Allen ★ Posted June 19, 2020 Share #1951 Posted June 19, 2020 Walton County Cases –340 – That is five more cases in the past 24 hours Total deaths – 25 – that’s no more deaths reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 55 – that’s no more hospitalization in the past 24 hours Gwinnett County Cases – 5,753 – that’s 95 new cases reported in the past 24 hours Total deaths – 159 – that’s one more death reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 822 – That is six more hospitalizations reported in the last 24 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share #1952 Posted June 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Allen said: Walton County Cases –340 – That is five more cases in the past 24 hours Total deaths – 25 – that’s no more deaths reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 55 – that’s no more hospitalization in the past 24 hours Gwinnett County Cases – 5,753 – that’s 95 new cases reported in the past 24 hours Total deaths – 159 – that’s one more death reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 822 – That is six more hospitalizations reported in the last 24 hours It's a tinderbox. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 19, 2020 Share #1953 Posted June 19, 2020 I was thinking that it's like we're not even trying. But it's really turned into we're trying - to get everyone sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted June 19, 2020 Share #1954 Posted June 19, 2020 39 minutes ago, 12string said: I was thinking that it's like we're not even trying. But it's really turned into we're trying - to get everyone sick. Because we can't possibly infringe on anyone's right to not wear masks or distance? The USandA is a land of ignorant fuckers, moreso than most other developed countries. We have to face the fact that many/most in our country are pretty dim and selfish, or the other way around. When was the last time our country actually was great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 19, 2020 Share #1955 Posted June 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Randomguy said: The USandA is a land of ignorant fuckers, moreso than most other developed countries Speaking or trying, lately we've been working real hard at this reputation. (but otherwise we're still pretty great) Have you read The Greatest Generation? Excellent book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted June 20, 2020 Share #1956 Posted June 20, 2020 Clemson’s football team was hit hard today. 23 of them tested positive. https://www.11alive.com/article/sports/ncaa/ncaaf/clemson-sees-23-football-players-test-positive-for-covid-19/73-ced1bb15-4095-4be8-a354-977469668b17?fbclid=IwAR3iIzFTOzPIURVaONSRDmyaKQ3DFO1rgCbCiS4dtQualMUymH179I_aw6A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 21, 2020 Share #1957 Posted June 21, 2020 30,000 + new cases a day and a President who admitted to slowed down testing to keep numbers down. So we’re good? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted June 21, 2020 Share #1958 Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Prophet Zacharia said: 30,000 + new cases a day and a President who admitted to slowed down testing to keep numbers down. So we’re good? Of course! The ignorant states approve, good job, maga! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted June 21, 2020 Share #1959 Posted June 21, 2020 The recent numbers in Ontario, Alberta, etc. show that 60% of those with covid are younger 20'-40's. At a bakery cafe nearby, I'm flummoxed by the number of people sitting across the tables from one another. So everyone belongs each in a family? On Friday afternoon, there were 6 teen girls or were they college...I can't tell anymore since a lot of girls these days look bigger (meaning heavier, bigger,etc.) were all in diaphanous, prom long dresses and cleavage, going out to a bridge for their life milestone photos. For sure, they aren't 1 family. No way. Yet they would have had to come to the location by car or van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share #1960 Posted June 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, shootingstar said: ... blah... , I'm flummoxed... blah blah... This got my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 21, 2020 Share #1961 Posted June 21, 2020 It has been noted in the news that the current wave of increases includes a large percentage of younger people. It's reflected in the hospitalizations too. Leave it not be to me to point a finger at beaches and bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share #1962 Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, maddmaxx said: It has been noted in the news that the current wave of increases includes a large percentage of younger people. It's reflected in the hospitalizations too. Leave it not be to me to point a finger at beaches and bars. Well Jackson is middle ground. Establishments taking it serious, some patrons not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted June 21, 2020 Share #1963 Posted June 21, 2020 This is a new web site that my sister found. This is interesting.... https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/ And a different page on the web site. https://www.covidexitstrategy.org/cdc-gating-criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 21, 2020 Share #1964 Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, maddmaxx said: beaches I’m at a beach currently. 10’ minimum between umbrellas, as a rule. People are pretty respectful. Restaurants are seated every other table, or with big plexiglass partitions between the booths. But it’s probably one of the most family-focused beach towns that I know of in the mid-Atlantic, so probably one of the tamest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share #1965 Posted June 22, 2020 West Yellowstone, MT is not. Tourist town and I was the only one wearing a mask. Pub serving grub had almost zero social distancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share #1966 Posted June 22, 2020 Update on Wilson, Wyoming - - pretty darn good. 3 in 4 or 4 out of 5 in the stores were wearing them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Share #1967 Posted June 22, 2020 14 hours ago, Dottles said: West Yellowstone, MT is not. Tourist town and I was the only one wearing a mask. Pub serving grub had almost zero social distancing. You might just drop the West Yellowstone and say Montana. Wyoming folks are probably very concerned about the uptick in cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share #1968 Posted June 22, 2020 Wilson Stagecoach. Nice socially distanced tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share #1969 Posted June 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, sheep_herder said: You might just drop the West Yellowstone and say Montana. Wyoming folks are probably very concerned about the uptick in cases. The hair dresser agreed to see my wife in Jackson and she knew we were out of town from a metropolitan area. All masks. They no doubt want the business but I am impressed at their execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share #1970 Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, sheep_herder said: You might just drop the West Yellowstone and say Montana. Wyoming folks are probably very concerned about the uptick in cases. Montana should be paying attention to Yakima in lessons on what to do and bot do. Well they are starting to anyway. Basically masks. Serious shit going on over there. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/in-yakima-county-as-cases-soar-community-spread-increasingly-drives-the-pandemic/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Share #1971 Posted June 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dottles said: Montana should be paying attention to Yakima in lessons on what not to do. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/in-yakima-county-as-cases-soar-community-spread-increasingly-drives-the-pandemic/ At a 26% positive rate, that leads me to believe that there is a LOT more folks out in Yakima that are positive. Clearly, that county isn't testing very broadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share #1972 Posted June 22, 2020 They have almost the same number of infections as the whole state of Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Share #1973 Posted June 22, 2020 On 6/21/2020 at 2:45 PM, maddmaxx said: It has been noted in the news that the current wave of increases includes a large percentage of younger people. It's reflected in the hospitalizations too. Leave it not be to me to point a finger at beaches and bars. This is going to be one big chunk of any large increase. By canceling schools & going virtual, we effectively HALTED the spread via the younger folks out there (college and younger). Now, as summer opens up, parents loosen their rules, and young folks start socializing in HUGE numbers, they're gonna be a vector to watch. But hey, they have great immune systems, don't they Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Author Share #1974 Posted June 22, 2020 It should be noted Yakima is a Republican base and they have done nothing. It's not a problem if they ignore it. So clearly shutting everything down does not work and opening everything up does not work. We're screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Share #1975 Posted June 22, 2020 I’m getting state wide reports now from my local source. Walton County Cases –343 – That is three more cases in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 –358 Total deaths – 25 – that’s no more deaths reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 55 – that’s no more hospitalization in the past 24 hours Gwinnett County Cases – 5,958 – that’s 205 new cases reported in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 – 613.5 Total deaths – 161 – that’s two more deaths reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 838 – That is 16 more hospitalizations reported in the last 24 hours Georgia Confirmed cases – 62,009 – that is 1097 more cases reported in the past 24 hours ICU admissions – 2,122 – that’s 13 more reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalizations – 9,772 – That’s 109 more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Total deaths – 2,636 – That is 31 more deaths reported in the past 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted June 22, 2020 Share #1976 Posted June 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Razors Edge said: At a 26% positive rate That's insane. My first response would be to question the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 22, 2020 Share #1977 Posted June 22, 2020 Just now, Kzoo said: That's insane. My first response would be to question the data. Less testing = fewer overall positives (many remain undiscovered & spreading) but also higher positive rate. What I would want to see is the "number of unique individuals tested" go way up, tests per 100k go way up, and the "positives per test" go way down. If testing remains low, the testing only focuses on the same folks over and over (doctors, nurses, etc), and/or that positive rate doesn't come down to single digits, then there is a COVID and testing problem in a location. The numbers in Yakima are scary relative to the whole state, but maybe not versus a denser area like King County? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 22, 2020 Share #1978 Posted June 22, 2020 What worries me about positive percentages going up while testing is increasing, is that it's really a double hammy. When we were testing fewer people, we were waiting for symptoms to test. Now that anyone can get tested, not waiting til they think they have it, shouldn't the positive percentage be LOWER? There's something unaccounted for here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share #1979 Posted June 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Kzoo said: That's insane. My first response would be to question the data. Actually it's worse -- at least in the last week. And if you notice, most of it is falling on those <40.. Yakima has ignored most and they're paying the price now. I have to travel through that part of my state when I go home next Sunday and I can guarantee you I will not be stopping anywhere 200 miles from it. To be clear, this is a huge agricultural area and most of these folks getting it are migrants but the caucasians aren't far behind. https://www.yakimacounty.us/2404/Data-Summary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share #1980 Posted June 23, 2020 FYI: Pronounced Yah-Ki-MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1981 Posted June 23, 2020 13 hours ago, 12string said: a double hammy. If I’m going to splurge, I’ll go double pastrami. Looking at the national numbers, the death rate has hung at 5% despite an increase in testing. I find THAT to be particularly concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1982 Posted June 23, 2020 The current outbreaks can be traced back to Memorial Day according to experts. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/end-lockdown-memorial-day-add-increase-coronavirus-cases-experts-say-n1231802 Just wait.......there's more outbreaks coming. CT is forming a consortium with other surrounding states to possibly enforce an immigration ban on visitors from states where the numbers are climbing out of control. There will be a 14 day quarantine for those who wish to enter. So if you want to come to visit relatives or go to a wedding, plan on being here for at least 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottleshead ★ Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share #1983 Posted June 23, 2020 14 hours ago, 12string said: There's something unaccounted for here. I thought you knew that all numbers should be run by @Kzoo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1984 Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Dottles said: I thought you knew that all numbers should be run by @Kzoo. BMBM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1985 Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, maddmaxx said: There will be a 14 day quarantine for those who wish to enter. Florida still has a 14 day quarantine if you come from NY/NJ. I think something is backwards there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1986 Posted June 23, 2020 24 minutes ago, 12string said: Florida still has a 14 day quarantine if you come from NY/NJ. I think something is backwards there EXACTLY! How is that "open for business"????? Say RG wants to spend some of his $$$ in Orlando, how can a 14 day wait be considered "open"???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1987 Posted June 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Looking at the national numbers, the death rate has hung at 5% despite an increase in testing. I find THAT to be particularly concerning. To be clear the 5% number is infected mortality. A known case that dies. Increased testing will not change that anymore than increased testing will change hospitalizations. Here in Michigan the infected mortality rate is higher than the national average. It's 9%. Our general population mortality rate in Michigan is 0.06%. With the understanding that there are and were a vast number of unreported cases for a number of reasons, the infected mortality rates are much lower than reported. That doesn't change the number of deaths but all of these numbers are what epidemiologists need to know to do their jobs better. If the infected mortality rate is staying at 5% that means we are not figuring out better ways to keep infected people alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1988 Posted June 23, 2020 47 minutes ago, Kzoo said: If the infected mortality rate is staying at 5% that means we are not figuring out better ways to keep infected people alive. I see it as the virus is as deadly as feared. We’ve gotten better with our treatments, and our previous sequestration efforts kept it from being 7%, 9% or higher, but as tolerance for those wanes, the virus will match or overcome the advances in treatment that we heave made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1989 Posted June 23, 2020 Even a 0.06% 51 minutes ago, Kzoo said: To be clear the 5% number is infected mortality. A known case that dies. Increased testing will not change that anymore than increased testing will change hospitalizations. Here in Michigan the infected mortality rate is higher than the national average. It's 9%. Our general population mortality rate in Michigan is 0.06%. With the understanding that there are and were a vast number of unreported cases for a number of reasons, the infected mortality rates are much lower than reported. That doesn't change the number of deaths but all of these numbers are what epidemiologists need to know to do their jobs better. If the infected mortality rate is staying at 5% that means we are not figuring out better ways to keep infected people alive. Do you mean .0006 or .006? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1990 Posted June 23, 2020 Walton County Cases –346 – That two more cases in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 –361.1 Total deaths – 25 – that’s no more deaths reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 55 – that’s no more hospitalization in the past 24 hours There was one more death in the nursing home that was not tallied here. Gwinnett County Cases –6,507 6,151 – that’s 356 new cases reported in the past 24 hours Cases per 100,000 – 659.7 Total deaths – 162 – that’s no more deaths reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalized – 862 – That is 13 more hospitalizations reported in the last 24 hours Georgia Confirmed cases – 65,928 – that is 1,227 more cases reported in the past 24 hours ICU admissions – 2,155 2,144 – that’s 11 more reported in the past 24 hours Hospitalizations – 9953 – That’s 89 more hospitalizations reported in the past 24 hours Total deaths – 2,648 – That is five more deaths reported in the past 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1991 Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, maddmaxx said: Even a 0.06% Do you mean .0006 or .006? I think I mean 0.06% mortality of the population of the state as opposed to a national number of 0.037% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kzoo Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1992 Posted June 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Prophet Zacharia said: I see it as the virus is as deadly as feared. We’ve gotten better with our treatments, and our previous sequestration efforts kept it from being 7%, 9% or higher, but as tolerance for those wanes, the virus will match or overcome the advances in treatment that we heave made. I'm not sure what you mean by tolerance wanes for sequestration efforts. I have heard of only a couple nationally reported incidents where someone with a confirmed case of COVID-19 did not quarantine for the duration of their symptoms, plus. And as for the virus matching or overcoming treatment, there's no evidence of that that I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1993 Posted June 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Kzoo said: I'm not sure what you mean by tolerance wanes for sequestration efforts. I have heard of only a couple nationally reported incidents where someone with a confirmed case of COVID-19 did not quarantine for the duration of their symptoms, plus. And as for the virus matching or overcoming treatment, there's no evidence of that that I've heard. It means we, as a nation, have grown bored with social distancing efforts. And that the advances in medical treatment are only able to keep us in a status-quo arrangement with the death rates, even as more are tested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1994 Posted June 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Kzoo said: I have heard of only a couple nationally reported incidents where someone with a confirmed case of COVID-19 did not quarantine for the duration of their symptoms, plus. I don't think that means people aren't doing it. We just aren't hearing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 23, 2020 Share #1995 Posted June 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Kzoo said: I think I mean 0.06% mortality of the population of the state as opposed to a national number of 0.037% Then can we agree that 0.06% is the same as using a multiplier of .0006? If I multiply the population of the state by .0006 I should come up with the expected death total assuming that the current situation stays the same as it is now? Folks mix up decimals and percentages in the same number so often I have to check. We really are talking about 6 one hundredths of 1 percent here. That seems to be a very low number based on scientific expectations. I suspect that it only works because so many people there have yet to be infected and possibly die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Further Posted June 24, 2020 Share #1996 Posted June 24, 2020 I am hearing a lot of people say fuck it, if I get it I get it. They don't like the new normal and willing to opt out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted June 24, 2020 Share #1997 Posted June 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Further said: I am hearing a lot of people say fuck it, if I get it I get it. They don't like the new normal and willing to opt out. If there was any chance they could opt out of my world I'd say go for it. If you live you live. If not........fuck it. However the young who are immortal and who think they won't die from catching it will be bagging your groceries and serving your fries and maybe even teaching your children. But they probably will go nuts over someone who doesn't believe in vaccinations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted June 24, 2020 Share #1998 Posted June 24, 2020 I went to Harbor Freight the other day. Only me and one other customer was masked. The other 20 or so people present were not. This is why the recommendation that excludes the N-95 mask is inappropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Grass Posted June 24, 2020 Share #1999 Posted June 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, donkpow said: This is why the recommendation that excludes the N-95 mask is inappropriate. What do you mean by this? I ask because I have a N-95 mask that I use when a mask is called for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted June 24, 2020 Share #2000 Posted June 24, 2020 48 minutes ago, donkpow said: I went to Harbor Freight the other day. Only me and one other customer was masked. The other 20 or so people present were not. This is why the recommendation that excludes the N-95 mask is inappropriate. Or...a rule for ALL customers to cover their germ ridden mouths and noses???? Again, and this is being more and more brought to light, simple steps like 1) facial covering, 2) hand washing, and 3) social distancing ARE the 95% solution. Maybe the 99% solution. If ALL folks followed those simple rules, the mass spread is far less likely and when it occurs is far less severe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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