things work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted May 29, 2020 Share #1681 Posted May 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Dottles said: Your state is one to watch. It's heading up -- but it's the exponential thing you want to avoid. And unfortunately I think that's going to be how it works out. I hope not but that's not how these things work. I’m worried about the hospital. We only have 77 beds total. More than half are civid patients now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted May 29, 2020 Share #1682 Posted May 29, 2020 I am really looking forward to new spikes and future lockdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 29, 2020 Author Share #1683 Posted May 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Allen said: I’m worried about the hospital. We only have 77 beds total. More than half are civid patients now. But what about there individual rights?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted May 29, 2020 Share #1684 Posted May 29, 2020 20 hours ago, Kzoo said: I've seen a couple store with clicker people. The ones I saw have multiple entrances so I hope the peeps were on the same app. I saw them counting but I'm not sure they had accurate numbers. The traffic volume was pretty high every time I saw it. Some stores are using the anti-shoplifting antennas reprogrammed to use the count of people coming and going to flash go/no go lights for traffic control 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted May 29, 2020 Share #1685 Posted May 29, 2020 We jumped up 15 cases today. 261 total. 60 in a week. 84 in the nursing home now, 12 deaths from there. They also opened up the parks to baseball today. No mention of limiting spectators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted May 29, 2020 Share #1686 Posted May 29, 2020 Today was the first day I could go and get a 'legal' haircut. The wait time for one place (looked on line) was almost 2 hours. I'm not going to wait for 2 hours. I guess I'll just skip it for a while more... My last hair cut was on 2/7. Our lock down started on 3/20. I was past due for a hair cut in early April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted May 30, 2020 Share #1687 Posted May 30, 2020 Our Walmart has people counting people in & out. A lot of people wearing masks around their chins. Work is cracking down, they gave a guy 3 days off for not wearing a mask. Made everyone sign a safety stand down that says masks will be worn at all times other than while eating and drinking. And stay 6 feet apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted May 30, 2020 Share #1688 Posted May 30, 2020 This proves you don't want to be old (or have 'other' conditions which seem to be more common when you are old) and get COVID 19. I used the IL COVID 19 data and some census data. The only thing I didn't look for was an estimate of the actual number of people that were/are infected. Confirmed cases is just the number people who got tested and were positive. How many were never tested and have/had the virus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted May 30, 2020 Share #1689 Posted May 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, Bikeguy said: This proves you don't want to be old (or have 'other' conditions which seem to be more common when you are old) and get COVID 19. I used the IL COVID 19 data and some census data. The only thing I didn't look for was an estimate of the actual number of people that were/are infected. Confirmed cases is just the number people who got tested and were positive. How many were never tested and have/had the virus? It looks like if a person doesn't know their age, there is no problem with the disease. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted May 30, 2020 Share #1690 Posted May 30, 2020 My mother is reporting 80% fatality at her care center for residents who contract the illness. Fortunately it’s only been 10 residents who have gotten ill. The staff who have gotten sick have recovered. They are still in the red phase of the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share #1691 Posted May 30, 2020 Sorry to hear/read. I hope people aren't so calloused. Those are our parents and grandparents in those nursing homes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted May 30, 2020 Share #1692 Posted May 30, 2020 35 minutes ago, Dottles said: Those are our parents and grandparents in those nursing homes. That's correct... I'm thinking the big problem is COVID-19 can be spread by asymptomatic individuals Our state locked down nursing homes, no visitors, since sometime in mid March. But that didn't stop the staff, nurses, doctors, delivery people, maintenance people, etc... from visiting. That combined with the population that all have underlying condition(s) (some may have more than 1 problem) is not good. It just seems like we got this so wrong... and many people died. Nursing Homes & Assisted Living Facilities Account for 42% of COVID-19 Deaths In the article with the link above, they have some suggestions in the text for another article (link here) about what could be done to help protect the most vulnerable people from COVID 19. Who knows.. if their ideas could work or not. We already know what doesn't work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share #1693 Posted May 30, 2020 My dad is in one of them (in an adult family home). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Silly Posted May 30, 2020 Share #1694 Posted May 30, 2020 It looks like the Supreme Court doesn't think the restrictions are unconstitutional. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share #1695 Posted May 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Mr. Grumpy said: It looks like the Supreme Court doesn't think the restrictions are unconstitutional. And that answers that unless folks clamoring for the constitution decide to reject the constitution because it's not their brand of constitution. I notice there isn't ONE word about it on Fox News. Shocker. Fair and balanced. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/05/30/supreme-court-wont-force-states-to-reopen-churches/#502a44957884 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted May 30, 2020 Share #1696 Posted May 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dottles said: Fair and balanced. They have no idea what that even means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share #1697 Posted May 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Randomguy said: They have no idea what that even means. Yes they do. It's been quite effective drawing in folks that lack critical thinking skills -- which means a lot of folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share #1698 Posted June 1, 2020 I can't just get the graph image -- which is a shame. But this link shows my county's new cases in a nice bar graph. It's looking real good actually. https://infogram.com/new-cases-1h706epndqpq45y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 1, 2020 Share #1699 Posted June 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Dottles said: I can't just get the graph image -- which is a shame. But this link shows my county's new cases in a nice bar graph. It's looking real good actually. https://infogram.com/new-cases-1h706epndqpq45y 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 1, 2020 Share #1700 Posted June 1, 2020 My feeling, with the graph above, is that it would be much more useful if each bar was two pieces - total new case tests that day and new cases that day. It would highlight either the growing testing with reduced "positive" cases, or highlight the lack of much testing (either by total count or by %positive/test). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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