Wilbur ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #1 Posted April 4, 2020 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/covid-joseph-brant-blt-construction-pandemic-unit-1.5518090 Apparently the whole new wing of the hospital isn't enough space. They have built a 93 bed tent for CV-19 patient overflow. I do not want to die in a parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheep_herder ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #2 Posted April 4, 2020 Nope, not fussy at all. Just don't want to linger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #3 Posted April 4, 2020 In 1918 they had a higher survival rate with the patients out in the tents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted April 4, 2020 Share #4 Posted April 4, 2020 Estimates are that 50-80% of people going on ventilators are dying, anyway. So being inside the building may be a worse omen than the parking lot, where your chances are better (as you’ve not already been deemed critically ill). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onbike1939 Posted April 4, 2020 Share #5 Posted April 4, 2020 As long as it's not sitting on the toilet.......I wish to go with a little dignity. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #6 Posted April 4, 2020 Not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #7 Posted April 4, 2020 I don't care where I die unless it means I didn't have access to the care I needed to possibly recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrAzY Posted April 4, 2020 Share #8 Posted April 4, 2020 Nope.. don’t care where I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #9 Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, maddmaxx said: Not here. Yeah, same here. Somewhere else. Sadly, sorta conflicts with the idea of going peacefully in your sleep. I could do that while driving, but that would leave a mess! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #10 Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Longjohn said: In 1918 they had a higher survival rate with the patients out in the tents. I read that somewhere, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donkpow Posted April 4, 2020 Share #11 Posted April 4, 2020 The parking lot is okay with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #12 Posted April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Prophet Zacharia said: Estimates are that 50-80% of people going on ventilators are dying, anyway. So being inside the building may be a worse omen than the parking lot, where your chances are better (as you’ve not already been deemed critically ill). I don't want to die listening to a loud generator powering things. A regular camping tent would be nice to die in, unless a bear is attacking you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groupw Posted April 4, 2020 Share #13 Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, onbike1939 said: As long as it's not sitting on the toilet.......I wish to go with a little dignity. Are you saying you’re better than Elvis? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longjohn ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #14 Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, groupw said: Are you saying you’re better than Elvis? Elvis has all the donut shops with drive throughs programmed into his phone now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 4, 2020 Share #15 Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Longjohn said: In 1918 they had a higher survival rate with the patients out in the tents. Cause they could easily move them outside. They put patients in the sun for a while, daily. It's the fresh air and sunshine. 4 hours ago, Wilbur said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/covid-joseph-brant-blt-construction-pandemic-unit-1.5518090 Apparently the whole new wing of the hospital isn't enough space. They have built a 93 bed tent for CV-19 patient overflow. I do not want to die in a parking lot. You may fare better in the tents. It makes me sad that we have to prepare like this. Our hospital has some tents too and have converted large spaces for the overflow. My husband will be working the COVID unit soon. I am concerned and slightly scared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #16 Posted April 4, 2020 No, not in the parking lot. Not shivering under a space blanket on a cot. I was born at home I want to die here too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #17 Posted April 4, 2020 52 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Cause they could easily move them outside. They put patients in the sun for a while, daily. It's the fresh air and sunshine. You may fare better in the tents. It makes me sad that we have to prepare like this. Our hospital has some tents too and have converted large spaces for the overflow. My husband will be working the COVID unit soon. I am concerned and slightly scared. Can he ask to work in tent city? 48 minutes ago, Allen said: No, not in the parking lot. Not shivering under a space blanket on a cot. I was born at home I want to die here too. Home is a boring place to die. I would like to be in outer space or a cave or somesuch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #18 Posted April 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Home is a boring place to die. I would like to be in outer space or a cave or somesuch. Dying at home is free. The space blanket and cot in the parking lot are going to cost fifty grand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphie ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #19 Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Randomguy said: I read that somewhere, too! You totally redeemed yourself with your Nov. 30 1918 flu pandemic thread. So what the heck is the difference between a pandemic and an epidemic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizeye Posted April 4, 2020 Share #20 Posted April 4, 2020 It must be in a Ferrari doing 170 MPH on the streets in NYC chased by FY's finest. Well that won't happen, so guess I am stuck being immortal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #21 Posted April 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Wilbur said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/covid-joseph-brant-blt-construction-pandemic-unit-1.5518090 Apparently the whole new wing of the hospital isn't enough space. They have built a 93 bed tent for CV-19 patient overflow. I do not want to die in a parking lot. What's wrong with a parking lot? You are on a cycling forum so most here obviously don't have an issue with dying on a road, a parking lot isn't that much different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #22 Posted April 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: You totally redeemed yourself with your Nov. 30 1918 flu pandemic thread. So what the heck is the difference between a pandemic and an epidemic? A pandemic is when a bunch of panda's get sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share #23 Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Indy said: What's wrong with a parking lot? You are on a cycling forum so most here obviously don't have an issue with dying on a road, a parking lot isn't that much different. I don't care to die cycling either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted April 4, 2020 Share #24 Posted April 4, 2020 4 hours ago, onbike1939 said: As long as it's not sitting on the toilet.......I wish to go with a little dignity. That happens more often than you would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share #25 Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, Zephyr said: That happens more often than you would think. When I was flying Air Ambulance 30 years ago, it was 8 times per day in Vancouver alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikeguy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #26 Posted April 4, 2020 Since dementia has occurred in WoBG’s family and mine, and we live where you can die from hypothermia rather easy here in the middle of the winter. We figure we will just wander off in the winter, and die in the woods somewhere near our home. We both agreed that this would be much better than 8 or 9 years of a slow death. I don't want to die out on the roads riding my bike. Only 2 or 3 cars passed me yesterday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #27 Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Wilbur said: I don't care to die cycling either. I believe your odds of it are higher, though I am not up to date on the latest statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 4, 2020 Share #28 Posted April 4, 2020 48 minutes ago, Randomguy said: Can he ask to work in tent city? Home is a boring place to die. I would like to be in outer space or a cave or somesuch. They will be taking turns. Tent city isn't operating yet. They are preparing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 4, 2020 Share #29 Posted April 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Wilbur said: When I was flying Air Ambulance 30 years ago, it was 8 times per day in Vancouver alone. People pushing. Drink your water, people. Eat properly, avoid opiates. 2 minutes ago, Indy said: I believe your odds of it are higher, though I am not up to date on the latest statistics. Covid 19 will be the #1 killer unless we can turn this around. So sad about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #30 Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Covid 19 will be the #1 killer unless we can turn this around. So sad about that. NOT EVEN CLOSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 4, 2020 Share #31 Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, Indy said: NOT EVEN CLOSE Look at the numbers. 3rd leader in March, and that was as at bottom of ramp. April is going to be dreary and not just because of the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #32 Posted April 4, 2020 So even at three times deadlier than the flu, not even close to the top killer. It basically might make it close to accidents range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 4, 2020 Share #33 Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Indy said: So even at three times deadlier than the flu, not even close to the top killer. That is really old data. Look at the numbers once Covid reached our shores. Can't argue with someone who refuses to look at facts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #34 Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Dirtyhip said: That is really old data. Look at the numbers once Covid reached our shores. Can't argue with someone who refuses to look at facts. Nope, that's why I should log off because no matter what fucking fact and data I provide, you will choose to ignore it. Should we take this seriously, yes because there are at risk groups and it's important for them, but most people who get this will be FUCKING FINE!!!!!!!!!!!! All data projects a worst case of 3% for those infected and most who actually understand statistics think that number is still high because of the amount of people that has probably had it and had no symptoms or very mild. The numbers are still nothing to take as a joke, but at the same time, it's far from the fucking end of the world event some are acting like it is. The only reason we have to have lockdowns and so many fucking rules is because there are to many fucktards that can't use any common sense and act responsible by actually following social distancing rules and then they can become a carrier and accidentally infect someone in a high risk group. But yes, I'm the one that refuses to look at fucking facts, no matter how many I actually post and state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 4, 2020 Share #35 Posted April 4, 2020 I think 3% is hopeful. More like 10%, because of how ill prepared we are. Also, most Americans are very unhealthy. Many of are fat, and that is a co-morbitity. Also, we eat terrible and that prevents us from being healthy fighters when we become ill. You are so hostile and angry. There is no reason for that. I am merely stating what I see with us not slowing the spread and the numbers. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #36 Posted April 4, 2020 Indy why don't you go take a walk. You have polluted a couple threads with angry thoughts. Maybe seeing some birds outside or play with your super special kid will help w/perspective 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #37 Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Dirtyhip said: I think 3% is hopeful. More like 10%, because of how ill prepared we are. Also, most Americans are very unhealthy. Many of are fat, and that is a co-morbitity. Also, we eat terrible and that prevents us from being healthy fighters when we become ill. You are so hostile and angry. There is no reason for that. I am merely stating what I see with us not slowing the spread and the numbers. I'm trapped in my house, I'm being sued for $85k to $300k, and I actually provide statistics and information. Some of the info is easy to find other info I provide is based from actually talking to people who have inside information (experience pharmaceutical drug researchers and scientist, long time experienced statisticians) and I am constantly told I am wrong because people have a fucking feeling, or current because it is bad right now. Yes it's going to be bad in the short term because this virus moves fast and seems to hit at once, but the numbers still will be no where close to 10%. But yes, I have a lot of reason to be fucking mad. And I didn't sleep at all last night after getting an actual demand letter, even if it was all a complete fucking joke because all I could think about is what I wanted to do to two people and I can guarantee none of it was nice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #38 Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, Scrapr said: Indy why don't you go take a walk. You have polluted a couple threads with angry thoughts. Maybe seeing some birds outside or play with your super special kid will help w/perspective It's fucking raining, and I'd argue I'm the only with fucking perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted April 4, 2020 Share #39 Posted April 4, 2020 I would like to have my last days include a tv and these new hospital areas don't have tvs, so that would be a negative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #40 Posted April 4, 2020 I'm sorry. Sounds like you are under a lot of stress. Maybe a good meditation. I hate to do this. Try losing your everything. The center of your life, your hopes & dreams. Your entire future plans. That is a perspective not rooted in winning the internet. It's all just stuff man. Hug those around you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #41 Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kirby said: I would like to have my last days include a tv and these new hospital areas don't have tvs, so that would be a negative. would you be watching Family Feud? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #42 Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Scrapr said: I'm sorry. Sounds like you are under a lot of stress. Maybe a good meditation. I hate to do this. Try losing your everything. The center of your life, your hopes & dreams. Your entire future plans. That is a perspective not rooted in winning the internet. Based on everything I've read, the lawsuit has no real chance, but yes I am facing that. A quarter of million dollars means I have nothing, my kids have nothing, I'm out on the fucking street basically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #43 Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, RalphWaldoMooseworth said: You totally redeemed yourself with your Nov. 30 1918 flu pandemic thread. So what the heck is the difference between a pandemic and an epidemic? Aboot ten letters in the dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrapr ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #44 Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Indy said: Based on everything I've read, the lawsuit has no real chance, but yes I am facing that. A quarter of million dollars means I have nothing, my kids have nothing, I'm out on the fucking street basically. odds of that? ,.00001% Better call saul one of our drivers hit a cyclist. Lawsuit is for $650k. I haven't been paid in a year. I had to throw in $30k to the business last year. Now Covid might mean another $50-100k. ehh...it's only money 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 4, 2020 Share #45 Posted April 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, Indy said: It's fucking raining Welcome to Oregon. It's not so bad. Jacket, and hat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #46 Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, Scrapr said: odds of that? ,.00001% Better call saul Yes, but I never take someone threatening my family likely, and I don't think most would. But with poor weather, plus now on multiple weeks of lockdown, I come here for escape from what is going on with an attempt at some reasonable discussion and that is not possible because people only care about feeding their hysteria or trying push their political opinion behind a thin veil. At least I don't try to hide who am I, what you see is what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #47 Posted April 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dirtyhip said: Welcome to Oregon. It's not so bad. Jacket, and hat. I don't believe that, I've been to Oregon several times and it's always been sunny and beautiful the entire time I've been there. Just absolutely perfect weather everytime, now Arizona, that is a wet rainy mess from my experience. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtyhip Posted April 4, 2020 Share #48 Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Indy said: I don't believe that, I've been to Oregon several times and it's always been sunny and beautiful the entire time I've been there. Just absolutely perfect weather everytime, now Arizona, that is a wet rainy mess from my experience. Sounds like some of my exoensive ski vacations. No snow or crappy rain. I had an epic time once, in Canada. Hip deep fresh power. I want a rewind to that day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted April 4, 2020 Share #49 Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Dirtyhip said: Sounds like some of my exoensive ski vacations. No snow or crappy rain. I had an epic time once, in Canada. Hip deep fresh power. I want a rewind to that day. I don't want to rewind, that means 2020 is in the future and I want this year over. For me, it's literally has become a case of what is going to go fucking wrong next now and I am just about at the breaking point. Only good thing, I don't have to worry about starving as I have access to multiple freezer full, of course I don't want to do that for fear of making my parents sick and losing them, couldn't live with myself if I was the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinneR ★ Posted April 4, 2020 Share #50 Posted April 4, 2020 I don't care where I die. Sitting on the couch with a beer in my hand and Johnny Cash on the turntable would work just fine. It has snowed every day this week here. Twice I have gone for a road ride and been caught in the snow with temps below 20F. Today looks good. Listen up people. Scrapr is the voice of reason. Pedal further. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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