Popular Post Zephyr Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share #1 Posted April 6, 2020 The herring that is. Took Pico for a short noon day walk and turns out the herring are spawning near our local park. The herring are getting lucky, the seagulls and sealions are getting their bellies filled 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 6, 2020 Share #2 Posted April 6, 2020 mmmmm smoked herring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airehead Posted April 6, 2020 Share #3 Posted April 6, 2020 Very cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted April 7, 2020 Share #4 Posted April 7, 2020 I was watching a documentary yesterday where they said the Europeans arriving in the century or so after Columbus were amazed with the huge numbers of game, forests, fish, etc. and described millions of herring being caught, salted and shipped to Europe from one small location each year. I also didn't realize that Columbus brought 8 pigs on his second voyage that escaped and, within the next 100 years the Americas were overrun with wild boars - the pigs reverting to their wild state - which destroyed the planted crops of many native villages who didn't know what to do about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur ★ Posted April 7, 2020 Share #5 Posted April 7, 2020 19 hours ago, Zephyr said: The herring that is. Took Pico for a short noon day walk and turns out the herring are spawning near our local park. The herring are getting lucky, the seagulls and sealions are getting their bellies filled You lucky barstid! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 7, 2020 Share #6 Posted April 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, MickinMD said: I also didn't realize that Columbus brought 8 pigs on his second voyage that escaped and, within the next 100 years the Americas were overrun with wild boars - the pigs reverting to their wild state - which destroyed the planted crops of many native villages who didn't know what to do about them. Or was it De Soto? Didn't some voyagers carry pigs to drop off on various islands along the route so they (or others) could have them the next time they came through? At Queen Isabella's insistence, Christopher Columbus took eight pigs on his voyage to Cuba (or perhaps the West Indies) in 1493. They were tough and could survive the voyage with minimal care, they supplied an emergency food source if needed, and those that escaped provided meat for hunting on return trips. But Hernando de Soto was the true "father of the American pork industry." He brought America's first 13 pigs to Tampa Bay, Fla., in 1539. As the herds grew, explorers used the pigs not only for eating as fresh meat but for salt pork and preserved pork. American Indians were reportedly so fond of the taste of pork that attacks to acquire it resulted in some of the worst assaults on the expedition. By the time de Soto died three years later, his original herd of 13 pigs had grown to 700 – a very conservative estimate. This number doesn't include the pigs eaten by his troops, those that escaped and became wild pigs (the ancestors of today's feral pigs), and those given to the American Indians to keep the peace. The pork industry in America had begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickinMD ★ Posted April 7, 2020 Share #7 Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Razors Edge said: Or was it De Soto? Didn't some voyagers carry pigs to drop off on various islands along the route so they (or others) could have them the next time they came through? At Queen Isabella's insistence, Christopher Columbus took eight pigs on his voyage to Cuba (or perhaps the West Indies) in 1493. They were tough and could survive the voyage with minimal care, they supplied an emergency food source if needed, and those that escaped provided meat for hunting on return trips. But Hernando de Soto was the true "father of the American pork industry." He brought America's first 13 pigs to Tampa Bay, Fla., in 1539. As the herds grew, explorers used the pigs not only for eating as fresh meat but for salt pork and preserved pork. American Indians were reportedly so fond of the taste of pork that attacks to acquire it resulted in some of the worst assaults on the expedition. By the time de Soto died three years later, his original herd of 13 pigs had grown to 700 – a very conservative estimate. This number doesn't include the pigs eaten by his troops, those that escaped and became wild pigs (the ancestors of today's feral pigs), and those given to the American Indians to keep the peace. The pork industry in America had begun. You're probably right. The documentary just mentioned Columbus but it surely left out others who brought pigs. horses, cattle, etc. to the New World. DNA indicates that chickens first got to the Americas from Polynesia - I'd like to see a documentary about Polynesians in the Americas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 7, 2020 Share #8 Posted April 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, MickinMD said: You're probably right. The documentary just mentioned Columbus but it surely left out others who brought pigs. horses, cattle, etc. to the New World. DNA indicates that chickens first got to the Americas from Polynesia - I'd like to see a documentary about Polynesians in the Americas. Did Columbus even step foot on the mainland? I don't think he did, but so much myth around it, that I am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisL Posted April 7, 2020 Share #9 Posted April 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: Did Columbus even step foot on the mainland? I don't think he did, but so much myth around it, that I am not sure. It’s been a minute but didn’t he land on what is now The Dominican Republic? Not sure about the other trips. The yellow mustard that is abundant in SoCal is a remnant of the Spanish Missionaries who brought it with them to feed their horses. The horses probably crapped out seeds and a couple of hundred years later it’s all over the place from Baja to NorCal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 7, 2020 Share #10 Posted April 7, 2020 Much of Florida was "discovered" by Ponce de Leon on a later voyage than Columbus. There is a statue in his honor in downtown St. Augustine near the end of the Bridge of Lions. A couple of buildings north of there is Harry's Seafood Bar and Grill, a great place for a relaxing and spicy lunch or dinner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted April 7, 2020 Share #11 Posted April 7, 2020 I still can't see the herrings in those pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted April 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, 12string said: I still can't see the herrings in those pictures. They are hidden by all the herring smegley they are swimming around in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12string Posted April 7, 2020 Share #13 Posted April 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Zephyr said: They are hidden by all the herring smegley they are swimming around in See, this is why I don't eat shellfish. It's bad enough eating things that swim in their own toilets, but eventually that all falls to the bottom and guess who eats it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, 12string said: See, this is why I don't eat shellfish. It's bad enough eating things that swim in their own toilets, but eventually that all falls to the bottom and guess who eats it? Lobsters are the cockroaches of the sea..., but they are so yummy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prophet Zacharia Posted April 7, 2020 Share #15 Posted April 7, 2020 I thought this was about @Allen’s pond. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddmaxx ★ Posted April 7, 2020 Share #16 Posted April 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, Zephyr said: Lobsters are the cockroaches of the sea..., but they are so yummy! How about flounder, the roomba of the sea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 7, 2020 Share #17 Posted April 7, 2020 23 hours ago, Zephyr said: Took Pico for a short noon day walk FTR, this thread should have been all about Pico. What gives???? Where is Pico? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randomguy Posted April 7, 2020 Share #18 Posted April 7, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share #19 Posted April 7, 2020 46 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: FTR, this thread should have been all about Pico. What gives???? Where is Pico? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share #20 Posted April 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: FTR, this thread should have been all about Pico. What gives???? Where is Pico? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razors Edge ★ Posted April 7, 2020 Share #21 Posted April 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Zephyr said: So, Pico is a bit of a badass? Looks tough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share #22 Posted April 7, 2020 56 minutes ago, Razors Edge said: FTR, this thread should have been all about Pico. What gives???? Where is Pico? She is a total softie....., she is working hard here trying to stay on her feet.(Note how her feet are splayed and her tail is tucked. This is her now...... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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