Randomguy Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2301 Posted July 17, 2020 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2302 Posted July 17, 2020 We're #1! The USA crossed the 70,000 cases per day threshold for the 5 day moving average today: over 350,000 in the past 5 day! Can we get to 100,000? Many of America's leaders are trying! The Governor of Georgia just outlawed the mandatory wearing of masks for any county or city in the state. We should get a nice jump from Atlanta! With great leadership like that, 100,000 is definitely doable! Of course, our death rate is also rising but we're only in 2nd place, not growing it fast enough to catch Brazil, which has been showing the world how to deal with overpopulation better than us. My aunt died in April and my sister almost died twice. Call us unpatriotic, but our family is all for masks and social distancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupw Posted July 17, 2020 Share #2303 Posted July 17, 2020 I was at a client this afternoon doing a Windows upgrade. I had been talking to a new guy recently instead of Chuck. When I was there I saw a note to remove Chuck from a system. I turned to the guy in the shop and asked if Chuck retired. Nope. He passed away from Covid a couple months ago. The guy I was talking had to quarantine. Chuck wasn’t a buddy, but I trusted him enough to give him my work cell number. He and Cliff Claven would have hated each other because they were so much alike! RIP Chuck. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 18, 2020 Share #2304 Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, MickinMD said: We're #1! The USA crossed the 70,000 cases per day threshold for the 5 day moving average today: over 350,000 in the past 5 day! Can we get to 100,000? Many of America's leaders are trying! The Governor of Georgia just outlawed the mandatory wearing of masks for any county or city in the state. We should get a nice jump from Atlanta! With great leadership like that, 100,000 is definitely doable! Of course, our death rate is also rising but we're only in 2nd place, not growing it fast enough to catch Brazil, which has been showing the world how to deal with overpopulation better than us. My aunt died in April and my sister almost died twice. Call us unpatriotic, but our family is all for masks and social distancing. So we are way worse than _)*(&^ Brazil. Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2305 Posted July 19, 2020 They changed the scale of cases per 100,000 to keep the map blue and not red. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2306 Posted July 19, 2020 As compared to: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2307 Posted July 19, 2020 Just now, Allen said: As compared to: I gotta say, obviously the second one here shows the SPREAD more accurately and helpfully. However, the challenge I keep running into is that "red" is pretty much the 5-alarm value, and to use it when it might just be a one or three alarm situation is almost as dangerous as the first graph (underrepresenting the problem). I think more "neutral" gradients might be best in some graphs, but consistency is also key (unlike the first one where they screw with the groupings). Quintiles are nice, but it's also sometimes misrepresentative (and in your graph, I'm missing what defines quintile). Take an "honors" class in HS. If the each Chemistry class is divided up into students in quintiles, the bottom (lowest performing) quintile might still be a top student in the school, just not amongst the top of the top students. It's sort of where guidelines - set early and clearly - are really helpful. Similarly, something like the R number is a useful value. What is "bad", what is "good", and what is "Oh shit, RUN!"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2308 Posted July 19, 2020 Not to worry, the wisdom of the hoopleheads has got it all figured out. It's just a liberal plot to derail Trump's economic miracle, and will blow over right after the election. So just hang on a few more months and we'll be home free 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2309 Posted July 19, 2020 No bleach and dirty rags: How some janitors are asked to keep you virus-free The old job of custodians was tidying up. The new one is protecting against a killer through disinfection. As the coronavirus continues to rage and businesses and workplaces weigh the risks of reopening, janitors have a warning about the current state of cleaning in the United States. Many say they have not been given enough resources to fight the pathogen, or, in a few cases, even hot water to wash their hands. They are often not told if someone has tested positive where they are working, many said in interviews, making it difficult to protect themselves and others. Cleaners have recently fallen ill across the country, from the University of Texas at Austin, to a Fox Entertainment lot in Los Angeles, to casinos in Mississippi. Workers in office buildings and supermarkets say they lack the time and training to do the job right. And though airlines have tried to win back customers by raising sanitation standards, pilots, flight attendants and cabin cleaners report that the efforts are still inadequate, with reused rags, unwiped tray tables and bathrooms that aren’t disinfected between flights. Meanwhile, the task of protecting the American workplace has fallen to people on one of its bottom rungs. Many of the country’s more than two million custodians do their work at night, unseen, for minimum wage. They are often treated as a labor cost to be contracted out for the lowest possible price. Cleaning company executives and union officials say that standards have fallen in recent years as businesses have cut back on janitorial services. “For years the industry has been really working towards a minimum scope of work,” said Laurie Sewell, chief executive of Servicon, a commercial cleaning company with 1,600 workers. ‘Quick Turns’ To protect and lure back customers, airlines have raced to adopt new cleaning methods, often emphasizing overnight disinfection. Scientists consider a different task to be paramount. “The most important thing is to clean the airplane after each use,” said Dr. Qingyan Chen, an engineering professor at Purdue University who has led infectious disease research for the Federal Aviation Administration. But long before this crisis, many airlines outsourced their custodial jobs and minimized between-flight cleanings. The longer airplanes sit on the ground, the fewer flights made and tickets sold. So for decades, the job has usually been done by contract cleaners who dash onboard, dispose of trash, tackle obvious messes and disappear, aviation workers and union officials said. Now, most airlines are relying on those workers to prevent contagion. Standards are higher overall, and many planes seem more sanitary, according to cabin cleaners and other personnel. Delta, for example, said it was using electrostatic sprayers — which coat surfaces with disinfectant particles — before every flight. But workers from a number of airlines said that many between-flight cleanings were rushed and inconsistent. Pilots registered the same concerns in a union report last month. “The only part of the passenger seats that was wiped down was the seat itself,” one pilot wrote. “Not the area that passengers touch constantly, such as seatbelts, window shades, arm rest, etc. Also, the entire plane was supposedly wiped down in less than 10 minutes.” Last week, the Association of Flight Attendants began a survey to assess sanitation and other safety issues. Of the many hundreds who have responded so far, only 44 percent of flight attendants said their planes were thoroughly cleaned and disinfected between flights during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2310 Posted July 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, Further said: hoopleheads Is this from the slang term of West Virginians being called “hoopies”, or another source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2311 Posted July 19, 2020 This whole Covid-19 thing feels to me like a total government failure, just like 9-11 did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2312 Posted July 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Is this from the slang term of West Virginians being called “hoopies”, or another source? Deadwood (the series) used it repeatedly, and I love the word! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2313 Posted July 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Deadwood (the series) used it repeatedly, and I love the word! this 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2314 Posted July 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Deadwood (the series) used it repeatedly, and I love the word! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2315 Posted July 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Further said: Not to worry, the wisdom of the hoopleheads has got it all figured out. It's just a liberal plot to derail Trump's economic miracle, and will blow over right after the election. So just hang on a few more months and we'll be home free I actually had some one that I like make this comment to my face the other day. Luckily, I was able to keep my mouth shut, but was very disappointed. I've encountered others trying to justify group events, by saying that we are exposed everywhere, even going to the clinic. I certainly feel better about going to a clinic, where they screen you going in and restrict the number of patients, than a wedding reception where food is going to be served. Not sure how the food situation is going to be handled, but I am sure my wife will not attend. I'll probably also stay home. We are at mandatory masking in counties with at least 4 active cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2316 Posted July 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Wow - from that pic Deadwood reminds me of Rock Ridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2317 Posted July 19, 2020 44 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: This whole thing feels to me like a total government failure, just like 9-11 did. But this is seven consecutive months of 9-11, with no end in sight. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2318 Posted July 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: But this is seven consecutive months of 9-11, with no end in sight. The 9-11 failures took place a long time before the event - missing all the cues despite bazillions spent on intelligence. This one is much more visible, like watching sausage being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 19, 2020 Share #2319 Posted July 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Further said: this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 20, 2020 Share #2320 Posted July 20, 2020 Walton County Cases – 645 – That’s 43 more cases reported over Cases per 100,000 –673.2 Total deaths – 32 – that’s one more death reported over the weekend Hospitalized – 76 – that’s three more hospitalizations reported over the weekend Gwinnett County Cases – 13,444 – Cases per 100,000 – 1,384 Total deaths – 198 – that’s seven more death reported over the weekend Hospitalized – 1,537 – That is 70 more hospitalizations reported in the last 24 hours Georgia Confirmed cases – 143,123– that is 3,173 more cases reported in the past 24 hours ICU admissions – 2,822 – that’s 34 more reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalizations – 15,010 – That’s 49 more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Total deaths –3,173 – That is 5 more death reported in the past 24 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 20, 2020 Share #2321 Posted July 20, 2020 I have a friend who’s daughter is going back to Emory in three weeks. Idk why she’s do that, as all her courses will be online. Although I know it’s been hard on her, having to return home during her freshman year this past spring, and hard on her parents having her home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #2322 Posted July 21, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 8:28 AM, Allen said: Walton County Cases – 645 – That’s 43 more cases reported over Cases per 100,000 –673.2 Total deaths – 32 – that’s one more death reported over the weekend Hospitalized – 76 – that’s three more hospitalizations reported over the weekend Gwinnett County Cases – 13,444 – Cases per 100,000 – 1,384 Total deaths – 198 – that’s seven more death reported over the weekend Hospitalized – 1,537 – That is 70 more hospitalizations reported in the last 24 hours Georgia Confirmed cases – 143,123– that is 3,173 more cases reported in the past 24 hours ICU admissions – 2,822 – that’s 34 more reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalizations – 15,010 – That’s 49 more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Total deaths –3,173 – That is 5 more death reported in the past 24 hours How's that Georgian policy of 'ignoring it' working out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 21, 2020 Share #2323 Posted July 21, 2020 PA had 1,000 new cases today, Allegheny County 134. I found out today another coworker tested positive. I last saw her on Thursday, although we were both masked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share #2324 Posted July 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: PA had 1,000 new cases today, Allegheny County 134. I found out today another coworker tested positive. I last saw her on Thursday, although we were both masked. It's breaking out everywhere. Real estate agent is self quarantining and so is my HVAC guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted July 22, 2020 Share #2325 Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Dottles said: How's that Georgian policy of 'ignoring it' working out? We are doing more than ignoring it. We are actively denying it. Although I can once again shop at a local grocery. One of the two just the other day mandated masks for employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share #2326 Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 8:11 AM, Allen said: They changed the scale of cases per 100,000 to keep the map blue and not red. Shameful. Not illegal but shady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2327 Posted July 26, 2020 We’re back to 1,000 deaths per day as a country. My state just added 1,000 more positives to the infected ranks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend_Maynard Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2328 Posted July 26, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 8:52 PM, Dottles said: Shameful. Not illegal but shady. maybe done on purpose in the first place, but when you only have one shade of red, it becomes non-informative if the whole map is red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2329 Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reverend_Maynard said: maybe done on purpose in the first place, but when you only have one shade of red, it becomes non-informative if the whole map is red There's info in that too. Not pretty, but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2330 Posted July 26, 2020 While daily deaths in the USA are running as high as they were at the end of May, they're still "only" 40% of the peak. I wonder if that's a lot of the initial deaths occurred to people with health and age isasues? Here are the # of deaths and the % of cases that resulted in deaths in Maryland for older age groups through July 1 (roughly 3 1/4 months of serious deaths) and since July 1 (through July 26). The daily death rate in Maryland has fallen from around 50 to less than 10 and that's why the total deaths have dropped a lot, but that's not the key statistic here. The key is the percent of people in each age range that die if they catch COVID-19. I, 69 10/12 years-old, fit in the middle of the 60-79 range. The was about 1 chance in 10 of people in my age group dying through July 1, but about 1 in 16 now. That's surely because the of the non-survival of the weakest. So if we get whacked with COVID-19 this fall, I'm hoping it will be milder than April-May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2331 Posted July 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, MickinMD said: While daily deaths in the USA are running as high as they were at the end of May, they're still "only" 40% of the peak. I wonder if that's a lot of the initial deaths occurred to people with health and age isasues? Here are the # of deaths and the % of cases that resulted in deaths in Maryland for older age groups through July 1 (roughly 3 1/4 months of serious deaths) and since July 1 (through July 26). The daily death rate in Maryland has fallen from around 50 to less than 10 and that's why the total deaths have dropped a lot, but that's not the key statistic here. The key is the percent of people in each age range that die if they catch COVID-19. I, 69 10/12 years-old, fit in the middle of the 60-79 range. The was about 1 chance in 10 of people in my age group dying through July 1, but about 1 in 16 now. That's surely because the of the non-survival of the weakest. So if we get whacked with COVID-19 this fall, I'm hoping it will be milder than April-May. Doctors knowledge base has changed. Treatments are different based on what was learned back then. and the country is still suffering 1000 deaths a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share #2332 Posted July 26, 2020 I find it ironic some only focus on death. If you catch it, it can be crippling for the rest of your life. Yes many do make a full recoveries but many remain dehabilitated forever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2333 Posted July 26, 2020 31 minutes ago, Dottles said: I find it ironic some only focus on death. If you catch it, it can be crippling for the rest of your life. Yes many do make a full recoveries but many remain dehabilitated forever. Latest study shows that 40% of those that "recover" have some long term damage somewhere in their body. Sorry to hear that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2334 Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, maddmaxx said: Doctors knowledge base has changed. Treatments are different based on what was learned back then. and the country is still suffering 1000 deaths a day. And still a 3.9% death rate. I’m watching to Sunbelt like a hawk to see if we can maintain that as hospital volumes swell. Wear a mask. We were shocked how many people weren’t today. My work day life is mask all day, it shocks me still there are so many people who aren’t following this mandate/recommendation/whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 26, 2020 Author Share #2335 Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Prophet Zacharia said: And still a 3.9% death rate. I’m watching to Sunbelt like a hawk to see if we can maintain that as hospital volumes swell. Wear a mask. We were shocked how many people weren’t today. My work day life is mask all day, it shocks me still there are so many people who aren’t following this mandate/recommendation/whatever. Think of their rights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2336 Posted July 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Dottles said: Think of their rights! And yet they obey stoplights despite them limiting their right to just keep driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2337 Posted July 26, 2020 2 hours ago, maddmaxx said: Latest study shows that 40% of those that "recover" have some long term damage somewhere in their body. Sorry to hear that. Yeah, this seems like the elephant in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2338 Posted July 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, Philander Seabury said: Yeah, this seems like the elephant in the room. No, THAT’s not the elephant in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted July 26, 2020 Share #2339 Posted July 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Philander Seabury said: Yeah, this seems like the elephant in the room. And news today is about a young male nurse just out of school and on the job. He got the virus, put in his recovery time and all was well..........till a few weeks later when suddenly he's paralyzed from the neck down with complications from covid. It's not just your fathers disease anymore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted July 27, 2020 Share #2340 Posted July 27, 2020 They say stupid people are happier, but that isn't the case from my vantage point. These idiots in FL are another reason this isn't going away anytime soon: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share #2341 Posted July 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, Randomguy said: They say stupid people are happier, but that isn't the case from my vantage point. These idiots in FL are another reason this isn't going away anytime soon: I couldn't watch the whole thing. Honestly, all these folks need to just get covid and die. The sooner the better -- less chance I'll get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 27, 2020 Share #2342 Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Randomguy said: These idiots in FL Big article on DeSantis in the WaPo. His decision-making braintrust is himself, his wife and his Chief of staff. He meets with his top public health official, Scott Rivkees, only monthly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 27, 2020 Share #2343 Posted July 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Prophet Zacharia said: No, THAT’s not the elephant in the room. Then what is? Not following. Anti-maskers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted July 27, 2020 Share #2344 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Philander Seabury said: Then what is? Not following. Anti-maskers? That politics have derailed a public health crisis response. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted July 27, 2020 Share #2345 Posted July 27, 2020 46 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: That politics have derailed a public health crisis response. Too bad that SW couldn’t have kept politics oot of there too! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 27, 2020 Share #2346 Posted July 27, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 4:25 PM, Razors Edge said: Montana still looks fine. -from today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share #2347 Posted July 27, 2020 It's clear the decision has been made to just let covid run it's course through society. If you die, oh well. If you live through it, your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted July 27, 2020 Share #2348 Posted July 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dottles said: It's clear the decision has been made to just let covid run it's course through society. If you die, oh well. If you live through it, your problem. Tis but a scratch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share #2349 Posted July 27, 2020 Just WFH. Unless you're unemployed or broke then rob your neighbor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted July 27, 2020 Author Share #2350 Posted July 27, 2020 On 3/16/2020 at 2:07 PM, Allen said: Our courts just tabled all cases for a month. So was this the correct decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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